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Billy Russo

Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes

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Has anybody watched this yet on Netflix? I'd highly recommend. I think it's one of the best true crime documentaries I've personally ever watched. I've always found Ted Bundy very interesting, and this is a really scary & disturbing look in to the mind of him.

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Mister Pinkerton

Haven't seen this yet but heard about it. Looks like Ted will be getting a lot of attention this year as there's also the movie about him too starring Zach Efron

 

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I'll certianly give it a watch. Ted Bundy is interesting and he even broke out of prison and committed more murder. He also insanely represented himself. Apparently he started talking to a reporter in the 3rd person, like what he would imagine the killer might have been thinking.

 

Think I seen something similar like that to another killer in the Netflix show Mindhunter , which is a great show focussing on the FBI setting up their criminal profiling unit for serial killers. Imagine there was a time that didn't really have a profiling unit at least not for serial killers. The term "serial killer" didn't exist until around the time of Ted Bundy. I think a term used before "serial killer" was "sequence murderer" which doesn't have the same ring to it. 

 

But yeah, will defo give it a watch and the new film. 

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darthYENIK

Watched a couple episodes.  Had some pretty radical imagery.

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Mister Pinkerton

OK, I watched the first two episodes. I really thought I was pretty knowledgable about Ted Bundy, turns out I'm not. There's heaps of information in this doc that was really new to me. It's absolutely insane that he escaped from prison (twice, no doubt) and then was caught in another state (Florida) after travelling north from the south to backtrack down south again. When he was caught he refused to say who he was. The didn't even know it was Ted Bundy for weeks. He just refused to say who he was. Nobody could properly recognise him because of his very changeable face. 

 

 

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Billy Russo
On 2/2/2019 at 11:26 PM, Mister Pinkerton said:

OK, I watched the first two episodes. I really thought I was pretty knowledgable about Ted Bundy, turns out I'm not. There's heaps of information in this doc that was really new to me. It's absolutely insane that he escaped from prison (twice, no doubt) and then was caught in another state (Florida) after travelling north from the south to backtrack down south again. When he was caught he refused to say who he was. The didn't even know it was Ted Bundy for weeks. He just refused to say who he was. Nobody could properly recognise him because of his very changeable face. 

 

 

Yeah, it really was packed with information. I was shocked he was able to escape twice, just shows how times have changed since then. The way he escaped the second time by starving himself and climbing through a small hole was honestly crazy. You can't just begin to imagine what the mind of someone like that works like. 

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Hmmm nice bike

Haven't seen this yet, but I want to. I think it's interesting how Ted Bundy differs from the usual serial killer we've seen in that he was actually a well-spoken, educated, and handsome guy. Jeffery Dahmer and Richard Ramirez always looked plain creepy, and John Wayne Gacy was a greasy fat slob and part-time clown. Just proves how anyone is capable of being a monster.

 

But what's worse is the fact that Bundy actually got fan mail from women telling him they loved him and had "groupies" following his trial and showing up there (and Bundy himself was even creeped out by one of them, which says a lot about them).

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darthYENIK

Bundy was f*cked up because he was seemingly normal.  More than that.  He’s was likable.  If he wasn’t a killer, he could’ve been a politician.  

 

Don’t know what’s worse.

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Mister Pinkerton

If I may go slightly off topic for a recommendation.  For those of you that found it interesting how the reporter coaxed Bundy into talking about his crimes by talking about himself in the 3rd person, I would highly recommend the show Mindhunter. The name of the show is crap, but don't let it put you off. David Fincher (Se7en, The Social Network, Zodiac, Gone Girl, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo) is a producer and directs about half the season's episodes. It's about FBI and some pioneering agents that practically set up criminal profiling unit as a sub-division of the behavioural science division in the FBI. It was kind of a radical decision to try profile serial killers to try prevent the crimes. It was a new concept that was fought hard to be established, according to the show. 

 

In the show you see interviews with versions of real serial killers. The show explores some of the tactics they used to get these guys to open up. There was no guidebook for these agents. And serial killers were kind of a new concept in a profiling sense. Nobody before never really compared notes and studied them to discover similarities. 

 

As mentioned before, the term "serial killer" wasn't even conceived yet, until you see them use it for the first time in the show. Before they called them sequence killers. 

 

Anyway, one of the highlights is Ed Kemper. He's very curious and quite charming and charismatic. Initially, they couldn't get him to talk but then they learned how to get him to talk quite openly and candidly. 

 

(paraphrased)

"I'm not an authority (on the subject of murder).. I've just been an extremely accomplished murderer for nearly 20 years!"   - f*cking crazy mofo

 

 

 

If you are interested in bizarre minds and psychology of these psychopaths, you'll like Mindhunter. It's also got 97% of RT. 

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Is this The Guy?

I’m about to get into this, it looks interesting.  Netflix has some really good documentaries

 

Funny that I first caught wind of this when I saw a headline about Netflix begging people to stop calling Ted Bundy hot lol

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Lonely-Martin

Watched the first 2 episodes today. A very involved documentary I've found. Even to hear him talk in the tapes while on death row, the man comes across as such a calm, smart, and controlled person there. That's very chilling to hear IMO.

 

And seeing the picture above of Zac Efron in the role, he don't half look like him there. Hopefully it's a decent flick, certainly got a title for the movie that grabs attention. 

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Lonely-Martin

To add to the above as I've seen all of this documentary now.

 

The way he was relishing the questioning in court of some witnesses in what looks like taking real pleasure in hearing all that back of what was done is quite alarming. How this man could be in such a position is amazing too. His games with the lawyers and even at the end how the judge was initially saying how evil he was but that he wishes him well was something I found uncomfortable a bit too. Really was a bit OJ-like in how the courts got caught out by the nature of the case and let it become more than just a trial, I felt.

 

The man really was just a nasty, manipulative piece of work. Good series though.

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Mister Pinkerton

I keep thinking how damn resourceful he is. Like being able to go on the run, steal cars, escape prison, manipulate, charm, deceive. If he really put his mind to it he could have excelled in many professions and could have been a great asset to society. 

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Wanna know a fact that no documenteries have mentioned?

 

It's suspected that Ted Bundy committed his first murder when he was only 13 or 14 years old, Police suspected and interviewed him at the time in the disappearance and murder of  8-year-old Anne Marie Burr he often played with though she still remains missing to this day.

 

Ted was never officially ruled out as a suspect in the case and he was even questioned again after he was arrested for the serial killings but kept his mouth shut but  a college professor who interviewed him for a book claims he confessed that he was indeed responsible for her death although Ted denies this claim and there was nothing but the professor word to back up the claim but did drop several hints to others

 

On 2/14/2019 at 4:54 PM, Mister Pinkerton said:

I keep thinking how damn resourceful he is. Like being able to go on the run, steal cars, escape prison, manipulate, charm, deceive. If he really put his mind to it he could have excelled in many professions and could have been a great asset to society. 

 

As the Judge who oversaw his trial said He would've made a helluva lawyer, I studied Ted as part of my Masters and he was indeed brilliant and some have even said had the IQ of a Genius although his IQ was never actually documented but you're right if he had gone on the straight and narrow and finished his studies to become a Lawyer, I wouldn't have any doubt that he would today be a Federal Judge if not a Judge he would have worked for the Justice Dept as a U.S Attny maybe even the U.S Attny General he was that good.

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