RDO Next Updates Speculation & General Chat (Part I)

[AltiMetro]

5 hours ago, StyxTx said:

Why wouldn't they release all that quality content for long time users before now? Why target just new users, many of whom won't be around very long anyway because a vast majority of players don't stick with games for years on end. That's just the nature of casual players. Probably because a majority of it will be created in order to get people to buy gold which many long time users have plenty of already.

I have so much gold is sickening. I have no interest in anything cosmetic so I haven't spent 1 gold for any cosmetic item. I suppose many people use a lot of gold for those type of things. I saved it all up hoping one day there would be something of substance to use it on. Besides, even in real life I like having plenty of reserves of anything.

With the start of standalone (and expected MTX sales), here's the best case scenario I can see: R* said "OK, now we're entering a new phase. Time to crank out a good update every x months".
Ideally, it will retain new players for longer and longer periods of time, and create a wave that sustains the game. But I'm walking on thin ice here, I'm - obviously - not an expert on these things.

GTA did get some features at an earlier stage, compared to RDO: content creator and heists. But the two games are very different in some ways, it's hard to make comparisons. RDO has received a similar amount of content in its first year and a half. I wish RDO had received more content of a certain type, no doubt. R* made several mistakes since launch, and did some things I don't agree with at all.

But - playing devil's advocate - I can see a scenario where 2021 will be a real good year for RDO. Fingers crossed.

[IamCourtney]

R* has their own in-house precedent to look to with GTAO; that game was more or less stagnant, if not slowly dying, before the OG Heist update dropped and it's been nothing but profit for them since. Now, RDO will almost certainly never reach the same level in absolute terms but there's no reason it can't be a solid second, all it takes is one really juicy hook and timely supplemental content.

[StyxTx]

1 hour ago, IamCourtney said:

R* has their own in-house precedent to look to with GTAO; that game was more or less stagnant, if not slowly dying, before the OG Heist update dropped and it's been nothing but profit for them since. Now, RDO will almost certainly never reach the same level in absolute terms but there's no reason it can't be a solid second, all it takes is one really juicy hook and timely supplemental content.

I agree, but to date they have gone 100% against the wishes of the player base which makes that dude's comments about the game progressing by listening to players seem like a lie. They are still insisting on doing things their way and that's that. I mentioned this another time but forcing players of various personalities into lobbies with conflicting personalities is not a good idea. Forcing adults who have no desire to play with immature people or kids isn't a good idea. Allowing people to have lobbies with people they want to be with, be they friends or people with similar playing styles would be a huge winner for them but R* is R*. Until I see them moving away from their stubborness I don't have any optimism. After 2 plus years of playing this game all I see is that they still refuse to listen. What makes anyone think that now they'll change. This latest ploy was just for money, and that's it.

 

The way I see it, with a major influx of new players who are clueless as to the state of the game, they are buying themselves a few more years of poor updates.

Edited December 12, 2020 by StyxTx

[DontGetClose1990]

The low levels stubbornness are top notch,because they don't have tiniest bit of clue what's gonna happen if they messed up with veteran players. 2 days ago,i saw low level delivering mail for free roam mission. Went pass me and shoot everything that move basically, shoot him back and like 6 or 7 times after spawned he ran straight back at me looking for more "action" before realized that he got no chance of killing me.

 

I highly respect their will to fight but BRUH..... , understand as well who are you fighting.

[Rev. Gnash]

Hostility has risen, across the board on PS4/PS5. I stick to my two kill rule (I kill them or they kill me - but it will only be twice) and switch sessions.

 

Dealt some justice, to a low level posse in Valentine; took those dummies 10 minutes to figure out, that I was on the roof and not inside the saloon. Posse of three, killed everyone twice and left.

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by Rev. Gnash

[IamCourtney]

Lately, as long as they keep coming, I keep killing until I get bored. And I played RDO beta, so I have a pretty high boredom tolerance. And yet, more often than not, I'm the one who says 'enough' and parleys/switches sessions. If we could harness the energetic potential of belligerent lowbies, the world would be carbon neutral by Christmas.

[Krommer]

35 minutes ago, IamCourtney said:

And I played RDO beta, so I have a pretty high boredom tolerance

 

Lols, same. 

 

Not only was there not much to do, but if you "discovered" something on your own (like catching salmon, which was lucrative until the price nerf, under Bacchus Bridge/whatever) some guy would come

over after seeing your blip just sitting there still and kill you.

 

Or I'd be doing a mission that was a wagon guard/whatever, then a guy would blow it up; it was a bad combination of not much to do and "griefers." 

 

I still played it all the time, weirdly enough. Even with that stuff, as well as NIGHTMARISH disconnects (compared to now) I still really was having fun.

It is just way, way, way, way better now.

 

 

2 hours ago, Rev. Gnash said:

Hostility has risen, across the board on PS4/PS5. I stick to my two kill rule (I kill them or they kill me - but it will only be twice) and switch sessions.

 

Still having no trouble with players, on Xbox One. They all seem to go to the showdowns/whatever if they want to PVP, I guess.

People actually seem polite, waving/hat tipping to me as I do to them (in free roam around the map.)

 

Or are they seeing my Asian girl all alone, in her fancy clothes and level 321, then being terrified so they leave her alone? I kind of doubt that.

Edited December 12, 2020 by Krommer

[AltiMetro]

Think we'll see a steady stream of new players at least until the $5 runs out, maybe longer.
Some of them need to be potty trained, and shown some of us don't like to be shot at randomly in free roam.

I still haven't shot first, since day 1 of beta. I'll keep that policy. If someone shoots at me, I either ignore them or fight until I get bored.

At the same time I'll be courteous to low levels, or help them out if there's an opportunity. Think it's important they make the experience the vibe in RDO is different from GTA and other games.

[kcole4001]

Most players I've met have been just doing their thing, many were probably still figuring everything out, definitely most of the low levels take a while to catch on to the dynamic of this game.

It's the responsibility of the higher level players to set the tone, whether we accept that responsibility or not.

They're going to learn how this game is in regards to overall feel from those around them.

 

Of course some of them are just little johnny triggerfinger, and have to shoot at anyone they see. I rode along the road north of Dewberry creek heading to a collectible once and some player in the creek starting shooting at me.
I stopped and checked their level, it was like 14 or something so I rode away, him still firing away, and I'm thinking 'dude, what is your problem?'

Once somebody with player name AngryNAutistic ran me over with a wagon when I was standing in a field looking at the map, he was mid 100s but I thought perhaps this kid is actually autistic, so didn't snipe his ass off that wagon.

 

Hostility breeds hostility, and continuing it just reinforces some people's idea that it's GTA on horses and it's OK to blast everyone they see.

If it's seemingly random usually i don't bother retaliating.

If it's obviously planned, such as shooting my horse when I'm in a building then waiting to ambush me when I come out, normally I throw all the lead I can muster.

 

And often I just can't be bothered with them.

[*Lola]

25 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

 

Once somebody with player name AngryNAutistic ran me over with a wagon when I was standing in a field looking at the map, he was mid 100s but I thought perhaps this kid is actually autistic, so didn't snipe his ass off that wagon.

 

Dynamite arrow would have been a better choice.

[Rev. Gnash]

Agreed

 

 

 

[TagoKG]

So next week should start holiday "event" for RDO

[AdamNortonUK]

3 hours ago, TagoKG said:

So next week should start holiday "event" for RDO

Most likely December 22nd when the Christmas Trees go up and the snow is everywhere until January 5th!

[Direwrath]

10 hours ago, kcole4001 said:

Most players I've met have been just doing their thing, many were probably still figuring everything out, definitely most of the low levels take a while to catch on to the dynamic of this game.

It's the responsibility of the higher level players to set the tone, whether we accept that responsibility or not.

They're going to learn how this game is in regards to overall feel from those around them.

 

Of course some of them are just little johnny triggerfinger, and have to shoot at anyone they see. I rode along the road north of Dewberry creek heading to a collectible once and some player in the creek starting shooting at me.
I stopped and checked their level, it was like 14 or something so I rode away, him still firing away, and I'm thinking 'dude, what is your problem?'

Once somebody with player name AngryNAutistic ran me over with a wagon when I was standing in a field looking at the map, he was mid 100s but I thought perhaps this kid is actually autistic, so didn't snipe his ass off that wagon.

 

Hostility breeds hostility, and continuing it just reinforces some people's idea that it's GTA on horses and it's OK to blast everyone they see.

If it's seemingly random usually i don't bother retaliating.

If it's obviously planned, such as shooting my horse when I'm in a building then waiting to ambush me when I come out, normally I throw all the lead I can muster.

 

And often I just can't be bothered with them.

Yeah I had one dimwit, a DivineGamer who killed both me and my husband as we exited the gun shop in Valentine, and like a coward they instantly jumped the server because I wasn't even able to see who it was that killed me in the loading screen transition. I only knew who shot me because I recorded video of it. Intentions were obvious in that one.

 

 

[RyuNova]

On 12/11/2020 at 11:41 PM, IamCourtney said:

that game was more or less stagnant, if not slowly dying, before the OG Heist update dropped and it's been nothing but profit for them since

 

I disagree, it was the Bikers Update that revitalised GTAO. It gave people a purpose and a way to make serious cash. RDO skipped over all the sh*te like Beach Bum and went straight to Bikers with the Frontiers Pursuits Update but now it seems they are just throwing out Beach Bum level updates.

I do hope they have something like Frontiers Pursuits part II lined up or Heists but I can't see it any time soon. We know the next Outlaw Pass will be Trader or Naturalist themed and we already have the parts in place for Hunting Wagon liveries so it is likely a Traders Update meaning they are going in order and we will get a Collectors expansion after that. We could even see a Moonshiner and Naturalist expansion as well after.

 

Personally I still think they are saving a massive update like Heists for when Xbox One and PS4 support is dropped, perhaps we will see an Xbox X/S and PS5 upgrade later in the year. It makes me wonder why they have not announced a 60fps upgrade when its so simple on the new consoles.

 

On 12/12/2020 at 1:07 AM, StyxTx said:

They are still insisting on doing things their way and that's that.

 

They did nothing but bend over backwards for the players when this game was dead on arrival with multiple large patches and the release of FP. Once the game stabilised they seem to have post all that. It really does feel like the team has been drastically downsized. 

[AltiMetro]

Had a guy snipe me from a roof in Blackwater yesterday.
Killed him and his posse of 3 for about 5 minutes. They were Lvl 30-50.
Posse leader messages me, says he reported me for cheating, because I'm in God mode, they couldn't kill me.

A few messages later the posse leader was cool. He believed my side of the story and said he's sorry. Wanted to know how to become "invincible" like me.

I declined out of principle (I don't teach what I know to people who take random potshots at me), but we parted ways amicably. Was a good encounter.

In case you're wondering: I was in Defensive Mode, Lvl II tonic, gold core, Slow-and-Steady tank build. Nothing fancy, but yeah... they couldn't kill me up close, and didn't like my Carcano at range  

Edited December 13, 2020 by AltiMetro

[BUT THE BENZ]

dynamite arrows to the knees for all those bitches looking for trouble!

[videotech_]

Pretty quiet in here lol.

[Nerfgoth]

25 minutes ago, VideoTech_ said:

Pretty quiet in here lol.

There is not much to speculate on this time!

[AltiMetro]

just came across a datamined find, they seem to have recently added voice lines that sound like Seth from RDR1 (collector extension?) and some files related to taxidermy (trader / naturalist extension?).
 

[Talisman_83]

8 minutes ago, AltiMetro said:

just came across a datamined find, they seem to have recently added voice lines that sound like Seth from RDR1 (collector extension?) and some files related to taxidermy (trader / naturalist extension?).
 

 

Care to share?

[Bigglo145]

Rockstar really killed this game. Damn, we cant even get any new clothes?

[Retro_Causality]

no more "extensions"

[Saiyam]

 

 

[AutisticAnarchist]

1 minute ago, Nameless_Outlaw said:

 

 

So... no cult on Tuesday?

[Saiyam]

4 minutes ago, AutisticAnarchist said:

So... no cult on Tuesday?

Nah

[OREOBOREALIS]

has the outlaws pass 5 leak already been discussed here? https://imgur.com/a/hlY9Z8s

Most of the stuff looks pretty ugly.

This one jacket looked cool first but then i noticed the skull and bone buttons and yeah not really my thing. Those skulls and the belts in side kind of ruins it for me.

Would been cool for native character maybe without the pirate buttons, but they always add something over the top to the new clothing options now.

Edited December 14, 2020 by Kngee1899

[Tails Prower]

So this is the 'noob' question but I finally created a character for Red Dead Redemption online having owned the game since 2018 but never actually started.

 

I got to the bit in the tutorial where I am supposed to go do the Honour Amongst Thieves Mission which it states is 1-4 Players but I could not find anyway to start the job solo as it insisted I 'matchmake' for players and of course the game

did not find any so I guess I am stuck at this point unless it randomly matches me with another player

 

Otherwise beautiful game, just a shame it has so little attention from R* and not helped by recent nerf's....

[OREOBOREALIS]

2 hours ago, Tails Prower said:

So this is the 'noob' question but I finally created a character for Red Dead Redemption online having owned the game since 2018 but never actually started.

 

I got to the bit in the tutorial where I am supposed to go do the Honour Amongst Thieves Mission which it states is 1-4 Players but I could not find anyway to start the job solo as it insisted I 'matchmake' for players and of course the game

did not find any so I guess I am stuck at this point unless it randomly matches me with another player

 

Otherwise beautiful game, just a shame it has so little attention from R* and not helped by recent nerf's....

just wait. It sometimes takes time to get other players join

[AltiMetro]

14 hours ago, Talisman_83 said:

 

Care to share?

sorry, would have been a good idea to do this when I posted yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcL7wpIic2w

Edited December 14, 2020 by AltiMetro