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just do it bob1

The ZR380: Wasted Potential - How Rockstargames Can Fix It!

Your thoughts on the ZR380...  

47 members have voted

  1. 1. Should Rockstar remove the front armoured plate on the ZR380?

    • Yes, it ruins the car. Although it was made for "arena war", it would be nice to have a stock version :)
      38
    • No, leave the car as it is. It needs no changes
      9
  2. 2. Should Rockstar release a brand new stock variant or just an option to remove the front plate?

    • Add an option to remove the front plate
      9
    • Make a new stock variant of the ZR380
      14
    • Make a new stock variant AND bring down the price of the stock variant compared to the arena war variant
      24
  3. 3. Before you saw this thread or anything online, did it bug you that the front plate on the ZR380 wasn't removable?

    • Yes, I noticed right away and it was bothering me
      33
    • No, I couldn't be bothered that much by it
      14


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just do it bob1
Posted (edited)

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The ZR380 Thread : Wasted Potential Thread - How Rockstargames Can Fix It

If this thread is in the wrong section (it should be in Arena War Subforums to my knowledge),

It would be nice if a Mod or an Admin could move it. I do not have the option to create topics there for some reason. 

 

CREDITS:

all the photos that are seen here belong to the following people below...

links to their pages have been added where applicable.

 

CarbonAddiction

Hella-Flush

GTA WIKI - GTA.FANDOM.COM

 

 

The ZR380 was released and was apart of the Arena War update added to GTA Online. The Arena War update was very fun overall, and I for one had a blast with it. However, there is one small problem. See, the apocalypse version of the ZR380 and the apocalypse version being the only version, allows you to create a stock, ZR380 which is based on the 350z in real life. (see below)

 

 

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The only problem is that it's not actually stock. There is an annoying front plate, which ruins the appeal and look of the car. 

This front plate I am referring to is the armored plate designed for the car in Arena War. While there remain options to make this car stock, there is no option to remove the plate. There is no glitch to remove it either (unlike some glitches in the past where you could remove parts of cars).

 

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There is no modded version either. The plate is actually fixed onto the car, in other words, the plate is not an extra.

For those who are unfamiliar with extras, extras are parts of a car in a GTA game that can be removed through glitching or modding. For example, the cage around the Canis Merryweather Mesa is an extra, thus why modders can remove the cage. Removing extras were mostly associated with removing Grafitti off of the Hoods Rumpo XL in GTA3, and removing the Taxi light in other 3D era GTA games.

 

Long story short, the armored plating is not considered extra, so the ZR380 CANNOT be made NE (no extra).

What pains me the most is to see this car used at car meets with this plate. The car would look so much nicer without the plate.. wouldn't you agree?

It is almost like the car is wasted potential. Rockstar games have added this beautiful car into the game but ruined it with this armored plate. 

 

Regardless if you are into stance culture, or even just want a ZR380 for your own, I think we can all agree that we would like a stock ZR380 added into the game. When the Jester Classic was taken from the game files and modified in Story Mode, there was an outcry from the community! No one liked it! Rockstar ended up passing this vehicle from the SASSS update and re-released it apart of After Hours. When it was re-released, it had new customization options and was beautiful. I think Rockstar can do the same here. 

 

As of right now, you are probably curious as to how the ZR380 would have looked if it had no front plate. Luckily modders have taken the time to make a mod that removes this armored plate, which allows us to have a proper visual as to what the ZR380 would look like without the plating. 

 

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In this photo, you can see both a widebody variant (the current one in the game, and a non-widebody variant (not apart of the game).

Although it is not a perfect mod, you can still get an idea of what the ZR380 would look like without its armor.

 

This is an easy fix by rockstar, it took the modders a few hours to create a model without the armor. 

Let's discuss the options of fixing this car, and how to not make it wasted potential and fully maximize the potential of this car.

 

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This is a simple fix (a few actually). I'm going to list a bunch of ways Rockstar can fix this.

 

1. Add a new option to remove the armored plating 

This is a no-brainer. You add an option to remove the armored plating and there are no more problems. 

 

2. Add a brand new stock variant into the game on Legendary Motorsport

This would be a different approach that would be much better. If Rockstar could add a new stock variant, without all of the ricer customization options, it would be great. We would have the apocalypse ZR380 and then a stock one for all the car enthusiasts. And please rockstar (if you are reading this), please do not remove the Fukaru decals on the rims if you release a new stock variant. 

 

3. Add a brand new stock variant into the game on Legendary Motorsport and slash down the price

As of right now, the ZR380 is extremely expensive. Since this update is apart of Arena War, it is understandable. If we were to get a stock variant, it would make sense to price it around 1.5 Million since we are not making this car Arena War ready. I doubt this would happen, but I would be happy at this point with just an update where it removes the front plating.

 

If this does end up happening, it is likely that this will be added in the next update, not through background scripts. I really hope rockstar comes through with this and does what the community wants. 

Also, if you have any questions, comments, ideas, or have your own opinions on my work, please let me know. I am always trying to make my threads better and it actually means a lot to me. If you have ideas and want to contribute to the thread, let me know and I will add it, crediting you accordingly. 

 

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Just wanted to add this very quickly into the thread. Rockstar, why can't we have these wheels? Why can't we customize stock wheels either?

I know so many people into stance culture who have wanted wheels like these for so long. If you do end up making a separate variant, please include these tires! Let us also customize stock rims, please! Better yet, add rims like these officially into Online in the next update. These could possibly be added under the tuner section of wheels? I really hope these wheels are not locked to this version of the car. Hopefully, these can be used on all cars in the near future.


To raise more awareness to Rockstar, I have decided to make a ZR380 petition to remove the armored plating (similar to the petitions people made before the Jester Classic was added). Signing it would help me out and the rest of the community greatly. If you are interested, the link can be found here:

 

https://www.change.org/p/rockstargames-rockstar-remove-the-front-plate-on-the-zr380-petition

 

Together, I think we can make rockstar change the ZR380 and maximize its potential. This way, we can make it the cool car it was meant to be.

I want to appreciate this car more, but I simply can't because of the armored plating. 

 

I will make updates as time progresses.

Thank you for taking the time to read my thread as always. If you would like to contribute and update the OP, please let me know via reply or PM.

Edited by just do it bob1

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oli_152

Signed right away. 

 

Sad that we can't have the ZR380 Stock.

Just a thing : we can actually get the 2 other variants. They are just below in the page in the Arena War Website 😂

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just do it bob1
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, oli_152 said:

 

Just a thing : we can actually get the 2 other variants. They are just below in the page in the Arena War Website 😂

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wait, which variants specifically? 

Edited by just do it bob1

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Plocospermataceae

Yeah it's really weird they didn't include an option to remove the window plate, since otherwise it can be made to look relatively clean. If they added that option, I'd be fine with the current version. Shame it can't be used in races though, since I think it feels really nice to drive. Not very competitive, but would still be fun to race with. I suppose an additional stock version would be nice for that reason. Like it's strange they decided to create this car, but only as a crazy armored version

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Commander S

'Add a stock version' is the easiest solution, IMO - right now, it's not like there's a car called the "ZR380" in the game, because the only variants are the named Arena War variants (Apocalypse ZR380, Future Shock ZR380, Nightmare ZR380).

 

Take all the kludge and weapons off it, put that version into the game as the no-prefix "ZR380", add some decent modification options at LSC, sell it for a reasonable price ($350k or $370k, or even $380k, because obvious nod is obvious - that, and the price difference is close to that for the Kuruma/Armored Kuruma), and job done.

 

 


...all of which is moot, because when has R* ever done the logical thing when it comes to cars like this? Still no clean Comet Classic, still no Lost/Gang Slamvan - not to mention so many things added that come 'pre-customised', based on real-life customs, instead of stock versions (Deviant, Clique, Hermes, Yosemite, etc.). :sigh:

 

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IceDree

Yeah it really bothered me when I first saw it. I was hoping we can clean it up like what people do with the Vapid Imperator or whatever its called, but no dice.

 

I wish it was just the windshield plate. They just had to do the Liberty Walk fenders, gazillion rivets, ugly bumper & so on ... Was a clean body too much to ask???!!

 

I hope they do a clean one with the next update, but I'm not holding my breath.

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whywontyoulisten

It wouldn't be so bad if the windshield plate could be painted black, as per the Kuruma, but it's all one solid colour. A clean version would be infinitely preferable, but this is Rockstar.

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JoeBoneless

It's not wasted potential. It was the first Arena car unlock price I got. 

 

I dont see any need for a 'stock' version, weve been getting boring cars for years, these new arena vehicles are actually fun

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crsN
Posted (edited)

Joe is right and the majority of the players think the same. That's why there is no stock version for minority players.

 

Edited by crsN

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Forza Harrd

It would be nice to have a stock version, but it's not something I care about. I wanted a 240Z, not a 350Z. They gave me one but they screwed up the back end so much I never drive it. Skyline>350Z anyway.

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crybaby17h16
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maybe they will add it in the few next weeks, adding some small different customizations for a higher price

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just do it bob1
19 minutes ago, crybaby17h16 said:

maybe they will add it in the few next weeks, adding some small different customizations for a higher price

Pretty sure that would require a formal update. They would not be able to do that through background scripts, to my knowledge.

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Commander S
7 hours ago, crsN said:

Joe is right and the majority of the players think the same. That's why there is no stock version for minority players.

 


 

Joe is debatable, as is the idea that the "majority think the same" - after all, R* still puts out plenty of stock/civilian-grade cars these days (some of which are pretty obscure*), so the demand is clearly there. And they bothered to add stock versions for some of the Arena War cars, so it's weird that they're inconsistent when it comes to this one.

 

*meanwhile, they took a popular sports car, based the in-game name on a fan-favourite from San Andreas, and ...didn't add a regular version for the car enthusiasts. :turn:

 

 

Also worth considering: you can't use Arena War variants for races, including stunt races, transform races, etc. - all popular modes (at least in R*'s estimation - again, hence why they've pumped out so many), so it's just wasted potential in that regard, too.

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Black-Dragon96

What also bothers me with this thing, is that I can't tint the bloody windows for some reason.

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just do it bob1
Just now, Black-Dragon96 said:

What also bothers me with this thing, is that I can't tint the bloody windows for some reason.

tbh tinting your windows is kinda rice. Much rather have an armored plate than tint my windows

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Gaffa

Why can't we have a Glendale Stretch too, without it being on huge wheels and outrageous suspension? 

 

Don't get me started on the inability to use almost any Arena War specific vehicles in races, despite not even having weapons on or whatever. Really missed potential. 

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Lonely-Martin

I don't think it ruins the car as such, but certainly agree we could do with a stock variant, or options to make one. Either way I'd like that. I don't dislike the arena versions but more choice and variety is always good in my book.

 

Same for all the others, aside the standard cars we can upgrade ourselves of course. (Issi or Dominator etc).

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Commander S
1 hour ago, Gaffa said:

Why can't we have a Glendale Stretch too, without it being on huge wheels and outrageous suspension? 

 

Don't get me started on the inability to use almost any Arena War specific vehicles in races, despite not even having weapons on or whatever. Really missed potential. 


Exactly - and heck, why not a Stretch-E, while we're at it?

It boggles the mind that R* creates all-new parts for things, just for gimmicky variants of them, while passing over the chance to also add a more standard version, too. Could even save them extra work per update - after all, making something like a Glendale Stretch as a new update car means not having to make an all-new body for it.

 

But again, no Lost Slamvan - and I'm not going to feign surprise when two years from now, the Arena Wars boost function hasn't been repurposed as nitrous oxide for more conventional cars... R*'s GTAO team has an uncanny knack for ignoring opportunities to squeeze extra juice out of existing assets (meanwhile, the folks creating the brand-new Red Dead Online seem more than happy to cobble the character assets together simply from single-player RDR2 assets... :turn:).

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Coleco

Someone had to make the base model anyway, so why doesn't every vehicle have the option for a 'stock' variant? I love my Imperator for this very reason.

 

Or, at the very least - a stock base that needs to be upgraded? Seeing as that's R*'s usual approach to nickel-and-dime players you'd think that they'd give everyone the most basic model as a starting point so that people will have to spend more to get the version they want. 

 

This poor planning by the design team results in lots of one-use-only wasted assets. But we see this time and again with the game environments too, so I guess that's just the way this studio seems to operate (which is short-sighted at best and downright wasteful at worst). It really does suck because all of these cool models and locations could get greater mileage and even (as much as I'm not a fan of it) help further monetize elements of the game.  

 

But, back on topic - I've made my vote above - anything that increases options and player choice can only be a good thing :)

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JustCallMeNiko

Didn't notice before seeing this thread and don't much care since I didn’t plan on adding a clean version of this car to my collection..

 

Still gave you the vote since your post made a good argument with pics and that car could one day look good in my office garage..

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