RDO Next Updates Speculation & General Chat (Part I)

[Leftover Pizza]

Well, at least they did something about the KKK spawners on PC rapidly. 

[Lonely-Martin]

3 hours ago, executor404 said:

 

I understand. But we will get at least 2 updates this year.

 

In January Rockstar stated in their newswire, where they talked about GTAO and RDO success, that RDO updates that expand the roles are coming this year and linked to the vg24/7 article that talked about photography, lawmen, industrialists and robberies.

Then in February they talked with Polygon in an interview and talked about some things that could be coming next including expanding the collector and communal spaces.

 

And just a few weeks ago (late May) at the T2 investor call, T2 said their will be multiple RDO updates this year.

 

It could be 2, maybe July and December, maybe June and November.

It could also be 3, like June, September, December etc....

 

I understand the frustation, their communication is sh*t, but updates are still coming.

I'd not put too much faith in that Polygon stuff. From their recent post...

 

21 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said:

"It is no mistake that Red Dead Redemption 2, even after selling tremendously well, has not received single-player expansions — but plenty of Online updates"

... in their recent criticism of GTA V/O's news of the remaster. (I copied my quote from the GTA O section's pinned thread about the remaster, the link is there).

 

If they think this game has had plenty of updates, they're idiots.

Edited June 17, 2020 by Lonely-Martin

[Buddy Hightower]

8 hours ago, TagoKG said:

i'm only waiting for cyberpunk 2077 and see ya RDO

That's when RDO will release another update....

I don't really care, I just want them to fix the graphics in story-mode on xbox.

[roggek]

2 hours ago, Nugsy said:

You say this, or rather shout it in a bold font, but saying something many times doesn't make it true.

So I ask, you say this on what authority? Help prove it's true as a statement rather than merely your opinion.

As the "next gen consoles" are released within 5-6 months, R* can use the technical benefits of them.
Why bother to do a "major update" in RDO for old consoles?

 

Thats my statement, and I'm pretty sure it's so near the truth we can get...So until then we have to wait...

Edited June 17, 2020 by roggek

[Tez2]

The last update to qabeta3 makes me feel like it was built as the final build aka preparing for release, but instances like these happened before and it turned out to be nothing. I always keep a quarter of hope for such instances, but there's a high chance it turns out to be nothing again, so don't expect much.

[Leftover Pizza]

1 minute ago, Fun 2 said:

The last update to qabeta3 makes me feel like it was built as the final build aka preparing for release, but instances like these happened before and it turned out to be nothing. I always keep a quarter of hope for such instances, but there's a high chance it turns out to be nothing again, so don't expect much.

any chance this was the patch that makes spawning KKK npcs impossible and leave every other mod in, on PC?

 

[IzzyBlues]

38 minutes ago, Fun 2 said:

The last update to qabeta3 makes me feel like it was built as the final build aka preparing for release

[TagoKG]

2 hours ago, Buddy Hightower said:

That's when RDO will release another update....

I don't really care, I just want them to fix the graphics in story-mode on xbox.

unless is 3 roles like frontier pursuits  , do you think all people who stop playing will back for photography role lol no.

 

by curiosity yes but for stay playing no

[Wunderlicht20]

i hope for july for some Info or R.I.P R* look at the playerbase on Steam 11k play this game currently

Edited June 17, 2020 by Wunderlicht20

[TagoKG]

27 minutes ago, Wunderlicht20 said:

i hope for july for some Info or R.I.P R* look at the playerbase on Steam 11k play this game currently

meanwhile gta V 120K and only in steam, in the last 30 days rdo lost 8% of their playerbase in steam

Edited June 17, 2020 by TagoKG

[Jason]

Comparing GTA V Steam numbers to RDR2's is a bit different, and sorta silly.

 

For one, GTA's will always be higher, always. Secondly, GTA V released day 1 on Steam and has been around for 5 years at this point, now going on sale for low prices frequently. RDR2 released on Steam 1 month after RGL and EGS and has yet to really have a big sale on Steam.

 

To use an example of how much of an impact timed exclusivity has on sale numbers, Borderlands 3 launched exclusively on EGS and while it should be noted that BL3 had a bigger time between the EGS and Steam launches than RDR2 did, BL3 on Epic had around a peak concurrent player count of around ~250k players, we don't have the exact number but given what Gearbox announced it's around that. Borderlands 3 then launched on Steam about 6 months later, at a 50% discount, and peaked at 93k concurrent players. Essentially, the timed exclusivity period meant the Steam launch of BL3 was around 37% the size of the EGS launch.

 

tl;dr: RDR2 PC's real player count numbers are way higher than Steam suggests

[tbmarkus]

1 hour ago, Fun 2 said:

The last update to qabeta3 makes me feel like it was built as the final build aka preparing for release, but instances like these happened before and it turned out to be nothing. I always keep a quarter of hope for such instances, but there's a high chance it turns out to be nothing again, so don't expect much.

Let's hope that this is the final built. It looks like as they wheren't working THAT much on it the last couple of days. I hope Rockstar has done a good job and giving us 2-3 new roles, a lot of fixes and new ways to enjoy the game. I really LOVE it, but it's boring as hell at the moment

[Nerfgoth]

16 minutes ago, TagoKG said:

meanwhile gta V 120K and only in steam, in the last 30 days rdo lost 8% of their playerbase in steam

8%? That is a lot for game in this genre!

 

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

Comparing GTA V Steam numbers to RDR2's is a bit different, and sorta silly.

 

For one, GTA's will always be higher, always. Secondly, GTA V released day 1 on Steam and has been around for 5 years at this point, now going on sale for low prices frequently. RDR2 released on Steam 1 month after RGL and EGS and has yet to really have a big sale on Steam.

 

To use an example of how much of an impact timed exclusivity has on sale numbers, Borderlands 3 launched exclusively on EGS and while it should be noted that BL3 had a bigger time between the EGS and Steam launches than RDR2 did, BL3 on Epic had around a peak concurrent player count of around ~250k players, we don't have the exact number but given what Gearbox announced it's around that. Borderlands 3 then launched on Steam about 6 months later, at a 50% discount, and peaked at 93k concurrent players. Essentially, the timed exclusivity period meant the Steam launch of BL3 was around 37% the size of the EGS launch.

 

tl;dr: RDR2 PC's real player count numbers are way higher than Steam suggests

I´m more interested in the numbers on friday evening, saturday day after TLOU2 is released! Someone here wrote that many how like RDR2 like that game too!

Edited June 17, 2020 by Nerfgoth
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[TagoKG]

36 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said:

8%? That is a lot for game in this genre!

 

I´m more interested in the numbers on friday evening, saturday day after TLOU2 is released! Someone here wrote that many how like RDR2 like that game too!

September 17 will be funny to check

[Nerfgoth]

4 minutes ago, TagoKG said:

September 17 will be funny to check

Ah, Cyberpunk 2077.... If I don´t remember wrong that game is going to have an online mode too.....

 

Maybe I pre-order it?!

 

I was hoping that R* was going to compete with TLOU2 and release a DLC!

Edited June 17, 2020 by Nerfgoth
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[Jason]

Cyberpunk's online mode is like two years away or something.

 

Also, yea sure, huge game comes out, player counts in other games drop. I know we're all very critical of RDO at the moment but there's nothing in player counts dropping when a big new game launches to suggest that RDO is somehow at fault or something, if that is what is being implied.

[Nerfgoth]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

Cyberpunk's online mode is like two years away or something.

 

Also, yea sure, huge game comes out, player counts in other games drop. I know we're all very critical of RDO at the moment but there's nothing in player counts dropping when a big new game launches to suggest that RDO is somehow at fault or something, if that is what is being implied.

Not at fault but a lack of content and a developer that is quiet will only get a short boost of players when a dlc drops. It is the same with a restaurant. If the they don´t listen to customers and change the menu from time to time people are getting bored whit what they serve!

 

And just because next gen is around the corner is not a reason to release more outlaw passes! Personally I was hoping for a new pass every 3 month!

[RS123]

Somedays I think to myself, "why can't be into fortnite or warzone or destiny like im into RDO? at least their developers communicate and release constant updates" but then I remeber how amazing RDO actually is, how much fun I have when I play it and how much incredible potential it truly has. Just wish R* would have better communication. This tactic doesn't build hype, it creates frustration among the player base. To be fully fair though, when they announced the "summer update" last spring, all the youtubers would make a video criticizing R* every week the update wouldn't come out, which im sure put a lot of pressure on the team.Sometimes I think the youtubers make it worse for the rest of us, maybe R* thinks that how the community actually is when in reality 90% of GTO & RDO youtubers will criticize R* just for the clicks., they also tend to over exaggerate situations and claim "the entire community" is pissed, which just makes us seem toxic to R*. I am not defending R* lack of communication for the past 6 months but OMG these youtubers need to chill.

[IzzyBlues]

28 minutes ago, RS123 said:

Somedays I think to myself, "why can't be into fortnite or warzone or destiny like im into RDO? at least their developers communicate and release constant updates" but then I remeber how amazing RDO actually is, how much fun I have when I play it and how much incredible potential it truly has. Just wish R* would have better communication. This tactic doesn't build hype, it creates frustration among the player base. To be fully fair though, when they announced the "summer update" last spring, all the youtubers would make a video criticizing R* every week the update wouldn't come out, which im sure put a lot of pressure on the team.Sometimes I think the youtubers make it worse for the rest of us, maybe R* thinks that how the community actually is when in reality 90% of GTO & RDO youtubers will criticize R* just for the clicks., they also tend to over exaggerate situations and claim "the entire community" is pissed, which just makes us seem toxic to R*. I am not defending R* lack of communication for the past 6 months but OMG these youtubers need to chill.

I can promise you that Rockstar don't and will never give a single flying f*ck about what Youtubers think.

[Jason]

37 minutes ago, Nerfgoth said:

Not at fault but a lack of content and a developer that is quiet will only get a short boost of players when a dlc drops. It is the same with a restaurant. If the they don´t listen to customers and change the menu from time to time people are getting bored whit what they serve!

 

And just because next gen is around the corner is not a reason to release more outlaw passes! Personally I was hoping for a new pass every 3 month!

I mean, yea, a lack of consistent updates won't build the playerbase up, but a new game coming out has nothing to do with that.

[RaigeGames]

9 hours ago, roggek said:

As I said for the third time, we would not expect an major update of RDO until the "next gen of consoles" a k a PS5 and XBox X is released! 
And that is around 5-6 month ahead (Thansksgiving/Xmas)

The problem is though, that sure next gen is releasing at the end of the year but RDR2 likely won't be available for next gen on day one. Rockstar has already said GTA V isn't releasing to next gen until the second half of 2021 and I can't imagine they'd release RDR2 for next gen before GTA. So if they did wait for next gen to release a major update it wouldn't just be 5 or 6 months, it could be much longer than that. 

 

I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll get something soon, it's just a matter of what

[Wunderlicht20]

Next month is a new XBOX Event and hope they saying Rdr2 is coming to XBox Series X.

GTA 5 = Sony exclusiv

Rdr2 = Microsoft exclusiv 

[Kirk Lazarus]

Big publishers know the consumer base won't all scoop up new Next Gen consoles the day they come out.  It'll take 6-12 months to build up a decent count.  With that in mind, they're not going to switch all titles over to next-gen exclusives, blockout out the majority of the people that have the hardware already.

 

[FuturePastNow]

30 minutes ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

I can promise you that Rockstar don't and will never give a single flying f*ck about what Youtubers think.

Well, if the old 4chan R* leaker is any indication, they absolutely despise all the people who make Youtube videos about their games.

[ALifeOfMisery]

11 minutes ago, a z said:

Big publishers know the consumer base won't all scoop up new Next Gen consoles the day they come out.  It'll take 6-12 months to build up a decent count.  With that in mind, they're not going to switch all titles over to next-gen exclusives, blockout out the majority of the people that have the hardware already.

 

Just to throw a question out there as I don't have the knowledge myself, is there any reason why, if RDR2 was available on day one of next gen, there couldn't be cross play between generations? X1/XSX and PS4/PS5. 

 

I'm aware of higher FPS advantages etc., but are there any actual technological reasons?

[Potter145]

55 minutes ago, Wunderlicht20 said:

Next month is a new XBOX Event and hope they saying Rdr2 is coming to XBox Series X.

GTA 5 = Sony exclusiv

Rdr2 = Microsoft exclusiv 

 

While R* actually had a partnership with Xbox in the past with GTAIV, I do believe they like to have marketing deals with one company exclusively for a certain period of time.

 

This makes me believe that Sony had the RDR marketing deal in addition to the GTA marketing deal.

 

There is a slight chance though, that R* is doing similar to Ubisoft. Which means having marketing deals with Xbox and PS simultaneously for different games.

 

So this could be the case here.

What gives this more credence is that the PS RDO partnership is now over. So no PlayStation exclusives anymore for RDO.

Also trustworthy people in the Xbox community said that RDR2 will be announced for Xbox Series X at some point.

It will launch before GTAV. And the fact that they announced GTAV without ingame footage, makes me believe they will do a proper trailer for RDR2 NextGen and it will launch this holiday as R* fall game.

 

The big Xbox event is early July, first week of July according to trustworthy people in the Xbox community.

 

So there is the possibility we will se RDR2 NextGen announced on Microsoft "stage" in 3 weeks.

 

https://wccftech.com/xbox-series-s-lockhart-half-price-series-x

Edited June 17, 2020 by executor404

[IzzyBlues]

56 minutes ago, FuturePastNow said:

Well, if the old 4chan R* leaker is any indication, they absolutely despise all the people who make Youtube videos about their games.

That's a different area entirely. He was talking about YouTubers formulating opinions and spreading them to the masses.

[Leftover Pizza]

1 hour ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Just to throw a question out there as I don't have the knowledge myself, is there any reason why, if RDR2 was available on day one of next gen, there couldn't be cross play between generations? X1/XSX and PS4/PS5. 

 

I'm aware of higher FPS advantages etc., but are there any actual technological reasons?

 

Cross play between console gens will be possible, unless Rockstar concocts some sort of "technical difficulties", like they did with GTAO when moving from PS3 to PS4. Also, their choice of P2P may oppose problems when compatibility is concerned. Think of loading in details of NPCs and stuff like that. 

Cross play between MS/Sony might pose a lot of problems, mainly due to paid game services subs for each platform. 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Leftover Pizza said:

Cross play between console gens will be possible, unless Rockstar concocts some sort of "technical difficulties", like they did with GTAO when moving from PS3 to PS4. Also, their choice of P2P may oppose problems when compatibility is concerned. Think of loading in details of NPCs and stuff like that. 

Yep. The only time cross-gen multiplayer will be an issue is if (when) they start releasing next-gen only updates. I imagine a few of the games supporting cross-gen MP will drop current gen at some point for that reason, if they're still being supported. I doubt cross-gen MP is going to be super common my self but we'll see.

 

2 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

Cross play between MS/Sony might pose a lot of problems, mainly due to paid game services subs for each platform. 

According to many devs, cross-platform multiplayer is literally a checkbox you tick and it'll work, cross-gen multiplayer I imagine is not much different given that many of these games also support console and PC cross platform multiplayer. The XBL Gold and PS+ fee is absolutely no issue. More and more games are now supporting cross-platform multiplayer these days, the floodgates have basically opened completely on it and it'll probably be pretty much standard next-gen.

[RS123]

1 hour ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

That's a different area entirely. He was talking about YouTubers formulating opinions and spreading them to the masses.

Every company, even R*, cares about that stuff, it influences the general opinion towards their games, even if they don’t act like they care im pretty sure they do. For example if majority youtubers say red dead online is dead, someone who doesn’t play that much will think it’s dead and won’t go back to playing it. R* might not be a reactive company but I’m pretty sure they hate all these youtubers who sh*t on R* for clicks and views. 

Edited June 17, 2020 by RS123