RDO Next Updates Speculation & General Chat (Part I)

[waleed675773p]

45 minutes ago, AdamNortonUK said:

I don't have information on any future content other than the Naturalist Role, as I can only get the information by what currently is in the game files. Rockstar are unlikely to spoil a future role by adding it to the game files early, and also the next role likely hasn't been thought or finalised yet. Rockstar could also change direction half way through anything they are currently working on so even if information for a future role were in the files, it could be scraped or removed at any time.

It's unlikely there will be any type of generation jump, as RDO is set before RDR2 story, and most of the missions currently contain characters that are dead by the end of RDR2 so it's unlikely to happen, as missions will need to be removed or rewritten so it is my opinion that there won't be any jump in the timeline and I don't think there needs to be.

As I've said before, some of my posts are my own opinion, or what I've found from going through the information and assets contained in the game files and I will always link anything I've found that may be of interest or to confirm anything.

 

 

 

 

I forgot to add to the list of Legendary Animal images, that some are Legendary Animals' currently only available from Harriet.

I haven't been able to find information relating to whether these will eventually be able to spawn in Free Roam at the end of the Drip Feed.

again, thank you for your work in analyzing files from rdo to give us all the news .

[Kirsty]

Thanks for the files Adam, that lovely new panther/jaguar makes a nice avatar 

[Potter145]

Okay guys, so since we kinda already know what to expect until October and for Halloween, let's do some fun predictions for the December update later this year.

 

The "exciting enhancements and augmentations for an existing role" R* talked about will be for the Bounty Hunter imo.

And I think before that, in October, we will get a smaller update for the Collector, not introducing a new role, but general improvements and some new content, like cooperative collections.

Moonshiner was the trader expansion last December.

And this December the next step will be becoming a deputy.

All that is required is Bounty Hunter rank 5 and good honor status.

Then you can become a deputy for 25 Gold Bars.

It will feature a new property, upgrades to the property and new gameplay including survivals.

 

What do you guys expect from the enhancements and augmentations for an existing role?

Edited August 16, 2020 by executor404

[BUT THE BENZ]

you forgot all about the LANDLORD role

[ALifeOfMisery]

2 hours ago, executor404 said:

let's do some fun predictions for the December update later this year.

I'm not going to predict anything, but all I'm really hoping for is personal properties.

 

Nothing big like a ranch, I'll be happy for that to come later, but I think we're past living outdoors now. Shacks, cabins, hotel rooms, Saint Denis apartments, that kind of thing.

[waleed675773p]

4 hours ago, executor404 said:

What do you guys expect from the enhancements and augmentations for an existing role?

i expect the lawman / outlaw role.

somebody in this fourm has previously said how this role plays. 

we can buy a schriff office we can provide workers we can buy deliver wagen and weapons (so shoot wagen) and we should like a story mission in rdo that where man must protect valntein ,protect the city and put people to fight us we could as  protect like banks, post offices, ....... and we could arrest or kill gangs.

 Like the story Mission by rdo bank, the outlwa role is also called in sant denis. 

we have to make preparations or plan beforehand.

we could buy a probertis to start the mission from there we could have various vehicles like a balloon and weapons and skills and things that help us complete the heist quickly and easily. 

or do you have ideas how the roles could be?

Edited August 16, 2020 by waleed675773p

[Direwrath]

1 hour ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I'm not going to predict anything, but all I'm really hoping for is personal properties.

 

Nothing big like a ranch, I'll be happy for that to come later, but I think we're past living outdoors now. Shacks, cabins, hotel rooms, Saint Denis apartments, that kind of thing.

Also when we get that new property, Cripps is not allowed and I take my dog with me. Sorry, Cripps but you done ruined our relationship with your camp thievery and boring stories. 

[ALifeOfMisery]

19 minutes ago, Direwrath said:

Also when we get that new property, Cripps is not allowed and I take my dog with me. Sorry, Cripps but you done ruined our relationship with your camp thievery and boring stories. 

If and when we get personal properties I don't want any NPC near them. 

 

I don't want any stories that I'll hear a thousand times, in fact, I don't want any talking of any kind. No strangers that actually own the property I'm paying gold for either.

 

If we can "own" hotel rooms, I'll accept the hotel owner/receptionist being downstairs and a maid/bath wench to be available upon request, but that's it, and I'd still prefer for them to be mute or at least only speak when required.

 

But if I can have a shack up in the snow, I want silence and solitude, with the exception of my dog, because f*ck Cripps, he deserves the company less than I want it.

Edited August 16, 2020 by ALifeOfMisery

[Guns a-Blazin]

On 8/16/2020 at 7:03 PM, executor404 said:

Okay guys, so since we kinda already know what to expect until October and for Halloween, let's do some fun predictions for the December update later this year.

I know this DLC won't be coming in December but hopefully it does come out in the near future...

 

Title: The Crimes Of Saint Denis Update

 

"Due to a massive surge in crimes, the city of Saint Denis has seen the demands for luxury goods and special services hit an all time low. Angelo Bronte, a successful businessman, needs your help and is willing to pay you anything you want for eliminating rival gangs and releasing pressure off of his international working-class business. By working for Bronte, you can explore the criminal underworld of Saint Denis, delve deep into hidden secrets of the past and start some surprising new business ventures in this exciting new chapter of Red Dead Online".

 

Content:

 

• 6 Main Story Missions that involves Angelo Bronte, Catherine Braithwaite and Henri Lemieux
• 2 New Roles (Bare Knuckle Fighter & Illegal Trader)
• 1 Purchasable Business Property (The Underground Bare Knuckle Fighting Club) in the slums of Saint Denis
• 4 Customisable Mansions & 6 Customisable Apartments located in Saint Denis
• 2 Weapons added from SM (The M1899 Pistol & The Ornate Dagger)
• 1 Piece of Transportation (The Bicycle)
• 50+ Clothing (More Luxury Clothes) 
• 3 New Emotes ("Italian Pinched Fingers" , "Flexing Your Muscles" & "Punching The Air" ) 
• Josiah Trelawny moving to Saint Denis on a permanent basis for the rest of RDO 
• The ability to get away with crimes in Saint Denis (Bronte has connections with the Lawmen) 
• The ability to go on the Saint Denis Riverboat and have gambling tournaments

 

What do you guys think? Would this be a good DLC for RDO?

Edited August 18, 2020 by FortifiedGooner86

[IzzyBlues]

14 hours ago, AdamNortonUK said:

For those asking how many Legendary Animals there are in total.

 

There are 14 different types of Legendary Animals and 3 different breeds for each Legendary Animal type, making 42 Legendary Animals overall.

 

In the spoiler tags below are all the black and white images of each legendary from the game.

 

There also enough Legendary Animals in the drip feed to take us right up until the last week in October, so those wanting to complete all LAs will be in for a wait and it is also only going to continue to be two per week, with the 3rd of each Legendary Animal type being released in the final week(s).

Note: Some Legendary Animals are PS4 exclusive, which are the Legendary Rams currently from the information I have available to me, some others could be PS4 exclusive but the Legendary Rams are only known to be PS4 exclusive at this time.

Edit: Also some of images are Legendary Animals' currently only available from Harriet, I haven't been able to confirm whether these will eventually be able to spawn in Free Roam.

Legendary Alligator

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Legendary Bear

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 Legendary Beaver

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 Legendary Bison

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 Legendary Boar

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Legendary Buck

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Legendary Cougar

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Legendary Elk

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Legendary Wolf

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To further add on, or accompany the evidence in this post, I did some digging and found some audio files of Harriet briefing the character on these new animals when you start a mission. When she briefs you on some of these animals, she references some areas that she will send you to such as Blackwater or Strawberry. Interestingly enough, there are mentions of a bird and a fish that she wants you to track down, however this might be cut content. There are also voice lines in regards to marking new locations on your map (I can't remember if we are already hearing this dialogue in game but I've included them in the video anyway).

 

This took me a very long time to compile and go through, and I'm sure I've missed a few but these are the most notable ones that I can find, or at least I think I haven't heard play in game yet when you speak to her. After listening to her voice lines, I find it weird that she has such a huge hate boner for Gus and she doesn't seem to want to send you after him to kill him, but she sends you to kill some random poachers. Anyway...

 

 

I believe the Naturalist trailer itself showcases some of the mini cutscenes that we will be seeing if we do those missions for the first time. The beaver and the fox footage shown in that trailer are the cutscenes the player see's when they trigger the mission for the first time from Harriet. There is also the panther/jaguar we see at the very start of the trailer. I'll link the trailer below as a reference.

 

 

This was the case when Rockstar dropped the "Frontier Pursuits" trailer last year and we saw footage of Yukon, who was a legendary bounty that was dripfed towards the final weeks of that 10 week dripfeed.

 

*On a side/unrelated note, I will be making an extended mix of the music used in the Naturalist trailer and a second remix of the theme that'll be very surprising and interesting to listen to, I hope to get these both out by the end of the week.

 

To summarize everything we can speculate or guess from here on now on what to expect from the rest of the year;

- Current dripfeed of legendary animals (when this will last, I'm not so sure but my guess is by December)

- Halloween Outlaw Pass in October possibly featuring a new game mode if the 2 new pieces of music I uploaded is anything to go off by

- Mid December update, augmentation of a current role

 

As to what I personally think, next year we will possibly hear of a next-gen version announcement of Red Dead Redemption 2 (not sure when) but I just know that they will probably drop a major update for the online component either just before, or slightly after that releases. I'm suspecting this is when online will finally get it's "heists update" moment.

 

What I'm really concerned about though, is the mid 2021 GTA V Next-Gen release schedule, and how that fits into the inevitable re-release of RDR2 for next-gen consoles. I have a feeling online updates will slow down mid next year again. But again, this is Rockstar we are talking about, and I've said it before, they have proved themselves to be completely unpredictable. So we will just have to wait and see. 2021 is going to be a very interesting year, in regards to things slowly returning to normal. I know studios are beginning to start filming again soon, with them to be released in 2021, so I can only imagine motion capture studios will have these restrictions lifted in the same order of manner as well.

Edited August 17, 2020 by IzzyBlues93

[CrissRiot]

15 minutes ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

To summarize everything we can speculate or guess from here on now on what to expect from the rest of the year;

- Current dripfeed of legendary animals (when this will last, I'm not so sure but my guess is by December)

- Halloween Outlaw Pass in October possibly featuring a new game mode if the 2 new pieces of music I uploaded is anything to go off by

- Mid December update, augmentation of a current role

Legitimately the best/most-accurate guess tbh. Hoping there is at least a fix patch before Halloween however.

 

Rockstar love August/Dec updates.

Edited August 16, 2020 by CrissRiot

[CosmicBuffalo]

9 hours ago, AdamNortonUK said:

At this moment in time, it's a bit of both, but considering they did the same type of drip feed with Legendary Bounty Missions, it make sense that they would do this, but even if they don't at the end of the drip feed all 42 LAs will be available in free roam anyway and since the LA missions are random each time, the drip feed LAs should eventually be moved there also much like the Legendary Bounties that were moved back to the Bounty Boards once all the content from the drip feed had finished.

Waiting for them to appear on Harriet would be more controllable than playing waiting for a random event to happen.  There is a reason R* removed armored truck spawns and its corresponding tattoo award from GTAO because their random event spawn program does not work.  It barely works for animals in this game which are the equivalent to no npcs in GTAO if npcs had some sort of value, which they dont but it would be weird to play in Los Santos without them.  Yet in RDO we have played for over 7 months without animals.  So to think that I have to random event my way to 40ish animals makes me cringe.  And honestly, make me quit this game for good.  

 

Knowing Harriet will have them makes the drip feed some what bearable, I assumed that when the gators were not added to Harriets lists they would not be added.

Edited August 17, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo

[CrissRiot]

4 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

Waiting to for them to appear on Harriet would be more controllable than playing waiting for a random event to happen.  There is a reason R* removed armored truck spawns an the tattoo  award from GTAO because their random event spawn program does not work.  It barely works for animals in this game which are the equivalent to no npcs in GTAO if npcs had some sort of value, which they dont but it would be weird to play in Los Santos without them.  Yet in RDO we have played for over 7 months without animals.  So to think that I have to random event my way to 40ish animals makes me cringe.  And honestly, make me quit this game for good.  

 

Knowing Harriet will have them makes the drip feed some what bearable, I assumed that when the gators were not added to Harriets lists they would not be added.

Honestly, I hope they just rotate them in, kinda like the Moonshine buy list.

Edited August 17, 2020 by CrissRiot

[vault28]

I wouldn't get your hopes up for a bundle of properties in December, I think that'll be saved for an update of a bigger scale. I don't see December's update being any bigger than Moonshiners, but bigger than Naturalist, just speculation though.

 

Regardless it will be an extension of Collector, Lawman/sheriff, or something new i.e. Fisherman.

[CrissRiot]

9 minutes ago, vault28 said:

I wouldn't get your hopes up for a bundle of properties in December, I think that'll be saved for an update of a bigger scale. I don't see December's update being any bigger than Moonshiners, but bigger than Naturalist, just speculation though.

 

Regardless it will be an extension of Collector, Lawman/sheriff, or something new i.e. Fisherman.

Properties is something I don't think we will see for a lonnnnnnnnng time.

[vault28]

3 minutes ago, CrissRiot said:

Properties is something I don't think we will see for a lonnnnnnnnng time.

Eh, depends on your definition of long. I could easily see them being added in the next two years, maybe sooner considering quarentine.

[Lonely-Martin]

Properties are a pretty highly requested feature that R* intend to add.

 

So they'll be part of the bait to get folk to buy on next gen.

[Rev. Gnash]

1 hour ago, FortifiedGooner86 said:

Title: The Crimes Of Saint Denis Update

 

What do you guys think? Would this be a good DLC for RDO?

[GEИESIS]

1 hour ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Properties are a pretty highly requested feature that R* intend to add.

 

So they'll be part of the bait to get folk to buy on next gen.

If that's the case that's pretty scummy

[Direwrath]

35 minutes ago, GEИESIS said:

If that's the case that's pretty scummy

This is R* we are talking about. To them it's just business. 

[AdamNortonUK]

7 hours ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

To further add on, or accompany the evidence in this post, I did some digging and found some audio files of Harriet briefing the character on these new animals when you start a mission. When she briefs you on some of these animals, she references some areas that she will send you to such as Blackwater or Strawberry. Interestingly enough, there are mentions of a bird and a fish that she wants you to track down, however this might be cut content. T

Since fish and birds and even domesticated animals are listed in the online version of the Compendium I've found, single player has a different one of its own. It's highly likely these will come in the future. 

Whether it comes as add-on content for the Naturalist Role remains to be seen, but it could be that Rockstar have decided to cut fish and birds from the Naturalist Role, so that it looks like new content for an additional role instead.

Edited August 17, 2020 by AdamNortonUK

[ALifeOfMisery]

46 minutes ago, AdamNortonUK said:

Since fish and birds and even domesticated animals are listed in the online version of the Compendium I've found, single player has a different one of it's own. It's highly likely these will come in the future. 

Whether it comes as add-on content for the Naturalist Role remains to be seen, but it could be that Rockstar have decided to cut fish and birds from the Naturalist Role, so that it looks like new content for an additional role instead.

I know many players find it boring, but I would really like a Role expansion that brought fishing, and Legendary Fish, into the whole Trader group of Roles.

[fryday]

26 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I know many players find it boring, but I would really like a Role expansion that brought fishing, and Legendary Fish, into the whole Trader group of Roles.

Fishing needs more Love in General. They cant be used for cripps, they cant be used for Gus,  No legendaries etc

[AdamNortonUK]

Ok, for some reason the last two Free Roam Events I've played which was Salvage and Free Legendary Animal I was the only person in both Free Roam Events... and it was highly difficult, managed to complete both and ended up with 35 collectibles from Salvage and 132 kills in Free Legendary Animal...

 

The Legendary Animal was a lot more difficult than Salvage though due to the damn Toxic Moonshiner and that I had to keep getting out of the way of the Sun Gator to avoid getting eaten and dealing with my Horse going nuts and bucking me countless times, although the Sun Gator did help with some on of the NPEs.

I rarely play the Free Roam Events, but did so today for the Daily Challenge so it seems that for some Free Roam Events if you're lucky (or unlucky) you can at least play some alone if there are issues with connecting to other players, and no I wasn't using any solo lobby tool or glitch(es) either before some of the trolls come out and play I was in a nearly full lobby before each event.

Edited August 17, 2020 by AdamNortonUK

[ALifeOfMisery]

1 hour ago, fryday said:

Fishing needs more Love in General. They cant be used for cripps, they cant be used for Gus,  No legendaries etc

I don't know whether it's still the case or not, but a while ago, if you went to the Butcher's Table at camp with a large fish such as a Northern Pike stowed on your horse it would show up with a materials value, but would be greyed out and, obviously, not selectable.

 

That gives me a little hope that at least large fish might get added to what we can donate to Cripps in future if we do get a Role that involves fishing.

 

As for Legendary Fish, I can't see any good reason to not add them to RDO at some point. From R*s perspective they're easy content as they're all there in SP.

 

The rewards might be an issue for Online, like how do you make Legendary Fish rewarding other than from a completionist point of view? Can't really make anything out of them like what can be done with Legendary Animal pelts. Maybe make a trophy wall in our Moonshine Shack or in a future personal property where we can display mounted Legendary Fish we have caught?

 

Actually that would have been a cool option for the Legendary Animals, I'd rather mount their heads than wear them.

Edited August 17, 2020 by ALifeOfMisery

[waleed675773p]

1 hour ago, AdamNortonUK said:

Ok, for some reason the last two Free Roam Events I've played which was Salvage and Free Legendary Animal I was the only person in both Free Roam Events... and it was highly difficult, managed to complete both and ended up with 35 collectibles from Salvage and 132 kills in Free Legendary Animal...

 

The Legendary Animal was a lot more difficult than Salvage though due to the damn Toxic Moonshiner and that I had to keep getting out of the way of the Sun Gator to avoid getting eaten and dealing with my Horse going nuts and bucking me countless times, although the Sun Gator did help with some on of the NPEs.

I rarely play the Free Roam Events, but did so today for the Daily Challenge so it seems that for some Free Roam Events if you're lucky (or unlucky) you can at least play some alone if there are issues with connecting to other players, and no I wasn't using any solo lobby tool or glitch(es) either before some of the trolls come out and play I was in a nearly full lobby before each event.

I have this in time before the update

[darkmaster234]

13 hours ago, FortifiedGooner86 said:

I know this DLC won't be coming in December but hopefully it does come out in the near future...

 

Title: The Crimes Of Saint Denis Update

 

"Due to a massive surge in crimes, the city of Saint Denis has seen the demands for luxury goods and special services hit an all time low. Angelo Bronte, a successful businessman, needs your help and is willing to pay you anything you want for eliminating rival gangs and releasing pressure off of his international working-class business. By working for Bronte you can explore the criminal underworld of Saint Denis, uncover big secrets from the past and start some surprising new business ventures in this exciting new chapter of Red Dead Online".

 

Content:

 

• 6 Main Story Missions that involves Angelo Bronte, Catherine Braithwaite and Henri Lemieux
• 2 New Roles (Bare Knuckle Fighter & Illegal Trader)
• 1 Purchasable Business Property (The Underground Bare Knuckle Fighting Club) in the slums of Saint Denis
• 4 Customisable Mansions & 6 Customisable Apartments located in Saint Denis
• 2 Weapons added from SM (The M1899 Pistol & The Ornate Dagger)
• 1 piece of Transportation (The Bicycle) 
• 50+ Clothing (e.g. More Luxury Clothes)
• 3 New Emotes ("Italian Pinched Fingers" , "Flexing Your Muscles"   & "Punching The Air" )
• The ability to get away with crimes in Saint Denis (Bronte has connections with the Lawmen)
• The ability to go on the Saint Denis Riverboat and have gambling tournaments  

 

What do you guys think? Would this be a good DLC for RDO?

Too good to be true, the bycicle may be a little too over the top as it would be a complete new code... and we know they are prone to screw a lot... other than that, this is what a AAA game deserves. You should send this thing to rockstar rdo mail, this people need to emulate creativity for once.

5 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I know many players find it boring, but I would really like a Role expansion that brought fishing, and Legendary Fish, into the whole Trader group of Roles.

The thing is it should be a secondary role, with another one more action -oriented at its side as frontiers update did. Collector is a great role, but people would have been bored within a couple of weeks if it had come alone.

[Rokushakubo]

1 hour ago, darkmaster234 said:

Collector is a great role, but people would have been bored within a couple of weeks if it had come alone.

It took me months before I got bored of $2.5k a day.  

[yeezy203]

Just found out that legendary animal (for Gus' coats) missions can come from Harriet. What a pleasant surprise because I've had no luck whatsoever finding them in free roam. Finally got the moonstone wolf coat.

[aaron2997]

Personally I'd like to see a Pugilist role. The fistfighting mechanic in this game is pretty good, it would be a shame if they just didn't do anything with it.

 

Perhaps the gameplay would have two strands similar to the Naturalist (minus getting sprayed in the face). You'd have official fights and underground fights. Official fights might have you earn more gold, less money, and have plenty of rules (no kicking or tackling). Whereas the underground fights earn you more money, no gold, and have no rules (someone may throw in a knife or just jump in). There could be ladder matches and Legendary Fighters that you'd need a certain number of wins in a row to have to take on. 

 

The progression could have us learn new fighting moves similar to how you do in Bully. If they do that, they wouldn't have to remap buttons (i.e. to uppercut was hold B or Square). This isn't exactly super polished, but it's always something I've thought about when going around challenging NPCs to fist fights.