RDO Next Updates Speculation & General Chat (Part I)

[Potter145]

4 hours ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

 

Yeah, disappointing show. I haven't read previous posts yet, but it's safe to say the reddit "leak" was fake, even though it might contain some truths. Still beliebe RDR2 free NextGen enhancement will be announced sometimes this Summer (June, July or August). Even if RDR2 had been part of InsideXbox, it would have been underwhelming. When they said "Xbox Series X Gameplay" I expected gameplay demos and not just ingame trailers. Also for all the hype they created there were too few known AAA brands.

10 hours ago, RyuNova said:

 

Alot of the outfits from the Single Player gang like Dutch or Bill. Unique items like the massive fur coat, more glasses like Strauss' etc.

 

I agree they should have at least another cheaper Outlaw Pass between the bigger updates and passes. It doesn't matter if the rewards aren't that great. Just give us a 20 Gold Pass with 60 ranks with some minor stuff.

 

25 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

As if there was ever any doubt that it was nonsense. It baffles me how some here still take this kind of stuff seriously enough to post about it in anything but pure mockery.

 

There's a handful of people in the R* community I'd trust if they came forward with any information and some random prepubescent clout chaser from Reddit isn't isn't one of them.

 

 You are probably right, but I don't believe "leaks" that often.

This time it was curious because the reddit mods allowed it, trusted insider Yan2295 left the option open for it to be true. And the leaker said stuff that seemed genuine and lined up with other stuff as well we've heard from credible people. Also it lined up with the internal update delay that I've heard.

 

But I guess that's how professional leakers operate: Mix your bs with something that people have heard before.

Edited May 7, 2020 by executor404

[RyuNova]

2 hours ago, executor404 said:

I agree they should have at least another cheaper Outlaw Pass between the bigger updates and passes. It doesn't matter if the rewards aren't that great. Just give us a 20 Gold Pass with 60 ranks with some minor stuff.

 

That's actually not a bad idea. Each update comes with a large one hundred Rank Outlaw Pass with actually new stuff but they could release lesser Outlaw Passes that unlock stuff already in the game like NPC hats or hair and facial hair styles.

[GrungeNinja]

4 hours ago, a z said:

At bare minimum, the Outlaw pass could pick any one of these unused Trinkets with some minor stat increase.  Find one that can be displayed on the player.  It couldn't be any worse than rings (who dafuq can see those in-game while walking past?).
 

Having trinkets that enhance the gameplay would be awesome, I know that is difficult to notice them on other players, but personally I love the two rings we have, I can see them in my character pretty often. I wish they could add effects, the Trader one shortening Search in Area radius, and BH increasing a bit the timer on missions.

[JumpingKentFlash]

31 minutes ago, GrungeNinja said:

Having trinkets that enhance the gameplay would be awesome, I know that is difficult to notice them on other players, but personally I love the two rings we have, I can see them in my character pretty often. I wish they could add effects, the Trader one shortening Search in Area radius, and BH increasing a bit the timer on missions.

It would have made a lot more sense if the ability cards were trinkets.

[RedIndianRobin]

7 hours ago, executor404 said:

Yeah, disappointing show.

People were only watching that for Valhalla gameplay. 

[RyuNova]

[Potter145]

9 hours ago, RedIndianRobin said:

People were only watching that for Valhalla gameplay. 

Many AC fans tuned in, yes. That's why the AC trailer had the most dislikes because they rightfully expected a gameplay demonstration.

But many Xbox fans and gamers in general who are excited for nextgeneration tuned in because they expected actual gameplay demos of triple AAA 3rd party games like Elden Ring, Dying Light 2, Cyberpunk 2077 etc...

 

On it's own the show would have been great if it was announced 1 day before as a regular InsideXbox and not hype it up as NextGen gameplay showcase with AC.

[IzzyBlues]

18 hours ago, RyuNova said:

This 100%. The whole mysteriousness and lack of communication from companies/developers just doesn't sit well anymore. It's 2020 for f*cks sakes.

[Kirk Lazarus]

I don't understand Rockstar sometimes other than they think they're on top of the world and don't have to make their presence known.  Why a company that big doesn't have a personable presence or fun hints at future *possibilties* is beyond me.  Feed the fans and the true ones will support and defend you.  Whatever a company does, there will always be toxic people who twist every word.  That's when Rockstar should say fuq'em because those toxic fans will still buy the next game.  Spend time to show some appreciation to the die-hard fans and they'll fortify the internet with medicine in between titles.

Edited May 9, 2020 by a z

[ALifeOfMisery]

12 hours ago, IzzyBlues93 said:

This 100%. The whole mysteriousness and lack of communication from companies/developers just doesn't sit well anymore. It's 2020 for f*cks sakes.

R* are in the gaming dark ages as far as communication and community management are concerned.

 

The problem, for us, not them, is that they have two IPs that are almost bulletproof, at least as far as single player and unit sales go. GTA "Next" will break records, without a shadow of a doubt, it might not be the behemoth that V is over the long term, but as far as sales go, I'd bet it will blow the opening weekend that V had out of the water.

 

As far as the Red Dead franchise goes, RDO might tank, it might not, but either way, if and when another installment in the franchise appears it's initial sales will be huge.

 

We're stuck with how R* operate because they have no incentive to do things differently.

Edited May 9, 2020 by ALifeOfMisery
* I don't agree with how R* operate, I've spent a fair amount of my time here complaining about their practices. But, it is what it is, unfortunately. *

[RyuNova]

Be honest with me, this rumoured we read about them rolling tow updates into one and coming "soon". How much faith do we put in it?

[ALifeOfMisery]

6 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

Be honest with me, this rumoured we read about them rolling tow updates into one and coming "soon". How much faith do we put in it?

Personally, no faith at all.

 

As far as I'm concerned, the closest we'll get to "two updates in one" is the update that is planned to be released and maybe some spare part content that might just happen to be ready to go.

[RyuNova]

2 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

As far as I'm concerned, the closest we'll get to "two updates in one" is the update that is planned to be released and maybe some spare part content that might just happen to be ready to go.

 

True. R* would be rubbing their hands in glee about being able to postpone an update. Less work for them.

[ALifeOfMisery]

36 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

True. R* would be rubbing their hands in glee about being able to postpone an update. Less work for them.

We've heard the whole "two in one" stuff before with GTAO. I think there had been rumours of I'm not a Hipster part 2 and Casino Heist (iirc) ended up being the actual update. There were a bunch of cars in the dripfeed that didn't fit the update thematically (nothing remarkable about that imo), but they would have fit a second Hipster DLC.

 

So that's similar to what I'd expect in RDO if there is any truth at all to this two updates in one talk, there will be a bunch of clothing or something that just doesn't seem to fit with the theme of the update we actually get and that will possibly be content that was ready to go for an update that got shelved but R* chose to release the cosmetics anyway.

 

The only way I'll have any belief in a two in one DLC is if we end up getting 4 - 6 new roles, or 2 - 3 roles plus a whole new, unrelated, story mission arc.

Edited May 9, 2020 by ALifeOfMisery

[Retro_Causality]

really hope this next dlc is a massive one that knocks it out of the park

 

i feel like this is the crucuial hour right now for RDO, if it wants to survive

[Saiyam]

R* also needs to wrap up A Land of Opportunity storyline 

[ALifeOfMisery]

11 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

really hope this next dlc is a massive one that knocks it out of the park

 

i feel like this is the crucuial hour right now for RDO, if it wants to survive

I think we're all hoping for a stellar, revitalising DLC. I've been as die hard a player of R* games as anyone here for years, but I'm bored as f*ck with the current state of RDO. It gets 5 -10 minutes a day maximum for me right now.

 

I think RDO will survive for as long as R* and T2 want to spend time and money on it, whether that is enough time and money or time and money well spent in the community's collective opinion is a totally separate matter.

 

If the next update isn't interesting enough, doesn't add enough quality playable content and doesn't address many of the current bugs and issues, I'm out as a regular, daily player. I'm not saying I won't play, because I'll check out new updates, I'll progress through roles, complete story mission arcs etc. But I'll do those things at a much more casual pace and when I've played through the content of an update I'll drop the game until the next DLC gets released.

[Rev. Gnash]

45 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

It gets 5 -10 minutes a day maximum for me right now.

That is how,  I feel about GTAO. I never finished the initial Casino missions and haven't played any of the Casino Heists. The merge glitch, a couple of months ago was the longest, I have played in years (I still play, the Potshot playlist occasionally).

Edited May 9, 2020 by Rev. Gnash

[RyuNova]

1 hour ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

The only way I'll have any belief in a two in one DLC is if we end up getting 4 - 6 new roles, or 2 - 3 roles plus a whole new, unrelated, story mission arc.

 

That's what I wanted for each Role update. As I said the other day I would be happy to wait six months for three Roles each time. If its one Role per six months then that's like two weeks max of playtime.

Edited May 9, 2020 by RyuNova

[ALifeOfMisery]

8 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

That's what I wanted for each Role update. As I said the other day I would be happy to wait six months for three Roles each time. If its one Role per six months then that's like two weeks max of playtime.

Let's be honest, this is the kind of size all updates should be. RDO started with a severe lack of content and R* haven't added anywhere near enough post launch.

 

R* shouldn't be p*ssing around with one role plus a hand full of missions updates, especially when spaced apart like they are, it's not enough content and the content itself doesn't have the replay value to carry players through.

 

I'm a broken record at this point, but RDO is in dire need of quality PvE content, it needs "Heists" or an equivalent. They proved that they can pull it off multiple times in GTAO, each update had its issues for sure, but Heists, Doomsday Heist and Casino Heist were 3 of the best received updates, with great replay value, that really rejuvenated the game and player base.

 

The obvious bank and train robberies would work. They could also be an opportunity to use so far unused assets and areas in RDO, a prison break out, robbing the casino boat and missions in Guarma would all be rip offs of SP to an extent (as would the aforementioned bank and train robberies), but the player base would love them if executed properly.

[RyuNova]

Just now, ALifeOfMisery said:

Let's be honest, this is the kind of size all updates should be. RDO started with a severe lack of content and R* haven't added anywhere near enough post launch.

 

 

Agreed and they wonder why people think that GTAO gets all the attention and RDO is dead.

 

1 minute ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

R* shouldn't be p*ssing around with one role plus a hand full of missions updates, especially when spaced apart like they are, it's not enough content and the content itself doesn't have the replay value to carry players through.

 

 

I will hold fire until we get the next Update. To be fair Moonshiners could have been a quick and dirty update for Christmas with it being the first one and they knew they need to push something out.

 

3 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I'm a broken record at this point, but RDO is in dire need of quality PvE content, it needs "Heists" or an equivalent. They proved that they can pull it off multiple times in GTAO, each update had its issues for sure, but Heists, Doomsday Heist and Casino Heist were 3 of the best received updates, with great replay value, that really rejuvenated the game and player base.

 

 

Just more stuff in general. The game started out on good footing with them letting us Hunt and Fish from SP but so far it just seems like a rehash of GTAO since Bikers. They had the chance to make this something special but they are going down the same route and its killing the game.

 

5 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

The obvious bank and train robberies would work. They could also be an opportunity to use so far unused assets and areas in RDO, a prison break out, robbing the casino boat and missions in Guarma would all be rip offs of SP to an extent (as would the aforementioned bank and train robberies), but the player base would love them if executed properly.

 

Those are two good suggestions. Having a tunnel network under Cornwall Refinery would also work, needing to scout hidden exits, wagon deliveries, guard rotations etc.

[ORLAG]

9 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

RDO is in dire need of quality PvE content

Yeah, I would love GTAO style survivals, hold out in a locations like Fort Mercer or Wallace against progressively tougher npcs. Maybe with some additional objects in per wave, something to do that isn't just grind role-related content for money until it puts you to sleep.

[ghostsoap01]

I doubt we'll see a merge of 2 updates into one larger one. It makes no financial sense. They'd be turning 2 opportunities to make shark card sales into 1, essentially rendering all the work of one update pointless (from a business standpoint). From R*'s sales department's perspective, it makes much more sense to release them separately rather than merge them.

 

Edit: I meant gold of course, but you knew that.

Edited May 10, 2020 by ghostsoap01

[Nerfgoth]

28 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Let's be honest, this is the kind of size all updates should be. RDO started with a severe lack of content and R* haven't added anywhere near enough post launch.

 

R* shouldn't be p*ssing around with one role plus a hand full of missions updates, especially when spaced apart like they are, it's not enough content and the content itself doesn't have the replay value to carry players through.

 

I'm a broken record at this point, but RDO is in dire need of quality PvE content, it needs "Heists" or an equivalent. They proved that they can pull it off multiple times in GTAO, each update had its issues for sure, but Heists, Doomsday Heist and Casino Heist were 3 of the best received updates, with great replay value, that really rejuvenated the game and player base.

 

The obvious bank and train robberies would work. They could also be an opportunity to use so far unused assets and areas in RDO, a prison break out, robbing the casino boat and missions in Guarma would all be rip offs of SP to an extent (as would the aforementioned bank and train robberies), but the player base would love them if executed properly.

Yes to that.

[Shane_Dbns]

I would hope the next update is very large. I'll be extremely disappointed if after potentially 6 months we only get the rumoured Photography DLC where you just take pictures of sh*t.

[Blendi-]

1 hour ago, Shane_Dbns said:

I would hope the next update is very large. I'll be extremely disappointed if after potentially 6 months we only get the rumoured Photography DLC where you just take pictures of sh*t.

Facts

[Lonely-Martin]

3 hours ago, ghostsoap01 said:

I doubt we'll see a merge of 2 updates into one larger one. It makes no financial sense. They'd be turning 2 opportunities to make shark card sales into 1, essentially rendering all the work of one update pointless (from a business standpoint). From R*'s sales department's perspective, it makes much more sense to release them separately rather than merge them.

Sadly, I agree.

 

f*ck!

[Retro_Causality]

the thing is i thought RDO was overall, doing well...i remember Take Two saying it was doing better at a certain stage then when GTAO was at the same stage in terms of time, and had the highest count in January....but now i dont know

[YNNEL]

I think it’s already too late for RDO tbh. The only way it’s going to be successful is if they stop updating GTAO and say look that game has had its time and we are now focusing on RDO. But that just isn’t going to happen. Adding another role just isn’t going to cut it. There needs to be a dlc the size of the casino/casino heist.

[BUT THE BENZ]

13 minutes ago, YNNEL said:

There needs to be a dlc the size of the casino/casino heist....MEXICO

fixed that for you!

Edited May 10, 2020 by BUT THE BENZ