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Piro

Someone needs to explain to me the logic behind using a metal detector to find fossils...

Are we picking up parts from beast wars transformers or something?

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also I'm having this weird bug on PC where no matter what collectible alcohol I drink, my character always drinks the first one on the list... Am I the only one with this issue? 

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Officer Friendly
9 hours ago, Retro_Causality said:

Rockstar can't have another lackluster announcement like they did in June

Yes they can and of course they will.

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vault28
15 minutes ago, Piro said:

Someone needs to explain to me the logic behind using a metal detector to find fossils...

Are we picking up parts from beast wars transformers or something?

edit:
also I'm having this weird bug on PC where no matter what collectible alcohol I drink, my character always drinks the first one on the list... Am I the only one with this issue? 

I'm assuming it's meant to be an 'accidental' find.

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30 minutes ago, Piro said:

Someone needs to explain to me the logic behind using a metal detector to find fossils...

Are we picking up parts from beast wars transformers or something?

edit:
also I'm having this weird bug on PC where no matter what collectible alcohol I drink, my character always drinks the first one on the list... Am I the only one with this issue? 

how do you drink it? you can go into your collection and choose which to drink...

 

the fossils with the detector make no sense. they should be hidden like the small dirt hills...

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kcole4001
58 minutes ago, Piro said:

Someone needs to explain to me the logic behind using a metal detector to find fossils...

Are we picking up parts from beast wars transformers or something?

edit:
also I'm having this weird bug on PC where no matter what collectible alcohol I drink, my character always drinks the first one on the list... Am I the only one with this issue? 

Yeah, metal fossils are just silly.

They just want to place them behind a paywall: buy the Collector role for gold, then buy the metal detector.

 

The alcohol thing has been an issue for weeks now, it's always Old Tom Gin for me, I just have to keep that one stocked up as much as possible.

 

It just might not matter any more if the game never loads....appears it may be a Win 7 issue, launcher keeps crashing.

Might be the end.

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Piro
50 minutes ago, fryday said:

how do you drink it? you can go into your collection and choose which to drink...

And no matter what I choose to drink the character always drinks the first one on the list. No matter if I use a mouse or arrows+enter. This wasn't a problem before the last update, so its not like I don't know how it works lol.
  

1 hour ago, vault28 said:

I'm assuming it's meant to be an 'accidental' find.

So every time we find a fossil its 'accidentally' under a random piece of metal? Nah, that dosn't make much sense. They should just change it so we can find it using our senses, just like flowers and other random collectibles. 
 

26 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

The alcohol thing has been an issue for weeks now, it's always Old Tom Gin for me, I just have to keep that one stocked up as much as possible.

Tnx. At least now I know its not only me.


 

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1 hour ago, Piro said:


edit:
also I'm having this weird bug on PC where no matter what collectible alcohol I drink, my character always drinks the first one on the list... Am I the only one with this issue? 

PS Pro

Messes up for me as well.

Drink any of the collectable alcohols and it removes the Absinthe instead of the one I used.

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DentureDynamite
1 hour ago, Piro said:

also I'm having this weird bug on PC where no matter what collectible alcohol I drink, my character always drinks the first one on the list... Am I the only one with this issue?

If you're trying to drink it via the Inventory screen (as opposed to the weapon wheel), I suspect it's related to much bigger Inventory item selection lag issues, and outright rejection of mouse clicks.

 

It's very annoying, and especially problematic when you're under fire and need to quickly eat some Minty Big Game or drink a tonic.

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Retro_Causality

1 hour until the playstation showcase

 

what is everyone's final predictions in terms of Rockstar

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vault28
5 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

1 hour until the playstation showcase

 

what is everyone's final predictions in terms of Rockstar

Probably a RDRII release for Ps5 or showing off the enhanced GTA V.
 

In my wildest dreams? A RDR remaster and a preview for the R* editor and upcoming DLC.

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kcole4001
9 minutes ago, DentureDynamite said:

If you're trying to drink it via the Inventory screen (as opposed to the weapon wheel), I suspect it's related to much bigger Inventory item selection lag issues, and outright rejection of mouse clicks.

 

It's very annoying, and especially problematic when you're under fire and need to quickly eat some Minty Big Game or drink a tonic.

I mostly use the arrow keys rather than the mouse for selection in menus when possible, so for the alcohol selection it's just been broken since the Naturalist update unless you haven't got a full list, the order varies apparently, maybe depending on the order in which you've collected them, some have reported it's a different bottle every time, but always whatever's on the top of the list.

The wheel is a whole 'nother bag of issues.

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Piro
41 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

1 hour until the playstation showcase

 

what is everyone's final predictions in terms of Rockstar


"why did i moved here? I guess it was the weather"

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Retro_Causality
4 minutes ago, Piro said:


"why did i moved here? I guess it was the weather"

the eternal "why did i move here"

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Mirror Park Resident
27 minutes ago, Piro said:


"why did i moved here? I guess it was the weather"

Nah, this time will be: "my job, my score, take your own!"

 

22 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

the eternal "why did i move here"

XVII century: "eppur si muove"

 

XX century: “that's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”

 

XXI century: "why did I move here?"

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éX-Driver

What I wouldn’t give to be able to put a load of buckshot in the skull of my horse every time it let me down. We could do it in Redemption 1’s MP and then immediately call in another horse to do it again. Nope, here you can’t shoot your horse and if it dies you gotta pay and then wait several minutes. Ugh.

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DentureDynamite

^^ And people wonder why I shoot horses so much in RDO. lol

 

Nothing like getting stuck in a three-wolf attack -plus- an ambush at the same time (ala last night), while your horse bucks you off and makes a run for it.

 

There are times when I want nothing more than to shove a stick of dynamite in my horse where the sun don't shine and light the fuse.

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Talisman_83

aaand ZERO.

 

Can't say I'm surprised.

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executor404
10 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said:

aaand ZERO.

 

Can't say I'm surprised.

Maybe R* will announce something on their own, soon...

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Direwrath
5 hours ago, Piro said:

Someone needs to explain to me the logic behind using a metal detector to find fossils...

Are we picking up parts from beast wars transformers or something?

Lol, I don't want to be the one to find Grimlock. Although he was my favorite.

 

Maybe it's a magical anything detector with the supernatural power of finding something that was once alive, or something like that?

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Archangelsky

I found this on

4 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

It just might not matter any more if the game never loads....appears it may be a Win 7 issue, launcher keeps crashing.

Might be the end.

I found this on the Steam forums and it worked for me :

 

 

Solution for Windows 7 and 8 users: add the following launch argument through Steam

-sgadriver=Vulkan

This helps it run again.

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kcole4001
13 minutes ago, Archangelsky said:

I found this on

I found this on the Steam forums and it worked for me :

 

 

Solution for Windows 7 and 8 users: add the following launch argument through Steam

-sgadriver=Vulkan

This helps it run again.

Yep, thanks, I found that earlier.

Worked briefly enough to select 'camp' to load in then disconnected.

Second attempt worked.

 

I've submitted a ticket, tier 1 had no idea, tier 2 asked for a bunch of info (dxdaig, msinfo, etc), sent that off and explained how I got it to work with community help after over 6 hours trying to access what worked perfectly yesterday, and a pointed comment about how some brain donor thought it was a great idea to preselect a graphics API I can't actually use.

Whether they do anything with that, well, we all know how far that will go.

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darkmaster234
3 hours ago, Talisman_83 said:

aaand ZERO.

 

Can't say I'm surprised.

Did they assist to the event in the first place?

 

I asserted a few weeks ago that i didnt believe anything rd related would be showcased nor advertised before gtav 5, nor at the same time... i personally dont expect an announcement no sooner that the fall of next year, a few months after gta v arrives.

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ALifeOfMisery
14 minutes ago, darkmaster234 said:

Did they assist to the event in the first place?

 

I asserted a few weeks ago that i didnt believe anything rd related would be showcased nor advertised before gtav 5, nor at the same time... i personally dont expect an announcement no sooner that the fall of next year, a few months after gta v arrives.

It's not like RDR2 really needs a remaster, to be honest, it looks phenomenal already on PS4 Pro.

 

What we are really waiting on is R* announcing things like RDO character transfer, and whether RDO will even be playable at all on next gen at launch.

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darkmaster234
15 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

It's not like RDR2 really needs a remaster, to be honest, it looks phenomenal already on PS4 Pro.

 

What we are really waiting on is R* announcing things like RDO character transfer, and whether RDO will even be playable at all on next gen at launch.

That is an interest matter indeed, i dont believe so, that would mean a loss of money for them lol, and they are not cdk project, so i will guess a proper remaster is on the way with a whole augmented price on the shelves. So as they will already with gta, they may not care  to loose a few inmediate sells in the first year of the console.

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kcole4001
13 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

It's not like RDR2 really needs a remaster, to be honest, it looks phenomenal already on PS4 Pro.

 

What we are really waiting on is R* announcing things like RDO character transfer, and whether RDO will even be playable at all on next gen at launch.

I see no need for any remaster, it's easily one of the best looking games ever made.

Remember they backed off some graphics settings last year, with a new console they should be able to reverse that soon enough.

 

PS5 is supposed to be backwards compatible, so I'd expect that as one of the more recent titles, RDR2 shouldn't have any issues, other than those already existing that is.

I think confirmation is all anyone's getting anxious about, some word would solve that worry, but R* being R*, they won't bother with informing anyone of anything as usual.

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ALifeOfMisery
24 minutes ago, darkmaster234 said:

That is an interest matter indeed, i dont believe so, that would mean a loss of money for them lol, and they are not cdk project, so i will guess a proper remaster is on the way. So as they will already with gta, they may not care  to loose a few inmediate sells in the first year of the console.

 

18 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

I see no need for any remaster, it's easily one of the best looking games ever made.

Remember they backed off some graphics settings last year, with a new console they should be able to reverse that soon enough.

 

PS5 is supposed to be backwards compatible, so I'd expect that as one of the more recent titles, RDR2 shouldn't have any issues, other than those already existing that is.

I think confirmation is all anyone's getting anxious about, some word would solve that worry, but R* being R*, they won't bother with informing anyone of anything as usual.

I've no problem with buying a PS5 remaster, I definitely will, if required. It doesn't need it, but I expect nothing less from R*, even if it's just a "Premium Online Edition".

 

My main concern is that, although the PS4 version of RDR2 will likely be included in the "over 99%" of PS4 titles that will work through backwards compatibility, what about RDO?

 

Will we get character transfers? We expected current gen to PC, R* said nothing, players got stiffed. We'll be at the point, when PS5 launches at least, where console players will have put in 2 years worth of character progress on current gen, imo it's a big ask, and an unreasonable one, to expect day one players to abandon their characters and progress.

 

Will RDO even be playable on launch of next gen? R* surely won't allow cross gen lobby sharing, so will PS5 and XSX/XSS have access to their own servers? Or are R* expecting players moving to next gen to wait, still playing RDO on current gen? If so how long?

 

I won't keep going, but it illustrates my main point that R* should be saying something. We already know a DLC is coming, very likely just weeks after next gen launches, there shouldn't be these unanswered questions at this point.

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kcole4001
1 hour ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

 

I've no problem with buying a PS5 remaster, I definitely will, if required. It doesn't need it, but I expect nothing less from R*, even if it's just a "Premium Online Edition".

 

My main concern is that, although the PS4 version of RDR2 will likely be included in the "over 99%" of PS4 titles that will work through backwards compatibility, what about RDO?

 

Will we get character transfers? We expected current gen to PC, R* said nothing, players got stiffed. We'll be at the point, when PS5 launches at least, where console players will have put in 2 years worth of character progress on current gen, imo it's a big ask, and an unreasonable one, to expect day one players to abandon their characters and progress.

....

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OK, obviously I don't understand how the transfer between iterations of console works.

Couldn't you just continue playing as is only on updated hardware as backwards compatibility implies, or is it like a completely different operating system?

 

And yes, either way they have a responsibility to their customers to let them know exactly what to expect.

honestly, I'm surprised Sony and MS don't insist they do so, as console players are every bit their customers as well.

 

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DentureDynamite
21 hours ago, Archangelsky said:

I found this on the Steam forums and it worked for me :

 

Solution for Windows 7 and 8 users: add the following launch argument through Steam

-sgadriver=Vulkan

This helps it run again.

Thankfully, it does--but anyone else finding that Deadeye no longer works?

 

No matter what key combination or mouse input type I try (I even reset everything to defaults), I can't get Deadeye to work.

 

Eagle eye works fine; no problems there... and before this latest patch, Deadeye worked just fine.

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darkmaster234
4 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

 

I've no problem with buying a PS5 remaster, I definitely will, if required. It doesn't need it, but I expect nothing less from R*, even if it's just a "Premium Online Edition".

 

My main concern is that, although the PS4 version of RDR2 will likely be included in the "over 99%" of PS4 titles that will work through backwards compatibility, what about RDO?

 

Will we get character transfers? We expected current gen to PC, R* said nothing, players got stiffed. We'll be at the point, when PS5 launches at least, where console players will have put in 2 years worth of character progress on current gen, imo it's a big ask, and an unreasonable one, to expect day one players to abandon their characters and progress.

 

Will RDO even be playable on launch of next gen? R* surely won't allow cross gen lobby sharing, so will PS5 and XSX/XSS have access to their own servers? Or are R* expecting players moving to next gen to wait, still playing RDO on current gen? If so how long?

 

I won't keep going, but it illustrates my main point that R* should be saying something. We already know a DLC is coming, very likely just weeks after next gen launches, there shouldn't be these unanswered questions at this point.

Thats a good question, i personally dont care lol. i never ever bought first versión of consoles after i saw that people suffered the red ring (xbox 360) and blue lights of dead, or that stupid ejection issue (ps4), and i am certainly not starting now. beigng in peace with it i can wait until sony get their sh*t together, especially if we consider the first year catalogue.

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Krommer

They will let you use the same character, if the game comes out for the new Xbox/PS, because they want you to buy it again.

 

They did the same thing with GTAV from Xbox 360 to Xbox One, with me buying it again for that reason. Usually, they do something that

did not work on the lower version; On Xbox 360 new cars and such were no longer added to online, since it did not have the required memory/

graphics, so that was a concrete reason to "upgrade" to Xbox One. 

 

The GTAV Online character transferred to GTAV on the Xbox One (after buying that version.), from the Xbox 360.

The SINGLE PLAYER game save did NOT, unfortunately =/ 

 

33 minutes ago, darkmaster234 said:

i never ever bought first versión of consoles after i saw that people suffered the red ring (xbox 360) and blue lights of dead, or that stupid ejection issue (ps4), and i am certainly not starting now.

 

True, I did not even buy the FIRST xbox 360! I waited for the "elite" black one, STILL getting the red ring! Then I got a second hand 360, cheap, which was also the 

older style I guess (also red ringed!) Then I fixed one of the red ringed ones with the "unseat the heat sink, propping it up with pennies" trick, which let it unredring and I could play again.

THEN I got the "dreaded GPU unseating from the motherboard" event, which caused a different kind of red ring.

 

At THAT point, I finally bit the bullet and replaced it with the Xbox One ;) My regular Xbox One, non-4K, has always performed great and never overheats/and never even has fan noise.

The issue with the 360, was that the CPU and GPU were "cold soldered" or something; so they unseated from the motherboard when things got "hot." Later versions of xbox 360 did not 

do this. Unfortunately, my first red ring on that Elite was AFTER I could have mailed it back to Microsoft for a free fix/replacement.

 

Like then, I'm not going to buy the new Xbox until I really have to. In this case, I'll wait until the games are so good they won't run on a regular Xbox One anymore.

I will definitely buy it, the cost for performance is FAR SUPERIOR to a computer/subsequent computer upgrades to keep playing. Consoles are basically priced to 

be disposable in a few years. I once added it up, with the cost of the then Xbox 360/PS4 AND Nintendo Wii COMBINED still being less than the cost of a computer, plus the needed upgrades,

for the same period of "gaming years."

 

Although the same is not really true of the Xbox One, the Xbox 360 lasted TEN YEARS, as far as gaming time goes. That is INSANE.

Imagine getting a computer at the same time the 360 was new, then having it last for ten years of gaming (without any upgrades.)

 

Also, i'm very glad I play games like this and "No Man's Sky" on the console, since there is hacking/cheating on the PC. 

 

It only makes sense for them to make the next console version work with the same save game(at least if the game is online at all.)  Capcom is stupid, they did not do this with Dark Arisen so I never bought

the Xbox One version after I played it a lot on the 360. I would have paid another $60, in abouit three seconds, if they had. It is a really good game.

 

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