Rafae S Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Neon_Dreaming said: Cheaters: San Andreas Edition Golden lmao. The Time Ranger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) I never really saw the romance in VC. First, I was young and didn't care, and second it's pretty much non-existent. SA was pretty good. Simple enough to participate in the activities, and the girlfriends came with their perks. I loved dating Michelle in IV. I was literally in love with the virtual girl. She was so beautiful and funny that even the tasks such as going out to drink and eat didn't seem like chores. The Niko was an absolute twat towards Michelle when she came out as a secret agent, and I swore to never date in the game because Michelle was my only true love. It's not my fault that for some reason R* decided to turn Niko into a vindictive proud fool. She truly loved him, and he just ditched her like a one-night stay whore. I like to blame Niko for the fact that Michelle turned into that sadistic bitch after having lost the faith in humanity and love. I'm not sure if dating exists in GTA 5. I am yet to discover it. PS on a slightly related subject: when you had to drive a hooker for Jizzy she said "I'll do things your ruka won't". I have no idea what that means in Spanish, but in Russian ruka means hand, so it made some damn perfect sense! Edited April 23, 2019 by Lioshenka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 6:19 PM, Grotti Vigilante said: Michelle/Karen wasn't really into him, Kate was frigid as hell, Carmen was full of herself to the point of irritation, Kiki was a creepy stalker who needed too much attention, and Alex Interesting to know the names and the personalities of all GTA 4 girlfriends for someone who didn't care about dating :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotti Vigilante Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Lioshenka said: Interesting to know the names and the personalities of all GTA 4 girlfriends for someone who didn't care about dating I know most if not all character names from GTA. I once made it a point in my life to know everything in the series. People had to get ridiculous and ask me what time it was as if it was legit question just to try and catch me out. Nowadays I am not so absolute, though I still don’t think there are much holes in my knowledge. Edited April 24, 2019 by Grotti Vigilante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Lioshenka said: I loved dating Michelle in IV. I was literally in love with the virtual girl. She was so beautiful and funny that even the tasks such as going out to drink and eat didn't seem like chores. The Niko was an absolute twat towards Michelle when she came out as a secret agent, and I swore to never date in the game because Michelle was my only true love. It's not my fault that for some reason R* decided to turn Niko into a vindictive proud fool. She truly loved him, and he just ditched her like a one-night stay whore. I like to blame Niko for the fact that Michelle turned into that sadistic bitch after having lost the faith in humanity and love. Oh of course Niko's the bad guy for having a reaction most people would if they felt like they were being taken advantage of/being used. I don't blame Michelle entirely since she was just doing her job, but really if you were dating some girl you thought was being honest only to find out she's been deceiving you all along you'd be pretty filthy too. Also blaming Niko for how she ends up in GTA V is pretty ignorant. Infact after her role in GTA IV the UL Paper Contact said they "gave her life back" which to me is an implication she was no longer working for them yet somehow 5 years later she's working for them again with no explanation? I don't blame Niko for her becoming a sadistic bitch. I blame GTA V's sh*tty and incompetent writing that creates plot holes/inconsistencies. iiCriminnaaL and JPFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 hours ago, American Venom said: Oh of course Niko's the bad guy for having a reaction most people would if they felt like they were being taken advantage of/being used. I don't blame Michelle entirely since she was just doing her job, but really if you were dating some girl you thought was being honest only to find out she's been deceiving you all along you'd be pretty filthy too. For the game that was supposed to be a pinnacle of freedom of choice I would expect to be given a choice whether to continue to date Michelle or not. That was just yet another moment where the fake impression of GTA 4 supposedly outstanding realism and freedom quickly fades away. Like, "Hey, we can give you a choice of whether to spare Ivan Bychkov, who you only see once, but we'll take the girl you spent half the game dating away from you just coz lol". I was very pissed off after that mission. Quote GTA V's sh*tty and incompetent writing that creates plot holes/inconsistencies. Good to know there's something we both can agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondr4H Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Vice city stories for win!Vic and Louise You feel that love interest, chemistry and ending makes you feel sad and angry. I wish VCS get someday PC treatment...Keep on dreaming! iiCriminnaaL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, Lioshenka said: For the game that was supposed to be a pinnacle of freedom of choice I would expect to be given a choice whether to continue to date Michelle or not. That was just yet another moment where the fake impression of GTA 4 supposedly outstanding realism and freedom quickly fades away. Like, "Hey, we can give you a choice of whether to spare Ivan Bychkov, who you only see once, but we'll take the girl you spent half the game dating away from you just coz lol". I was very pissed off after that mission. Why would a choice ever be considered? After she sells him out her character is pretty much done. She introduces him to UL Paper and her work is finished. Continuing to date her like nothing ever happened would be stupid and make NO sense at all. iiCriminnaaL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 hours ago, American Venom said: Why would a choice ever be considered? Pretty much every choice in GTAs IV and V is stupid and unjustified. Most of them only exist to support the illusion of realism by giving the player a choice of something trivial, where in fact it is not really a choice. It's like the alternative cutscenes in SA, but this time they are there to torment you rather than to simply happen and be forgotten about. The fact is that R* put choices where they are not needed, and not included them where they were obviously needed. 2 hours ago, American Venom said: After she sells him out her character is pretty much done. You wouldn't date her, I would. There's a real life situation for you. If R* are going for realism - then stick with it and give people choice that can actually have some sort of effect on the game. TheSantader25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSantader25 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lioshenka said: The fact is that R* put choices where they are not needed, and not included them where they were obviously needed. I can agree with this one. A prime example of this is the Playboy X/Dwayne situation which 95% of the players choose Playboy anyway. Not only that but also it doesn't even fit Niko's character to kill Dwayne. But at the same time Rockstar cut another choice out of the game that was far more interesting. The Ray Boccino/Phill Bell choice that could have given players hours of debate and headache. That was cut out. Weird game design choice. Edited April 24, 2019 by TheSantader25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Lioshenka said: Pretty much every choice in GTAs IV and V is stupid and unjustified. Most of them only exist to support the illusion of realism by giving the player a choice of something trivial, where in fact it is not really a choice. It's like the alternative cutscenes in SA, but this time they are there to torment you rather than to simply happen and be forgotten about. I don't get it. You complain that there's no choice to keep dating Michelle, but you also complain that the choices are stupid and unjustified so using that logic you're suggesting adding another stupid and unjustified one? WTF? 41 minutes ago, Lioshenka said: You wouldn't date her, I would. There's a real life situation for you. If R* are going for realism - then stick with it and give people choice that can actually have some sort of effect on the game. It isn't a matter whether I would or not. After she reveals herself to be a goverment agent she has no reason to stay in contact with Niko intimately nor does he with her. Their ties are severed. It's as simple as that. iiCriminnaaL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lioshenka Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, American Venom said: I don't get it. You complain that there's no choice to keep dating Michelle, but you also complain that the choices are stupid and unjustified so using that logic you're suggesting adding another stupid and unjustified one? WTF? You misread my post - I said that R* put (most) choices where they were not needed or where they had no real impact on the game i.e. making them stupid choices. Had they put them in the situation like this it would not only enhance the story and make it more relatable/realistic/fluid, but would also make them justified. Quote It isn't a matter whether I would or not. After she reveals herself to be a goverment agent she has no reason to stay in contact with Niko intimately nor does he with her. Their ties are severed. It's as simple as that. It is obvious from the way she's been speak with Niko and the way she acted around him that she had a romantic attachment to him. Not in the beginning, but we see her feelings develop as the story progresses and they get to know each other better. Even during the scene where she came out as an agent it is clear that she still has the same feelings for Niko and wants to maintain the relationship, even if it would be challenging for her. And the moment she met him outside of the the newspaper headquarters I could tell that she wanted to talk about it, but clearly Niko was not in the mood. That on it's own was a good enough reason to give the player an option to date her - and if R* wanted to stick to their policy of choices having ho impact on the game then to be fair the rest of the game would not be affect in any way. Though it would be nicer if there was some sort of side story related to that. Edited April 24, 2019 by Lioshenka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Dude if you find out the person you're dating is an undercover agent who was dating you in order to inform on you and your friends that isn't a situation where the dating continues lol. Neither person would want to continue dating in that situation, it's beyond the level of "challenging". The entire "relationship" was built on lies, even if genuine feelings had built up Niko being massively betrayed and Michelle/Karen having a career/being a professional to think about would cancel that out. It would also change the whole story of the game into a completely outlandish one where Niko is dating the undercover agent who busted him while still being a criminal and apparently not bothered about being betrayed. It wouldn't be realistic and wouldn't work with the story or Niko's character. Even if they'd fallen passionately in love it would've been pushing it to try that...in fact they'd just met, were nowhere near being in love (their dates consist of small talk in between her trying to gather info to report, neither of them give hints of love or a deep connection) and they weren't even dating exclusively. Edited April 24, 2019 by billiejoearmstrong8 Algonquin Assassin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Lioshenka said: It is obvious from the way she's been speak with Niko and the way she acted around him that she had a romantic attachment to him. Not in the beginning, but we see her feelings develop as the story progresses and they get to know each other better. Even during the scene where she came out as an agent it is clear that she still has the same feelings for Niko and wants to maintain the relationship, even if it would be challenging for her. And the moment she met him outside of the the newspaper headquarters I could tell that she wanted to talk about it, but clearly Niko was not in the mood. Even if she does still have feelings for him it doesn't change the fact he obviously feels betrayed and simply doesn't trust her anymore. It's not like they just had a typical spat most couples do and it can be made up with a kiss and some flowers. iiCriminnaaL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) I wish R* would do something like this with Romances. The cops are onto the protagonist and make a deal with his love interest to give him up, she's still loyal to him and helps him escape but they never see each other again. Edited April 25, 2019 by Zello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrudgefromSanAndreas Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Apparently Cesar and Kendl are the only true love couple TheSantader25 and The Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFireMZL Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) The best love story is CJ with that girls: Edited April 25, 2019 by TheFireMZL Officer Ronson, Zello, Beato_dim and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Monke Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I actually liked all the romances. Including Franklin x Tracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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