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Why am I missing shot during hunting as opposed to pvp


Mrflanky707
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I’m doing decently well in pvp but while hunting, I’m a terrible shot and similar experiences or tips?

 

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You can't just flick the reticle straight up for headshot like on players.

Do you just rush at the animal on horse, or do you stalk them and take your time to aim? 

If persuing a deer on horseback I don't shoot unless it got its back turned straight at me. That way its easy to get a spine or headshot. But I prefer to sneak up on them and scope them.

If you got the springfield and express bullets, heart/lung shot will insta kill as well. Like a hunter irl would..

 

Off topic.

I'm not a hunter in real life, but I've never heard of any hunters who headshot their prey.

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1 minute ago, Chrismads said:

You can't just flick the reticle straight up for headshot like on players.

Do you just rush at the animal on horse, or do you stalk them and take your time to aim? 

If persuing a deer on horseback I don't shoot unless it got its back turned straight at me. That way its easy to get a spine or headshot. But I prefer to sneak up on them and scope them.

If you got the springfield and express bullets, heart/lung shot will insta kill as well. Like a hunter irl would..

 

Off topic.

I'm not a hunter in real life, but I've never heard of any hunters who headshot their prey.

Thank u for the reply maybe a bit more stalking is in order. Sometimes even when there not moving though I get a miss even though I swear I’m hitting them with Jill shots.

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46 minutes ago, Mrflanky707 said:

I’m doing decently well in pvp but while hunting, I’m a terrible shot and similar experiences or tips?

 

Turn dead eye on then. You'll have 💯% accuracy. Or just wait a few seconds and take your time. Wait for aiming reticule to thin out and shoot.

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ALifeOfMisery
2 hours ago, Chrismads said:

Off topic.

I'm not a hunter in real life, but I've never heard of any hunters who headshot their prey.

I don't hunt irl either, but at a guess, animals like deer have quite small brains so chest shots would be higher percentage kill shots? I don't know though.

 

Headshots would also ruin the kill for trophy hunters I guess too.

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2 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I don't hunt irl either, but at a guess, animals like deer have quite small brains so chest shots would be higher percentage kill shots? I don't know though.

 

Headshots would also ruin the kill for trophy hunters I guess too.

Ethical hunting is taking your time to make sure the kill is as sudden as it can be.  Hitting the vitals just behind the shoulder, in the area of the heart but hopefully a double lung shot so they go down within a very short range of being hit.  The last thing you want is a low percentage head shot that takes a jaw off and it runs a hell of a long way before it bleeds out, suffers immensely, causes you a day or two of tracking, and could ultimately leave you without finding it and causing an animal to suffer needlessly.  Gut shots are even worse, the hole plugs and it doesn’t leave a good blood trail, so it runs off and goes into septic shock.  A well aimed bow shot is definitely a double lung pass through, if you’re aiming for the head you’re an idiot.  

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Thanks for clearing that up @jstev4610.

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The vitals area on an elk is 12x12ish, that’s a pretty big area that’s not a head bobbing around.  A deer would get up to maybe 8x8 depending on a Mulie or whitetail.  You want a good broadside presentation at 90 degrees.  Pass on anything with it quartering away from you, never shoot an animal from behind.  Shooting head on is also a no no.  I don’t have any issues getting kills online and I hunt a lot, most of my xp is from hunting and hunting related buckle resets.  I don’t hunt online like I do in real life though, I wish it was more immersive where you really had to stalk game and could shoot prone for real stability from an elevated distance.  Plus my other comments in the bitchfest thread about losing pelt quality for nonvital misses.  I shoot mostly from horseback which is unstable as hell in real life.  You’re shooting off hand and on top of another moving animal.  I can’t believe they don’t have grouse in this game, unless they’re up north and I’ve never ran into them.

Also, an elk heart is as big as my head, but nestled between and just back of the center of the lungs.

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yea to sum it up, you need a good angle to kill animals easily generally. I haven't really bothered with aiming for the lungs or other vitals and what not and just went for headshots on animals. 

 

Basically animals are a bit more unpredictable in a sense and have fast acceleration, in comparison to players.

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16 hours ago, jstev4610 said:

Ethical hunting is taking your time to make sure the kill is as sudden as it can be.  Hitting the vitals just behind the shoulder, in the area of the heart but hopefully a double lung shot so they go down within a very short range of being hit.  The last thing you want is a low percentage head shot that takes a jaw off and it runs a hell of a long way before it bleeds out, suffers immensely, causes you a day or two of tracking, and could ultimately leave you without finding it and causing an animal to suffer needlessly.  Gut shots are even worse, the hole plugs and it doesn’t leave a good blood trail, so it runs off and goes into septic shock.  A well aimed bow shot is definitely a double lung pass through, if you’re aiming for the head you’re an idiot.  

In real life, sure. In the game a headshot is typically your best bet, unless you're playing single player and using something like an improved arrow on a deer. In that case it doesn't matter where you hit really, it'll go down in one shot, so you're best off aiming center mass.

9 hours ago, The FoolYT said:

yea to sum it up, you need a good angle to kill animals easily generally. I haven't really bothered with aiming for the lungs or other vitals and what not and just went for headshots on animals. 

 

Basically animals are a bit more unpredictable in a sense and have fast acceleration, in comparison to players.

This is the real issue. With the horizontal orientation, you simply cannot get a headshot with many angles. Worse, if they run they run fast and weave back and forth a lot. Finally, they tend to bob up and down a LOT on the move, making headshots on a moving animal far more difficult than they are on hunan targets.

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On 1/8/2019 at 7:56 AM, ALifeOfMisery said:

I don't hunt irl either, but at a guess, animals like deer have quite small brains so chest shots would be higher percentage kill shots? I don't know though.

 

Headshots would also ruin the kill for trophy hunters I guess too.

in hunting, we usuallly go for neckshot, the eye, or the heart, where i live people don't hunt for trophies, just to reduce poppulation, weed out the old and sick.

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5 hours ago, DrKrankenstein said:

in hunting, we usuallly go for neckshot, the eye, or the heart, where i live people don't hunt for trophies, just to reduce poppulation, weed out the old and sick.

In my country, if anyone took a headshot on a animal, i'm pretty sure they'd be brutally murdered by angry hunters.

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On 1/7/2019 at 10:45 PM, Mrflanky707 said:

Thank u for the reply maybe a bit more stalking is in order. Sometimes even when there not moving though I get a miss even though I swear I’m hitting them with Jill shots.

 

Jill? Don't name the animals you kill lol.

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4 minutes ago, rusbeckia said:

Tried it few times. Never worked. Is there a trick to it?

Not really. Just go to a general area where there are animals, place the bait, hide and wait for few seconds. Not sure why it never worked for you, always works for me and always draws 3 star animals. Works great for trolling other players too, place predator bait around people fishing or busy doing something, watch and laugh.

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9 minutes ago, miahus said:

Not really. Just go to a general area where there are animals, place the bait, hide and wait for few seconds. Not sure why it never worked for you, always works for me and always draws 3 star animals. 

I think I need to test this a little further. Thx

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I've had decent luck using bait at Barrow Lagoon. Herbivore bait seems to work best, Predator bait seems to attract mostly wolves in this location for me.

 

Place the bait on the frozen lake, go up one of the hillsides into the trees and wait. I always get a few 3* pelts this way.

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Pressure Drop

If you're hunting deer or similar size animal, I like to use binoculars from afar, find a 3 star one, then Rush it with horse and lasso, you will usually catch it if you don't slam yourself into a tree or rock

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2 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

I've had decent luck using bait at Barrow Lagoon. Herbivore bait seems to work best, Predator bait seems to attract mostly wolves in this location for me.

 

Place the bait on the frozen lake, go up one of the hillsides into the trees and wait. I always get a few 3* pelts this way.

Is there a chance to spot a moose in this location? I played in RDO since 27 nov, but didn't saw a moose nowhere. In Story mode they are rare too, but there i'm at least saw and killed couple of them. 

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1 hour ago, Vik2390 said:

Is there a chance to spot a moose in this location? I played in RDO since 27 nov, but didn't saw a moose nowhere. In Story mode they are rare too, but there i'm at least saw and killed couple of them. 

I've seen a moose twice so far in online (both male), killed one, lost another to my horse being a noisy SOB.

 

The one I killed was near Cairn Lake and the one I missed out on was near Wilard's Rest.

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8 hours ago, miahus said:

Works great for trolling other players too, place predator bait around people fishing or busy doing something, watch and laugh.

 

I'm not a fan of going after people minding their own business, but this is funny as hell. I may have to give it a try. 

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DrKrankenstein
On 1/9/2019 at 7:05 PM, Chrismads said:

In my country, if anyone took a headshot on a animal, i'm pretty sure they'd be brutally murdered by angry hunters.

care to explain?

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36 minutes ago, DrKrankenstein said:

care to explain?

Sure. Headshotting an animal is very frowned upon. Hunters say its reckless as there's alot of deer found with the jar, eye, or whatever part of the face shot off still alive and suffering. Again I'm not a hunter.. yet.. so I'm not gonna claim to know if thats right or wrong. I just thought it was a deffinate no no in the overall hunting community to headshot anything.

 

Edit. Frowned upon in Denmark where I'm from

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On 1/12/2019 at 1:25 PM, Chrismads said:

Sure. Headshotting an animal is very frowned upon. Hunters say its reckless as there's alot of deer found with the jar, eye, or whatever part of the face shot off still alive and suffering. Again I'm not a hunter.. yet.. so I'm not gonna claim to know if thats right or wrong. I just thought it was a deffinate no no in the overall hunting community to headshot anything.

 

Edit. Frowned upon in Denmark where I'm from

Well, netherlands here, we do go for headshots. since the head doesn't get used, so there is no bulletparts left in the meat. For deer we use high caliber though, carbine rounds.

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