RDO Next Updates Speculation & General Chat (Part I)

[4eyedcoupe]

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[*Lola]

1 hour ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

If we get news next week I will eat my own ass.

[Tez2]

The strange bit is that Rockstar is yet to update qabeta3, this usually happens when a developer is done with a final build and switches to the quality assurance stage.

Obviously, it could be nothing, Rockstar must have their own internal development environment, it's not like Steam is the main one, they have to test the consoles too, so maybe it's just a case of having issues with Steam or something stopping them from updating.

Edited June 19, 2020 by Fun 2

[Jason]

13 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

The strange bit is that Rockstar is yet to update qabeta3, this usually happens when a developer is done with a final build and switches to the quality assurance stage.

Obviously, it could be nothing, Rockstar must have their own internal development environment, it's not like Steam is the main one, they have to test the consoles too, so maybe it's just a case of having issues with Steam or something stopping them from updating.

Could be related to the Coronavirus situation, I know there's some studios using a cloud solution to Q&A right now, using stuff like Stadia. That's where the test builds could be right now.

[Tez2]

25 minutes ago, Jason said:

Could be related to the Coronavirus situation, I know there's some studios using a cloud solution to Q&A right now, using stuff like Stadia. That's where the test builds could be right now.

If that was the case, we wouldn't have seen weekly updates to qabeta3, the cloud solutions you mentioned were being used since April or May, but Rockstar kept updating builds on Steam, so why would they change up the procedure now when it could have happened weeks ago?

Edited June 19, 2020 by Fun 2

[Spider-Vice]

26 minutes ago, Jason said:

Could be related to the Coronavirus situation, I know there's some studios using a cloud solution to Q&A right now, using stuff like Stadia. That's where the test builds could be right now.

Steam can also be used for QA, that's what the password protected branches do too, as they can be accessed from anywhere.

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Steam can also be used for QA, that's what the password protected branches do too, as they can be accessed from anywhere.

Steam Cloud, though?

 

The issue devs are running into is getting test builds onto dev/tester's PC's. Not everyone has a high end gaming PC at home, not everyone has a really good connection, etc.

[Spider-Vice]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Steam Cloud, though?

 

The issue devs are running into is getting test builds onto dev/tester's PC's. Not everyone has a high end gaming PC at home, not everyone has a really good connection, etc.

Ah I see what you mean. I think Rockstar are using virtualisation/remote control for that, so they can access their studio stuff and likely even test games.

[IzzyBlues]

Y'all are forgetting that the mocap work still needs to be done, and I'm doubting that it's actually done. I don't know what the restrictions are like, wherever they are doing it, but I don't think we're gonna be seeing anything substantial for a long time.

[Spider-Vice]

Mocap is done in NYC, so it depends what restrictions (or lack thereof) they have.

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

Y'all are forgetting that the mocap work still needs to be done, and I'm doubting that it's actually done. I don't know what the restrictions are like, wherever they are doing it, but I don't think we're gonna be seeing anything substantial for a long time.

Yea I haven't forgotten about that either. Q&A, voice work and mo-cap work is the big stumbling block for many studios right now.

[IzzyBlues]

According to the nyc.gov website, phase 2 is in motion at the moment for restrictions to be easing and offices will reopen on the 22nd of June. Whether or not R* employees will return to their offices is another matter entirely, but so long as the mocap isn't done then we have no idea when it's coming. Based on that fact alone I'm not expecting a significant update like a role addition such as the Moonshiners update that had their own story cut scenes, VA work etc, to come out this year. I've stopped paying attention to these qabeta updates because so far they have proven to mean f*ck all save for a PC patch to fix random crap.

 

In the meantime, I'm gonna go back to drawing dicks in VR.

 

 

[Buddy Hightower]

RDO doesn't stand a chance, it's not popular enough.

Even here at the forums, it's just a sub-forum of GTA

Current viewers in RDO forum = 66 Total (27 members, 2 anonymous, 37 Guests)

Current viewers in GTAO forum = 884 Total (66m, 3a, 815 GUESTS!!!!)

 

If you were rockstar where would you invest resources?

[RS123]

1 hour ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

Y'all are forgetting that the mocap work still needs to be done, and I'm doubting that it's actually done. I don't know what the restrictions are like, wherever they are doing it, but I don't think we're gonna be seeing anything substantial for a long time.

Maybe they ended up doing the mo cap in another city or country entirely because of the pandemic, some countries aren’t as hard hit, so not as many restrictions 

[IzzyBlues]

Just now, RS123 said:

Maybe they ended up doing the mo cap in another city or country entirely because of the pandemic, some countries aren’t as hard hit, so not as many restrictions 

How on earth would they achieve that with the flight restrictions and the border closures?

[Wunderlicht20]

we will see next week for some info or another Pc Patch coming very soon

[CosmicBuffalo]

1 hour ago, Buddy Hightower said:

RDO doesn't stand a chance, it's not popular enough.

Even here at the forums, it's just a sub-forum of GTA

Current viewers in RDO forum = 66 Total (27 members, 2 anonymous, 37 Guests)

Current viewers in GTAO forum = 884 Total (66m, 3a, 815 GUESTS!!!!)

 

If you were rockstar where would you invest resources?

 

The reason GTAO was popular was not because of R* its because of fans and players...if it was because of R*, red dead online would be raking in millions.  Did R* provide the setting and give players a ton of tools to work with.yes, and red dead online is actually an example where R* limited players, no creators because players will cheat, no director mode because players will cheat, no invite/solo lobbies player wont buy mtx, red dead could be so much more, but its surviving because of dedicated players/fans and rockstar single player magic...if they piss off the fans, less will play their games in the future. 

 

Spoiler

Nonrisk seems like this was fully embraced with their recent announcement...meaning...keep the game we know has players alive, the problem is...the game is stale...most people play the game to mess around...they should just add a car, plane or interesting vehicles every week for another 2 years and make a new new game or make their newest game better.  They will probably make the same amount from shark cards.  But that's risky, and businesses prefer to take less risks, which is why GTAO is great...it was built on taking risks and taking things to the limit, but 7 years later...its pc..stale and corporate.  RDR2 was ballsy and risky as hell, the online has not panned out, but its far from a loss, so I think they should keep doing that until they hit it big again.

 

Most people get it...however, R* has feasted on the children and whales long enough.  Its time to move on...GTAO should no longer be receiving updates.  They had actually done this somewhat. They were splitting GTAO and RDO.   I think GTAO had 2 updates last year, but R* has gone from making games to making money.  It might be smart business wise in the short term, but long time fans and players are noticing. 

 

[Potter145]

Since they couldn't do certain things (like mocap) for the update because of the lockdown, I think they did everything (else) they could do in their home environment, even for other future updates in advance.

 

So there is the possibility that as soon as they return to their offices, they finish everything up and merge it with the other stuff they created during this time period. So the update will be significantly larger than originally planned. This comes naturally of course, since they had 3 more months dev time.

 

Late July is my guess. If they can start mocap and return to their offices next week, give them another 4 weeks. I also expect an announcement early July (from July 2-7).

 

This is just my theory though. I thought that if they don't announce anything by this past tuesday, the next update will launch in July. So since they didn't announce anything, I believe it will be July. And together with the lifted restrictions I think they want to do the other stuff not possible from home as well.

 

So this makes me believe July 28 will be the next possible update date.

 

I also think they want to announce it a couple weeks in advance (around 3 weeks), not just one week.

Edited June 19, 2020 by executor404

[Buddy Hightower]

I see no major updates to RDO or GTAO till 2021

Virus + BLM + Next Gen = perfect storm

[Potter145]

1 minute ago, Buddy Hightower said:

I see no major updates to RDO or GTAO till 2021

Virus + BLM + Next Gen = perfect storm

 

So the CEO just recently said there will be multiple updates for RDO this year.

 

But I guess he doesn't know much about the RDO development pipeline lol

[BUT THE BENZ]

4 hours ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

Y'all are forgetting that the mocap work still needs to be done, and I'm doubting that it's actually done.

nah man, that has all been done a long time ago! even before BETA if you ask me! roles were there from the start aswell. it was the very core of ONLINE on their sketchboard or whatever. R* and TT just decided to stretch this one out (with nothing new in the pipe) and call the "additions" introduced down the road "updates". very f*cking meh!

[Buddy Hightower]

38 minutes ago, executor404 said:

 

So the CEO just recently said there will be multiple updates for RDO this year.

 

But I guess he doesn't know much about the RDO development pipeline lol

They say a lot of sh*t they never deliver.... 

and multiple updates can mean anything.

[RS123]

Why does everyone act like R* only has a studio in NY. They have development teams around the world, I’m sure they ended up doing mocap somewhere the restrictions and virus wasn’t as bad. 

[IzzyBlues]

People need to stop reading so deeply into those investor calls. They are unreliable and a honeypot trap for speculators to fall into. And these "multiple updates" they speak of could literally mean the steaming diarrhea that we have been getting for 6 months.

[GTAJip]

51 minutes ago, Buddy Hightower said:

I see no major updates to RDO or GTAO till 2021

Virus + BLM + Next Gen = perfect storm

Lol even with the virus delaying stuff this still is impossible, there are AAA games that are being released right now and also updates for other games that are coming out. 

[TagoKG]

Well if cyberpunk can arrive this year that's a stfu for R* and their laziness

[Potter145]

1 hour ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

People need to stop reading so deeply into those investor calls. They are unreliable and a honeypot trap for speculators to fall into. And these "multiple updates" they speak of could literally mean the steaming diarrhea that we have been getting for 6 months.

He specifically mentioned content updates the likes of Moonshiners.

 

At least 2 content updates are coming this year.

Some of the answers I get by citing the T2 CEO are so predictable and too easy.

When he says there will be RDO content update this year, there will be.

Someone please proof when T2 CEO lied about content updates. He doesn't even benefit from it if it turns out to be wrong, and the investors wouldn't trust him anymore.

Edited June 19, 2020 by executor404

[Jason]

1 hour ago, RS123 said:

Why does everyone act like R* only has a studio in NY. They have development teams around the world, I’m sure they ended up doing mocap somewhere the restrictions and virus wasn’t as bad. 

"Around the world"... It's four countries. The UK, the US, Canada and India. They aren't doing motion capture or voice work in India, which leaves three countries that are just now easing lockdown rules.

 

Secondly even if they did have access to other mo-cap facilities, and they do I believe, in LA albeit that was for RDR1 if memory serves, they can't just casually fly the people they need to do this stuff around... cause, ya'know, lockdown.

 

tl;dr people talk about it because it's actually f*cking important. Tons of industry figures have spoken about how mo-cap is basically impossible right now.

[Lonely-Martin]

16 minutes ago, executor404 said:

When he says there will be RDO content update this year, there will be.

Someone please proof when T2 CEO lied about content updates.

Is that person the same one that said GTA V story DLC was in their plans?

 

Genuine question that. I do agree with you that, for better or worse, this game will get content this year. But if it was the same person/team that once said GTA V's story was to be updated, that would answer the question of weather they can spin a yarn.

1 hour ago, TagoKG said:

Well if cyberpunk can arrive this year that's a stfu for R* and their laziness

That's a big if, lol. I read it got delayed again I believe.

[RS123]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

"Around the world"... It's four countries. The UK, the US, Canada and India. They aren't doing motion capture or voice work in India, which leaves three countries that are just now easing lockdown rules.

 

Secondly even if they did have access to other mo-cap facilities, and they do I believe, in LA albeit that was for RDR1 if memory serves, they can't just casually fly the people they need to do this stuff around... cause, ya'know, lockdown.

 

tl;dr people talk about it because it's actually f*cking important. Tons of industry figures have spoken about how mo-cap is basically impossible right now.

What if they hired a third party company to do the mocap? Maybe they used whatever actors were in those areas, pretty sure they can fly people using private jets, not saying they did that I’m just saying they probably could. I also think a developer as big as R* has their own mocap studio that they can open and close at anytime they want. I’m not saying they did any of that, I just don’t think mocap would be the thing stopping them, I think the issue might be bigger.