RDO Next Updates Speculation & General Chat (Part I)

[StyxTx]

 

3 hours ago, ghostsoap01 said:

Not even surprised... We're still in beta. Whichever team works on online needs to take some notes from the single player team. The quality is night and day.

 

Edit: Keep in mind the captial R* has when compared to other studios, and yet somehow the quality still remains so low. Clearly not much of their earnings go back into the game to improve it...

Hardly any money goes to quality programmers and decision makers, that's for sure. I guess they need as much money as they can to pay for those top notch "tech" people.

[Zapper]

Just finished the Halloween Pass. It's ok, nothing more nothing less imo. And that showdown mode is lame as f*ck. It's not even a proper survival mode ffs.

God knows when we'll get some proper content like robberies, properties, new story missions. A share in gold mining business

would be a great addition with some new missions and gameplay mechanics, something more intricate that just metal detector and shovel like collector.

Edited October 20, 2020 by Zapper

[RyuNova]

I still think they are holding back the good stuff for the next consoles. Release the last promised update and they have fulfilled their promises and can drop the weak PS4 and Xbox One like a sack of sh*t.

[ALifeOfMisery]

12 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

I still think they are holding back the good stuff for the next consoles. Release the last promised update and they have fulfilled their promises and can drop the weak PS4 and Xbox One like a sack of sh*t.

I do wonder just how quickly PS4 and XB1 are going to get dropped.

 

I think GTAO has until the E&E edition comes, but with no next gen news as yet for RDR2, who knows?

 

I'd be very surprised if both games are still being supported on what will soon be last gen past the end of 2021.

[AltiMetro]

14 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

I still think they are holding back the good stuff for the next consoles. Release the last promised update and they have fulfilled their promises and can drop the weak PS4 and Xbox One like a sack of sh*t.

are you saying the good stuff will only be playable with one of the new consoles?

[Jason]

If they're holding back the good stuff for next-gen consoles then current gen support has to drop instantly, and that's not going to happen.

 

The standard seems to be like it's 1-2 years of cross-gen support before we'll probably start to see fully next-gen exclusive stuff.

 

So, while I would be delighted to be wrong, I am almost certain in saying that they have nothing they are holding back until next-gen consoles drop.

[ALifeOfMisery]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

If they're holding back the good stuff for next-gen consoles then current gen support has to drop instantly, and that's not going to happen.

 

The standard seems to be like it's 1-2 years of cross-gen support before we'll probably start to see fully next-gen exclusive stuff.

 

So, while I would be delighted to be wrong, I am almost certain in saying that they have nothing they are holding back until next-gen consoles drop.

I'd be more inclined to think R* are holding back content for next gen if a remaster for RDR2 had been announced. Heists and the R* editor would be big selling points for a next gen version.

 

But as things stand we'll be playing the version we already have on next gen indefinitely.

 

I think we'll get around a year or so of cross gen support before the plug gets pulled on anyone who hasn't made the jump to next gen.

[RyuNova]

11 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I'd be very surprised if both games are still being supported on what will soon be last gen past the end of 2021.

 

If I remember right we know that the E&E version of GTAV/O is coming out some time in 2021 so that's a pretty fair guess. My guess is they will drop it very soon after like they did with 360 and PS3.

 

11 minutes ago, AltiMetro said:

are you saying the good stuff will only be playable with one of the new consoles?

 

Yes, faaaar more power to do big set pieces with. The Xbox OneX version of the game is running at full 4K on a laptop CPU. I think we could see Lobby count upped as well to 64 players as well for example.

 

 

[ALifeOfMisery]

Just now, RyuNova said:

If I remember right we know that the E&E version of GTAV/O is coming out some time in 2021 so that's a pretty fair guess. My guess is they will drop it very soon after like they did with 360 and PS3.

A typically vague "second half of 2021" release window.

[StyxTx]

9 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

Yes, faaaar more power to do big set pieces with. The Xbox OneX version of the game is running at full 4K on a laptop CPU. I think we could see Lobby count upped as well to 64 players as well for example.

 

 

New consoles will not fix p2p server issues since you're still depending on some other user's connection. Also, bigger, better things for the game on new consoles doesn't translate into a working game. 2 years in and this version is still broken. I'm more concerned with the game getting even more screwed up than it is now when the new consoles roll out. Screwed up programming is screwed up programming now matter how great the system it's run on and R* has given me no reason to be optimistic about anything they do.

 

Edited October 20, 2020 by StyxTx

[ALifeOfMisery]

6 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

I think we could see Lobby count upped as well to 64 players as well for example.

[Direwrath]

Are the cutscenes for the new showdown mode cool? Or do we even get some? Not so excited about their little pvp and kill some undead things along the way, game they want us to play.

[Jason]

8 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I'd be more inclined to think R* are holding back content for next gen if a remaster for RDR2 had been announced. Heists and the R* editor would be big selling points for a next gen version.

 

But as things stand we'll be playing the version we already have on next gen indefinitely.

 

I think we'll get around a year or so of cross gen support before the plug gets pulled on anyone who hasn't made the jump to next gen.

Yea maybe. What concerns me is that we're something like 3 weeks away from the next-gen launch and we've had no information about how it will be handled for RDRO or GTAO, beyond the GTAV/O re-remaster that had some very vague information - likely cause the plans weren't finalised yet.

 

Character transfers including cross-platform transfers should've been confirmed by now.

[AltiMetro]

2 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

If I remember right we know that the E&E version of GTAV/O is coming out some time in 2021 so that's a pretty fair guess. My guess is they will drop it very soon after like they did with 360 and PS3.

 

 

Yes, faaaar more power to do big set pieces with. The Xbox OneX version of the game is running at full 4K on a laptop CPU. I think we could see Lobby count upped as well to 64 players as well for example.

 

 

I guess we haven't defined what "good stuff" means.

Are they not able to implement certain roles and content we've been asking for on current-gen consoles?

Or does that just not work in full 25-player lobbies?
Or is "good stuff" just several steps ahead in terms of complexity?

I'd be happy with an outlaws & lawman role, extension to trader, several roles along a prospector / oil business / railroad / farmer / fisherman / smuggler / etc. etc.
Along with that features like taming horses, robbing businesses / stagecoaches / trains / etc. etc. etc.
Is none of that possible on current gen?

Love the game but I know almost nothing about how games and coding work, am hoping you'll entertain my basic questions.

[darkmaster234]

1 hour ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I do wonder just how quickly PS4 and XB1 are going to get dropped.

 

I think GTAO has until the E&E edition comes, but with no next gen news as yet for RDR2, who knows?

 

I'd be very surprised if both games are still being supported on what will soon be last gen past the end of 2021.

Red dead probably, i doubt it in gtas case.

[ALifeOfMisery]

43 minutes ago, Jason said:

Yea maybe. What concerns me is that we're something like 3 weeks away from the next-gen launch and we've had no information about how it will be handled for RDRO or GTAO, beyond the GTAV/O re-remaster that had some very vague information - likely cause the plans weren't finalised yet.

 

Character transfers including cross-platform transfers should've been confirmed by now.

I'm concerned enough that I've not traded in my Pro yet.

 

I might be completely wrong, but maybe we'll be playing RDO/GTAO through BC on next gen and just share lobbies with players on PS4/XB1? Surely if we were 3 weeks away from character transfers there would have been some news by now, surely?

 

The main reason I don't think we're heading for a RDO on PC type disaster is that I can't see any way that R* are going to abandon the day 1 GTAO portion of the player base, the backlash from expecting players to abandon 7 year old accounts would be too big to ignore, even for them.

 

I also don't think they can afford to lose the day 1 RDO players. I mean, they obviously can from a financial point of view, because most day 1 players already have enough gold to last through years worth of updates, but it would almost destroy the community surrounding the game. You've only to look at ranks in the player list and trophies on console to see that the casuals don't stick around.

 

I don't know what issues would be thrown up by cross gen play though. PvP is already a sh*tshow, but current gen players would surely be at some disadvantage against next gen players in that regard. Hopefully it wouldn't make disconnections worse than they already are if higher population lobbies are here to stay too.

 

If the (almost) unthinkable happens and there's no character transfer to next gen I think a significant percentage of long term players will abandon the game and I don't know how, or if, RDO recovers from that.

[Jason]

It's daft that they've not announced it yet, but I do fully expect official next-gen transfers. At absolute worst it's like you say, limited to BC and it'll just work, aka play it on PS4, load it up on PS5, and it'll load your character with nothing needed from you. Ideally they allow cross platform transfers like GTAO, to allow the people jumping console family to continue.

 

My actual genuine worry is that they won't offer transfers to PC. If they don't offer that I will not play Red Dead Online ever again, but if they do offer it I'll buy RDR2 on PC soon after the consoles launch. By all accounts PC players have been treated woefully, no transfers, no OP1 catch up, hacker central and missing standard stuff like text chat, so no transfers to PC wouldn't be surprising, it'd just be another thing on growing pile of things PC players have been shafted with.

[CB101683]

  

12 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's daft that they've not announced it yet, but I do fully expect official next-gen transfers. At absolute worst it's like you say, limited to BC and it'll just work, aka play it on PS4, load it up on PS5, and it'll load your character with nothing needed from you. Ideally they allow cross platform transfers like GTAO, to allow the people jumping console family to continue.

 

My actual genuine worry is that they won't offer transfers to PC. If they don't offer that I will not play Red Dead Online ever again, but if they do offer it I'll buy RDR2 on PC soon after the consoles launch. By all accounts PC players have been treated woefully, no transfers, no OP1 catch up, hacker central and missing standard stuff like text chat, so no transfers to PC wouldn't be surprising, it'd just be another thing on growing pile of things PC players have been shafted with.

 

You're right about everything on PC except text chat. I pray every update that rockstar doesn't add that into this game and ruin all the immersion. I play online with barely any hud because you can press down on the d pad and see it. In gta online you cant turn off text chat so I imagine it would be the same here. So I would have to endure little kids fighting over text chat across the map and have no way of removing it. That's one of the reasons I couldn't stand gtao anymore, along with a million other reasons.

Edited October 20, 2020 by _RIORDAN_

[ALifeOfMisery]

20 minutes ago, Jason said:

It's daft that they've not announced it yet, but I do fully expect official next-gen transfers. At absolute worst it's like you say, limited to BC and it'll just work, aka play it on PS4, load it up on PS5, and it'll load your character with nothing needed from you. Ideally they allow cross platform transfers like GTAO, to allow the people jumping console family to continue.

 

My actual genuine worry is that they won't offer transfers to PC. If they don't offer that I will not play Red Dead Online ever again, but if they do offer it I'll buy RDR2 on PC soon after the consoles launch. By all accounts PC players have been treated woefully, no transfers, no OP1 catch up, hacker central and missing standard stuff like text chat, so no transfers to PC wouldn't be surprising, it'd just be another thing on growing pile of things PC players have been shafted with.

It's a struggle for me to comprehend that R* haven't addressed that next gen is coming and what to expect. Even if it's as simple as "you'll be able to continue your progression seamlessly on next gen without character transfer and continue playing with friends who aren't making the switch to next gen yet through cross gen play for the time being".

 

There's no reason I can think of not to say that if it's the case, but we all assumed pre PC launch, I pre ordered, like a clown, planning on moving to PC, if the solo lobbies that never came materialised. We know how that went.

 

I've got a feeling that we might be seeing some very salty (rightly so) players in a few weeks who are switching from PS to XB (and vice versa) for next gen and are going to have to walk away from 2 years worth of progression if they want to continue playing.

 

PC looks more and more like it was a cash grab, and nothing more, to me. No character transfer at launch, no support against menu users and no way to protect yourself using your own hardware, thanks to the edge servers (I presume), mean that RDO is a disaster on PC imo.

Edited October 20, 2020 by ALifeOfMisery

[gtmike]

Protip: If a "AAA" game developer waits a year (plus) to release their game on your platform, it's because they don't give a f*ck about your platform...

 

Edited October 20, 2020 by gtmike

[videotech_]

At least boost the resolution to native 4K on the PS5 - the checkerboard rendering from PS4 Pro is bloody awful.

[Gettin up]

Had a week break from RDO. Do you think it's worth to repair streak now if you plan on playing Cyberpunk 2077?

[ALifeOfMisery]

5 hours ago, VideoTech_ said:

At least boost the resolution to native 4K on the PS5 - the checkerboard rendering from PS4 Pro is bloody awful.

Got to pay for the E&E Edition for that.

[aaron2997]

3 hours ago, Gettin up said:

Had a week break from RDO. Do you think it's worth to repair streak now if you plan on playing Cyberpunk 2077?

I plan on maintaining my streak even after Cyberpunk 2077 comes out. I daily a day takes like 10 minutes.

[Watain]

The halloween stuff is most underwhelming. Sold a few sets to madam Nazar and instantly reached level 20. I was hoping for an Undead Overrun return, instead we got more forced PvP with sh*tty ability cards. As long as they keep those around I'm not gonna bother.

 

I really hope whatever's coming next is gonna be more worthwhile than this halloween pass and OP3 and the Naturalist update, otherwise I see no point in going on with this game any longer.

[RyuNova]

 

How good is that?!

[Tez2]

Reached rank 20 of the Halloween Pass, that was fast. Collector role is really OP.

1 hour ago, Watain said:

instead we got more forced PvP with sh*tty ability cards

As far as I'm aware, ability cards are disabled in the new mode.

[BUT THE BENZ]

17 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

How good is that?!

screensaver material!

[RyuNova]

2 minutes ago, BUT THE BENZ said:

screensaver material!

 

Tempted to print these out on glossy paper and make reversible covers for my GTAV and RDO games. After a little Photoshop to correct the console names.

Edited October 21, 2020 by RyuNova

[Piro]

35 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

Spoiler

 

How good is that?!

Cursed Images! He's a witch! burn him!