R* Decisions You Couldn't Understand

[PkUnzipper]

1st world problems of a career criminal living the thug lyfe in LS GTAV streets:

 

* What's the point of the Gun Van when you've got Ammunation/your Agency/MOC/Avenger/Terrabyte/Aracade etc. etc.  for all your questionably legal WMD 2nd Amendment rights?

*  It's illegal for Ammunation to sell booze, but you can always find some trippy hallucinogenic drugs on some corner X and Y anywhere in LS.  So Ammunation NPCs won't sell you booze but they have those damned six packs right there at the door. So can't get drunk and celebrate your 2A rights robbing the same store. WTF man 

Edited April 8, 2023 by PkUnzipper

[PkUnzipper]

3 hours ago, Reathyr said:

It basically took just 4 years between the launch of GTAIV and the launch of GTAV to make GTAV, and build all of southern San Andreas with Los Santos, it's been 10 years of GTAV/Online, there are still no official images or trailers of GTAVI, no official release date, it's probably still a few years away.
But in those 10 years the only map expansion we got for GTAV/Online is tiny Cayo Perico which is no bigger then the peninsula that LSIA sits on, and we can only visit during a heist, I feel like in that time they could have easily made northern San Andreas with San Fierro in that time for us to do crime in, roam around in, do heists, buy property, continue stories, etc, etc., just to breathe new life into the map, heck they could have easily made eastern San Andreas or what ever GTA equivalent of Nevada it exists in, with Las Venturas as well, but all we've gotten to date, is Cayo Perico, and that will be the biggest Rockstar decision I'll never understand

 

1. It basically took TEN YEARS of GTAV/Online still running and SF is STILL A f*ckING ISLAND CONTINENT to date. With BOTH it's canon 100% immaginary San Fierro & Las Venturas land masses still existing in plain sight.  And ZERO f*ckING explanation from R* explaining the lore perspective of WHY THE f*ck these 2 huge land masses have remained missing from GTAV universe to date.  #YouCantMakeThissh*tUp

 

2. Then there was the Titty Two/fan boi PR fallout over the VC mod in the GTAO engine. Modder got his teeth kicked in because his mod would compromise Titty Two's forecasted multi million dollar cash flow streams with DE. That same Deus Excrement that was going to revive/reboot fan boi nostalgia with the 3 best f*cking single player classics of the franchise--which literally put R* on the industry map. Don't get me started over that particular sh*t show.

 

3. It also basically took Titty Two nothing to bully, rape kit duck tape, and muzzle the OpenIV modding team from releasing their professionally made fan base DLC on LC (SEE f*ckING VID BELOW). The alleged excuse we got was R* was restricting that area of the map for future dev projects. And quite coincidentally, we suddenly got CP as a result...  

 

Oh man. How many fan bois forgot about this insane trailer?? I'm willing to bet the cart came before the donkey's Shark Card a$s on this particular PR sh*t storm. I bet the instant the Titty Two execs saw this amazing trailer --- showcasing the TRUE potential of what could be done with the under utilized, MVP GTAV map ---they sh*t themselves.  And rushed off to tell R* they HAD to put out a DLC to surpass that. So we ended up getting CP. The Cancerous Pussy DLC with it's stupid NPC body detect with zero player ability to hide NPC bodies game mechanic. Which now screws solo players because it makes it 99% near impossible for any stealth gameplay in this mindless DLC. 

And let's not forget the completely INDESTRUCTIBLE BUSHES that came with this DLC, despite R* original marketing of GTAV map being a "dynamically evolving, destructible world environment".  Had Titty Two not been so god damned greedy, GTAO would've had a LOT more players still actively playing the game to date: 

 

 

Edited April 7, 2023 by PkUnzipper
Because I STILL f*cking CAN so stop asking why

[PkUnzipper]

Wonder how long it's going to take the Titty Two non STEM degree execs to put 2 and 2 together? aka literally figure this out by connecting the dots  after watching this video? Then move to ban this ingenious work around development by the OpenIV team? 

 

[Guest]

(sorry for the bump)

 

Don't you just love how... "exceptional" R*'s mission design logic is...

 

First off, in vanilla IV there's this fully functional ladder around the back of the Libertonian:

 

 

You can climb it all the way up to the exact platform where Luis ruins the infamous diamond deal from:

 

 

And as expected, it's present in TLAD too. Before TBOGT was released, one could use this ladder (and the fact that Luis also shows up on the roof of the museum during TLAD's credits) to speculate about Luis' perspective on the deal:

 

 

But of course, when people bashed the game because "tOo rEaLiStIc", R* felt landing a whole (and GOLD-PLATED) attack chopper on the roof was more stealthy than JUST SIMPLY TAKING THE GOD-DAMNED LADDER LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, so they removed it like it was a major threat to the mission's design:

 

 

Now here's my theory: During TLAD's credits, we see Luis heading UP to the roof of the museum, where no helicopters can be seen, and shooting down into the museum through one of the skylights.
Maybe R* planned for Luis to just sneak in quietly on foot through the conveniently-placed ladder seen in IV and TLAD, so he would shoot through that window, climb up to the roof and then use a second ladder to descend down into the museum from the skylight to reach Issac with the diamonds.
I guess the developers thought there wasn't "meat" to this mission through this approach, so they picked the SA route (as if that made sense, lol).

Edited September 1, 2023 by H-G

[universetwisters]

Why they couldn't let us date Alejandra in IV.

 

 

They would've been PERFECT together!!!

 

[Carbonox]

I just noticed today that in GTA III's "Deal Steal", you're supposed to honk the horn to initiate the deal, but the Yardie Lobo you're supposed to use literally doesn't have one, as it's overridden by the hydraulic controls. The mission scripts are unaffected, but it's a bit goofy how you end up signaling them by activating the suspension.

[Pistol Bobcat]

On 9/1/2023 at 5:01 PM, H-G said:

Now here's my theory: During TLAD's credits, we see Luis heading UP to the roof of the museum, where no helicopters can be seen, and shooting down into the museum through one of the skylights.
Maybe R* planned for Luis to just sneak in quietly on foot through the conveniently-placed ladder seen in IV and TLAD, so he would shoot through that window, climb up to the roof and then use a second ladder to descend down into the museum from the skylight to reach Issac with the diamonds.
I guess the developers thought there wasn't "meat" to this mission through this approach, so they picked the SA route (as if that made sense, lol).

 

This! Some of the crossover misisons in TBOGT felt so damn lazily put together but this one takes the cake! Luis climbing inside through the skylight and then having to fight his way downstairs through mobsters would've been much more fitting with the trinity than a helicopter gunfight that feels so far removed from the plot, also the Museum being full of cops when there was no cops in the original missions, what the f*ck rockstar?

 

Ladies Half Price was a letdown too (having to shoot some generic goon off the boat and a cutscene that out's of sync with the original), pre release I always assumed Tony and Luis got into some seperate chase/firefight with Bulgarin's men, honestly the chosen location for this exchange kinda limited the potential of this crossover.

Edited September 4, 2023 by Pistol Bobcat

[Silver]

On 9/1/2023 at 6:01 PM, H-G said:

Now here's my theory: During TLAD's credits, we see Luis heading UP to the roof of the museum, where no helicopters can be seen, and shooting down into the museum through one of the skylights.

Maybe R* planned for Luis to just sneak in quietly on foot through the conveniently-placed ladder seen in IV and TLAD, so he would shoot through that window, climb up to the roof and then use a second ladder to descend down into the museum from the skylight to reach Issac with the diamonds.
I guess the developers thought there wasn't "meat" to this mission through this approach, so they picked the SA route (as if that made sense, lol).

It doesn't make much sense that's for sure, especially since landing the Buzzard on the roof of the museum is the opposite of sneaky (how did they not hear him land the damn thing?).

 

The only thing that wouldn't make much sense in my opinion is that Luis would go up on the roof only to get inside the museum from the skylight when the window he used to disrupt the deal is large enough for him to fit through. It'd be a bit redundant I think and I doubt Isaac would be waiting under that table forever. It'd make much more sense for Luis to disrupt the deal and drop down from the window, like he does in the game, except this time Isaac would use the ladder from the skylight in an attempt to escape. Luis would chase Isaac on the roof, knock him out, and get down from the same scaffolding he used to reach the window, throw in some mobsters on the roof and on the ground for some extra challenge and you get something that works. It wouldn't be as exciting as escaping with the Buzzard and fighting a bunch of police helicopters above the city but it'd make much more sense.

 

As an aside, how lucky is Luis to find the only window that can be accessed and happens to oversee the entire deal? He truly got the diamonds on a silver platter.

 

5 hours ago, Pistol Bobcat said:

and a cutscene that out's of sync with the original)

Now that's the thing that annoys me the most about this mission, I like when cutscenes viewed from different perspectives are perfectly in sync.

 

I don't really mind coming in and escaping via a boat, but the mission does feel a bit lacking all things considered. It's like R* didn't really know what to do with Tony & Luis' perspective and they just decided to have them escape on boat with no real repercussion or challenge whatsoever. You come in, watch a cutscene, and go back to the same pier you came from, that's basically all you do.

It'd be more interesting to have other boats coming after you, with Tony driving the boat instead—recklessly too because of the pills he took—and you having to not only deal with Bulgarin's men but also Gracie's constant bickering, something to that effect. It'd be good opportunity to have some fun dialogue between the three as well.

[MrBreak16]

In GTAIV, Rockstar should have sticked with "Statue of Freedom" instead of "Statue of Hapiness." Not only does it sounds lamer, it would also make more sense for it to be called Statue of Freedom given that these games make fun of Americans for valuating Freedom so much.

[Silver]

8 hours ago, MrBreak16 said:

In GTAIV, Rockstar should have sticked with "Statue of Freedom" instead of "Statue of Hapiness." Not only does it sounds lamer, it would also make more sense for it to be called Statue of Freedom given that these games make fun of Americans for valuating Freedom so much.

Interestingly enough, Brucie calls it the Statue of Freedom in one of his boating activities but the subtitles still say Happiness.

[Pistol Bobcat]

Having Ned Luke record lines for Red Dead 2 and then cutting them, would've been a nice touch to hear Michael as an NPC

[DUNK512]

On 9/1/2023 at 7:01 PM, H-G said:

(sorry for the bump)

 

Don't you just love how... "exceptional" R*'s mission design logic is...

 

First off, in vanilla IV there's this fully functional ladder around the back of the Libertonian:

 

 

You can climb it all the way up to the exact platform where Luis ruins the infamous diamond deal from:

 

 

And as expected, it's present in TLAD too. Before TBOGT was released, one could use this ladder (and the fact that Luis also shows up on the roof of the museum during TLAD's credits) to speculate about Luis' perspective on the deal:

 

 

But of course, when people bashed the game because "tOo rEaLiStIc", R* felt landing a whole (and GOLD-PLATED) attack chopper on the roof was more stealthy than JUST SIMPLY TAKING THE GOD-DAMNED LADDER LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, so they removed it like it was a major threat to the mission's design:

 

 

Now here's my theory: During TLAD's credits, we see Luis heading UP to the roof of the museum, where no helicopters can be seen, and shooting down into the museum through one of the skylights.
Maybe R* planned for Luis to just sneak in quietly on foot through the conveniently-placed ladder seen in IV and TLAD, so he would shoot through that window, climb up to the roof and then use a second ladder to descend down into the museum from the skylight to reach Issac with the diamonds.
I guess the developers thought there wasn't "meat" to this mission through this approach, so they picked the SA route (as if that made sense, lol).

R* made the right choice for TBOGT.

[MrBreak16]

On 9/2/2023 at 12:01 AM, H-G said:

(sorry for the bump)

 

Don't you just love how... "exceptional" R*'s mission design logic is...

 

First off, in vanilla IV there's this fully functional ladder around the back of the Libertonian:

 

 

You can climb it all the way up to the exact platform where Luis ruins the infamous diamond deal from:

 

 

And as expected, it's present in TLAD too. Before TBOGT was released, one could use this ladder (and the fact that Luis also shows up on the roof of the museum during TLAD's credits) to speculate about Luis' perspective on the deal:

 

 

But of course, when people bashed the game because "tOo rEaLiStIc", R* felt landing a whole (and GOLD-PLATED) attack chopper on the roof was more stealthy than JUST SIMPLY TAKING THE GOD-DAMNED LADDER LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, so they removed it like it was a major threat to the mission's design:

 

 

Now here's my theory: During TLAD's credits, we see Luis heading UP to the roof of the museum, where no helicopters can be seen, and shooting down into the museum through one of the skylights.
Maybe R* planned for Luis to just sneak in quietly on foot through the conveniently-placed ladder seen in IV and TLAD, so he would shoot through that window, climb up to the roof and then use a second ladder to descend down into the museum from the skylight to reach Issac with the diamonds.
I guess the developers thought there wasn't "meat" to this mission through this approach, so they picked the SA route (as if that made sense, lol).

And I thought my computer was bad at running this game

[Emmi]

Why they changed John's appearance between the story of RDR2 and the Epilogue + post-game.

[A Munna]

Why they made Chinatown Wars a top down game instead of 3D like LCS and VCS 

[NightmanCometh96]

20 minutes ago, A Munna said:

Why they made Chinatown Wars a top down game instead of 3D like LCS and VCS 

It's almost certainly due to the hardware limitations of the DS, the system it was originally released on. I imagine R* also wanted to try something different for a title made for a (Nintendo) handheld that wasn't as powerful as the PSP. 

It is possible to enable a 3D camera in the PSP version through hacking and/or emulators. But it's obvious that the game was never designed with this perspective in mind, because everything breaks. (Huang and all pedestrians are made up of several 2D sprites, while vehicles and the environment itself are 3D models; additionally, there's not a proper skybox present, and the draw-distance is quite low.)

 

Edited March 1, 2024 by NightmanCometh96

[Pistol Bobcat]

Insisting on keeping Arthur Morgan out of New Austin

 

John going there makes little sense as he acts like a stranger to it in the first game but there's there no reason Arthur shouldn't be allowed to creep past the Pinkertons in Blackwater and have fun exploring the desert and finishing side quests to earn the well deserved Legend of the East outfit. Finally, Armadillo should be back to normal during the epilogue and a plague town during Arthur's story.

 

Heck I only recently discovered unused voice lines, like Sheriff Freeman acknowledging a wanted man like Arthur in his town.

Edited March 2, 2024 by Pistol Bobcat

[Kalashnikov1947]

Lack of custom radio on console for HD universe games. Saints Row 1 being an Xbox 360 exclusive and having a custom radio feature proves it's not impossible.

Edited March 13, 2024 by Panzermann11

[lol232]

On 9/1/2023 at 6:01 PM, H-G said:

Now here's my theory: During TLAD's credits, we see Luis heading UP to the roof of the museum, where no helicopters can be seen, and shooting down into the museum through one of the skylights.
Maybe R* planned for Luis to just sneak in quietly on foot through the conveniently-placed ladder seen in IV and TLAD, so he would shoot through that window, climb up to the roof and then use a second ladder to descend down into the museum from the skylight to reach Issac with the diamonds.
I guess the developers thought there wasn't "meat" to this mission through this approach, so they picked the SA route (as if that made sense, lol).

Great observation. Yeah, there wasn't probably much going on with this approach. Luis gets in shoots f*ckers, gets out, leaves. 

 

You know what is COMPLETELY retarded too? WHY did R* make the guys Niko/Johnny fight in the museum COPS and not just MOBSTERS like in their perspective? What was the f*cking point, why f*ck with continuity?!?!?!

 

I know they did it because they needed to justify why cops chase you in the the helicopter escape/shootout, but that just makes it dumber. They could have still just made it so cops chase after you for landing on the museum and that would have been enough. A stealth approach like you mentioned was perfectly fine, Luis gets in, gets the diamonds, gets out, needs to deal with the mobsters or escape, meets up with Tone, done - not every mission needed to be fancy. The whole "gold chopper" was meh, and it would have been cooler if we saw the gold chopper for the first time in the final mission.

 

The f*cking with the continuity was pointless. As was changing the TBOGT intro cutscene so that only Packie shoots the "hero".

Edited November 29, 2024 by lol232

[MrBreak16]

Why did Rockstar make the Dominator GT are convertible without making a hardtop version. The Vigero ZX has a regular hardtop version and a separate convertible version (Vigero ZX Convertible). Same thing for many other convertible cars, so why couldn’t they do the same thing with the Dominator GT and make a separate Dominator GT Convertible? It’s dumb.

[JetNormalGuy]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:54 PM, Pistol Bobcat said:

Insisting on keeping Arthur Morgan out of New Austin

 

John going there makes little sense as he acts like a stranger to it in the first game but there's there no reason Arthur shouldn't be allowed to creep past the Pinkertons in Blackwater and have fun exploring the desert and finishing side quests to earn the well deserved Legend of the East outfit. Finally, Armadillo should be back to normal during the epilogue and a plague town during Arthur's story.

 

Heck I only recently discovered unused voice lines, like Sheriff Freeman acknowledging a wanted man like Arthur in his town.

They should have made it like in San Andreas where being in New Austin only meant you were gonna have to dodge patrols and what not, not getting instanly clapped by the invisible sniper, it would have been 1000x more fun and actually interesting to be running around in a state thats on tight lockdown to do side activites and hunt, it would have created good organic scenarios for the player to interact with.