RDO Next Updates Speculation & General Chat (Part I)

[AltiMetro]

maxed out the OP today, had the BH to Lvl 30 a couple days ago.
I didn't even hardcore grind.

I want to echo what some of you said.... we need content (and a reason to log in) that will last us more than a week or two.
Things to buy are nice, and big investments like properties, businesses, etc. are needed - if they're not just cosmetic, but also functional.

But the content I think we need goes beyond "stuff". Why not give us quests that each require 100 hours to complete? 500 hours? The result should be a (visible) transformation of our character, and adequate payout.


Sooner or later, even all those new $5 players will have maxed everything out. Then what? I could be wrong but if the amount and quality of updates continues at this pace, I find it hard to believe they'll stick around. Why would they?

I've talked about the lack of an arc on here before. Every good story, book and movie has one. RDO doesn't have one, even though the game and setting would lend themselves very well to it.
R*, add more RPG elements, send us on an adventure or two. Let our friends (posse) join us, or let us go it alone.

[4eyedcoupe]

13 minutes ago, Talisman_83 said:

Anyone received their 10 gold bars yet for purchasing OP4 in the first week?

I'm battling R* support to get mine on my second account.  They keep telling me I already got it, but I didn't.  I got it on my first account & support can't seem to figure out that I am not asking about the account connected to social club.  Think I am going to have to unlnk accounts

Edited December 10, 2020 by 4eyedcoupe

[Talisman_83]

14 minutes ago, *Lola said:

Twice

Hey, you got mine! Give it 

[Rokushakubo]

20 minutes ago, AltiMetro said:

we need content (and a reason to log in) that will last us more than a week or two.

I would LOVE if they gave us in-game rewards. For example, complete to legendary bounties on max difficulty to unlock an exclusive clothing item the target wears or a weapon skin. Cosmetic reasons to grind all the content would be great. 

[StyxTx]

38 minutes ago, Rokushakubo said:

I would LOVE if they gave us in-game rewards. For example, complete to legendary bounties on max difficulty to unlock an exclusive clothing item the target wears or a weapon skin. Cosmetic reasons to grind all the content would be great. 

Except for people like me who haven't bought an item of clothing outside of my first 3, one for each weather temp, because they couldn't care less about clothes in any game. The only thing that would make me want to play is quality content. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask, but it isn't a R* strong point.

Edited December 10, 2020 by StyxTx

[BUT THE BENZ]

2 hours ago, Talisman_83 said:

Anyone received their 10 gold bars yet for purchasing OP4 in the first week?

a few days ago, on PSN

[kcole4001]

1 hour ago, StyxTx said:

Except for people like me who haven't bought an item of clothing outside of my first 3, one for each weather temp, because they couldn't care less about clothes in any game. The only thing that would make me want to play is quality content. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask, but it isn't a R* strong point.

They're horrible at adding clothing options as well, so no one wins.

[Viewbob]

2 hours ago, Rokushakubo said:

I would LOVE if they gave us in-game rewards. For example, complete to legendary bounties on max difficulty to unlock an exclusive clothing item the target wears or a weapon skin. Cosmetic reasons to grind all the content would be great. 

they need to add a special reward for completing all life of shine missions on ruthless

[Nerfgoth]

2 hours ago, Rokushakubo said:

I would LOVE if they gave us in-game rewards. For example, complete to legendary bounties on max difficulty to unlock an exclusive clothing item the target wears or a weapon skin. Cosmetic reasons to grind all the content would be great. 

Like elite challenge in GTA? Yeah, it could be really cool!

[Franula]

I'm looking at Google Trends at the moment and popularity of Red Dead Online is still on 100 (the highest number). It's also more popular than Moonshiners or Naturalist. Of course I used option for 12 months. I think R* reached their goal. A lot of players bought Red Dead Online standalone, it's very popular and gold is selling better I think. It prospers good for the future. 

Edited December 10, 2020 by Franula

[darkmaster234]

5 hours ago, AltiMetro said:

maxed out the OP today, had the BH to Lvl 30 a couple days ago.
I didn't even hardcore grind.

I want to echo what some of you said.... we need content (and a reason to log in) that will last us more than a week or two.
Things to buy are nice, and big investments like properties, businesses, etc. are needed - if they're not just cosmetic, but also functional.

But the content I think we need goes beyond "stuff". Why not give us quests that each require 100 hours to complete? 500 hours? The result should be a (visible) transformation of our character, and adequate payout.


Sooner or later, even all those new $5 players will have maxed everything out. Then what? I could be wrong but if the amount and quality of updates continues at this pace, I find it hard to believe they'll stick around. Why would they?

I've talked about the lack of an arc on here before. Every good story, book and movie has one. RDO doesn't have one, even though the game and setting would lend themselves very well to it.
R*, add more RPG elements, send us on an adventure or two. Let our friends (posse) join us, or let us go it alone.

I think rockstar expects them to not endure the grindfest they created last week and buy gold... then if that happen invest for a decent update for next  december.

 

Of course, they might buy gold initially but thats its, this is not gta that has tons of crap to buy... if they dont create premiun content fast, they will drop this without buying more premiun currency.

Edited December 11, 2020 by darkmaster234

[RS123]

22 minutes ago, darkmaster234 said:

I think rockstar expects them to not endure the grindfest they created last week and buy gold... then if that happen invest for a decent update for next  december.

 

Of course, they might buy gold initially but thats its, this is not gta that has tons of crap to buy... if they dont create premiun content fast, they will drop this without buying more premiun currency.

They still have properties up their sleeve, they could add properties along with heists so with a big wave of players jump on to do heists they have something to spend money on.

[DontGetClose1990]

8 hours ago, Talisman_83 said:

Anyone received their 10 gold bars yet for purchasing OP4 in the first week?

Yes but i couldn't remember the amount of gb i had before and after they sent it to me.

[DontGetClose1990]

2 hours ago, RS123 said:

They still have properties up their sleeve, they could add properties along with heists so with a big wave of players jump on to do heists they have something to spend money on.

I like the optimism but how long it will take for them to do it? They going to kill the hype train again like usual long before the actual update comes.

 

I wanna see them add LOTS of quality contents where i can splash the cash or gold that i worked so hard previously. The grinding days is over when they f*cked up the daily and now i want to enjoy myself playing this game.

[Rev. Gnash]

3 hours ago, RS123 said:

They still have properties up their sleeve, they could add properties along with heists so with a big wave of players jump on to do heists they have something to spend money on.

If they have properties, they need to add them for Christmas, along with  decorations and snow ball fights.

[Krommer]

I don't really see how they'd do "Properties"; they'd have to have them instanced, like "your" Moonshine shack. 

They would not really work like our camps, since the map could not really fit as many properties as there are players

 in the lobby without some having overlap.

 

So if we had "ranches", it would probably be "a ranch" you enter (like the Moonshine shacks work), which is then you

zoning into it. They already do things that way in GTAO (but they are all buildings, as opposed to some outdoor thing like

"a ranch." 

 

Have they ever said we'd have properties? (not that I can find, I mean Rockstar actually saying it.)

 

The only info seems to be a "leak" data mining?

 

https://whatculture.com/gaming/everything-you-need-to-know-about-red-dead-onlines-upcoming-properties

 

Document_Macfarlane_Ranch_Deed = "45.00"2.

Document_Butcher_Creek_Shack_Deed = "50.00"3.

Document_Strawberry_Hotel_Room_Deed = "60.00"4.

Document_Silent_Stead_Deed = "80.00"5.

Document_Crop_Farm_Deed = "100.00"6.

Document_Crop_Farm_Deed_Rustic = "100.00"7.

Document_Lodge_Farm_Deed = "125.00"8.

Document_Saint_Denis_Mansion_Deed = "600.00"

 

Ah, now I see why people think they will exist 

 

The Macfarlane Ranch one sounds insanely cheap, unless the "deed" is for one of those crummy 'lil houses there..

My guess is that is what it would be, looking at the other prices (60 for a hotel room.) 

 

"However, 600 gold for a Saint Denis mansion? Some players who have been on the game since launch have never seen so much gold in their lifetimes.

Even some experienced YouTubers that play the game daily would struggle with such astronomical amounts."

 

Ha, I only started doing the dailies a lot in not even a whole year ago; I'm at 790 gold now, after buying the new Bounty Hunter stuff and junk (moving through the Outlaw pass up to level 97 so far. ) 

There would have to be a LOT you could do with it, for 600 gold to be worth it; the Crop Farm/lodge farm might be better, depending if you could really gain "farm" benefits.

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by Krommer

[eejyool]

14 hours ago, Foxwolfe said:

Naw, they feel like part of an update, throwing an outlaw pass on top of it just felt lazy compared to their big talk in interviews.

Exactly. I guess that for many people, including me, this update went from "absolute sh*t, just a bunch of new levels and a couple of new Legendary Bounties, nerfs and overpriced stuff" to "eh, it's okay". Infamous Bounties make the update decent for me, but decent isn't what many of us were looking for

[Shane_Dbns]

I finished the Outlaw Pass and the BH ranks. I guess that's it for me and RDO until May or whenever Rockstar decides to release another update for this game

[*Lola]

15 hours ago, Talisman_83 said:

Hey, you got mine! Give it 

[StyxTx]

9 hours ago, DontGetClose1990 said:

I like the optimism but how long it will take for them to do it? They going to kill the hype train again like usual long before the actual update comes.

 

I wanna see them add LOTS of quality contents where i can splash the cash or gold that i worked so hard previously. The grinding days is over when they f*cked up the daily and now i want to enjoy myself playing this game.

They kinda cut their own throats by reducing payouts for dailies. Many people played just to do dailies but now that is pointless so R* now has pretty much forced themselves to put out REAL, time consuming content for people to log in for in place of dailies.

 

My son went into the game a few days ago and he told me everyone in the lobbies was real low ranked, below 25 and many of them below 10. A high percentage of those will stop playing before long and R* has chased away a lot of the long time players so they will need to produce, and do it soon.

Edited December 11, 2020 by StyxTx

[AltiMetro]

4 hours ago, Krommer said:

The Macfarlane Ranch one sounds insanely cheap, unless the "deed" is for one of those crummy 'lil houses there..

My guess is that is what it would be, looking at the other prices (60 for a hotel room.) 

 

"However, 600 gold for a Saint Denis mansion? Some players who have been on the game since launch have never seen so much gold in their lifetimes.

Even some experienced YouTubers that play the game daily would struggle with such astronomical amounts."

 

I have 2400 gold.
I wouldn't buy them all though - just to buy them.
It would depend what I get.

Best case scenario for me to dish out lots of gold for a property: It comes with options to fully customize the interior, so my friends and I can enjoy it and remember the time spent in-game together.
I want to hang up any picture/screenshot I (or my friends) took in the game.
A trophy wall for achievements and Legendary Animals
A shooting range in the basement with fun mini-game modes
Lots of other mini-games (liars dice, five-finger filet, poker, horse shoes, etc. etc.)
6 guest rooms for all my posse members
Dog kennel
Stables
Boathouse
etc. etc. etc. , the list is endless.

If it's tied to a role (farms to a farmer role, fishermans hut, etc.), the options are a no-brainer.
If R* is smart, and they invest the time to give us quality, I'm convinced they'll like the resulting MTX sales - and those of us who are sitting on piles of gold will happily spend it.

9 minutes ago, StyxTx said:

They kinda cut their own throats by reducing payouts for dailies. Many people played just to do dailies but now that is pointless so R* now has pretty much forced themselves to put out REAL, time consuming content for people to log in for in place of dailies.

 

My son went into the game a few days ago and he told me everyone in the lobbies was real low ranked, below 25 and many of them below 10. A high percentage of those will stop playing before long and R* has chased away a lot of the long time players so they will need to produce, and do it soon.

Unless they've internally made a commitment to release lots of quality content, to retain the player base they're creating.

I realize that's being optimistic, because it's not in line with the amount of content they've released in the past 12 months.

But I haven't given up all hope

[kcole4001]

5 hours ago, Krommer said:

I don't really see how they'd do "Properties"; they'd have to have them instanced, like "your" Moonshine shack. 

They would not really work like our camps, since the map could not really fit as many properties as there are players

 in the lobby without some having overlap.

 

So if we had "ranches", it would probably be "a ranch" you enter (like the Moonshine shacks work), which is then you

zoning into it. They already do things that way in GTAO (but they are all buildings, as opposed to some outdoor thing like

"a ranch." 

 

Have they ever said we'd have properties? (not that I can find, I mean Rockstar actually saying it.)

....

 

They said in an interview that they were working on something along the lines of a "communal property" that players would share.

Which sounds believable, since it's a perversion of what players actually want, rather than straight up owned properties.

Like the hardcore showdowns..."what players asked for" only with the fun sucked out.

 

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1 hour ago, StyxTx said:

They kinda cut their own throats by reducing payouts for dailies. Many people played just to do dailies but now that is pointless so R* now has pretty much forced themselves to put out REAL, time consuming content for people to log in for in place of dailies.

 

My son went into the game a few days ago and he told me everyone in the lobbies was real low ranked, below 25 and many of them below 10. A high percentage of those will stop playing before long and R* has chased away a lot of the long time players so they will need to produce, and do it soon.

Absolutely, they've painted themselves into a corner, now they can't stall any longer and have to deliver or be outed as complete liars.

Unfortunately they've promised content before and then just pretended they never intended to produce it.

[WanteD1]

I was thinking about this...
Since R* is not talking about next gen update for RDR2...I guess a Expanded and Enhanced version of RDR2 is coming in 2022! (I just hope next gen GTAV and RDR2 will support DLSS on PC! All of new AAA games are DLSS supported except RDR2!)
Also R* said they are not working on SP DLCs for RDR2! they are gonna sell RDR2 next gen update without anything new for 70$ but they will release heist for RDO to hype it!
but i guess next gen RDO standalone will cost less! who knows...it sucks they never release enough information for what the F*ck they are gonna do! f*ck it! their marketing is outdated asf! 

[StyxTx]

4 hours ago, AltiMetro said:

 

Unless they've internally made a commitment to release lots of quality content, to retain the player base they're creating.

I realize that's being optimistic, because it's not in line with the amount of content they've released in the past 12 months.

But I haven't given up all hope

Why wouldn't they release all that quality content for long time users before now? Why target just new users, many of whom won't be around very long anyway because a vast majority of players don't stick with games for years on end. That's just the nature of casual players. Probably because a majority of it will be created in order to get people to buy gold which many long time users have plenty of already.

9 hours ago, Krommer said:

 

"However, 600 gold for a Saint Denis mansion? Some players who have been on the game since launch have never seen so much gold in their lifetimes.

Even some experienced YouTubers that play the game daily would struggle with such astronomical amounts."

 

 

 

I have so much gold is sickening. I have no interest in anything cosmetic so I haven't spent 1 gold for any cosmetic item. I suppose many people use a lot of gold for those type of things. I saved it all up hoping one day there would be something of substance to use it on. Besides, even in real life I like having plenty of reserves of anything.

Edited December 11, 2020 by StyxTx

[Retro_Causality]

 

[4eyedcoupe]

20 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

 

That is interesting, normally I brush all this stuff off, but this guys post reads similar to the guy who posted all the GTA leaks a few years back.  Is it the same guy?  What makes me question everything though, is that is talking "single player"

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by 4eyedcoupe

[Assblaster]

All these new players are funny to watch sometimes. I've seen three players in the last couple of days who got killed by getting too close to my horse. They just keep inching closer and closer until they get thumped. Nothing I've seen was funnier than the guy today who came charging into town at full speed then crashed Evel Knieval style straight into the butcher. 

[StyxTx]

8 minutes ago, Assblaster said:

All these new players are funny to watch sometimes. I've seen three players in the last couple of days who got killed by getting too close to my horse. They just keep inching closer and closer until they get thumped. Nothing I've seen was funnier than the guy today who came charging into town at full speed then crashed Evel Knieval style straight into the butcher. 

Glad to hear there is some entertainment to enjoy!

[CB101683]

1 hour ago, Assblaster said:

All these new players are funny to watch sometimes. I've seen three players in the last couple of days who got killed by getting too close to my horse. They just keep inching closer and closer until they get thumped. Nothing I've seen was funnier than the guy today who came charging into town at full speed then crashed Evel Knieval style straight into the butcher. 

Ive found that with all the new player, I'm forced to kill people over and over till they leave or go passive wayyyyy more than before. I have dumb f*ck new players just take shots at me/ my horse for zero reason and not expect me to bury them. Almost every time now that I'm in a random posse helping out. The second the posse is over I have new players try to immediately shoot me after we've been possed up for like an hour +. I figure killing em over and over is either gonna teach them not to be a f ucking idiot or leave the game all together. Either works for me. But its gonna be like this for a bit now.

Edited December 11, 2020 by _RIORDAN_

[kcole4001]

8 minutes ago, _RIORDAN_ said:

Ive found that with all the new player, I'm forced to kill people over and over till they leave or go passive wayyyyy more than before. I have dumb f*ck new players just take shots at me/ my horse for zero reason and not expect me to bury them. Almost every time now that I'm in a random posse helping out. The second the posse is over I have new players try to immediately shoot me after we've been possed up for like an hour +. I figure killing em over and over is either gonna teach them not to be a f ucking idiot or leave the game all together. Either works for me. But its gonna be like this for a bit now.

Basic common courtesy, like common sense, just isn't all that common.