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Furi0sa

Why I still love GTA 3

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TheSantader25

I bought the PS2 Classics GTA Trilogy(III, VC, SA) for the PS4 three years ago for 15$. One of the best purchases I've ever made. Now I can play the 3D era GTAs anytime I want. I have to find a more convenient way to play GTA IV easier as well. I still play it from time to time but my Old Xbox 360 seems to be dying slowly. Weird noises and errors happen sometimes. I'm afraid it's gonna stop working sometime soon. 

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SonOfLiberty
1 hour ago, TheSantader25 said:

I bought the PS2 Classics GTA Trilogy(III, VC, SA) for the PS4 three years ago for 15$. One of the best purchases I've ever made. Now I can play the 3D era GTAs anytime I want. I have to find a more convenient way to play GTA IV easier as well. I still play it from time to time but my Old Xbox 360 seems to be dying slowly. Weird noises and errors happen sometimes. I'm afraid it's gonna stop working sometime soon. 

Get a cheap XB1. Backwards compatibility ftw. 

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TheSantader25
4 minutes ago, Miamivicecity said:

Get a cheap XB1. Backwards compatibility ftw. 

Tbh it's the end of the generation and it's not worth it. I hope they keep this feature in the next generation. 

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SonOfLiberty
8 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Tbh it's the end of the generation and it's not worth it. I hope they keep this feature in the next generation. 

Fair enough, but it's probably the only way to play GTA IV unless you can persevere with the 360 I guess. Just throwing it out as a suggestion.👍

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FadeAway

Played lll earlier and one of the trying things are the driving physics. Wowza. I forgot if they improved a little in San Andreas. I know there is a cheat to have better handling but it's not a huge bother as much just remembering how those physics were. Seems to also depend on the vehicle.

 

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Nik0 Bellic
On 1/17/2019 at 7:27 AM, FadeAway said:

Played lll earlier and one of the trying things are the driving physics. Wowza. I forgot if they improved a little in San Andreas. I know there is a cheat to have better handling but it's not a huge bother as much just remembering how those physics were. Seems to also depend on the vehicle.

 

Driving wasn't that bad

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Nik0 Bellic
On 1/4/2019 at 2:58 AM, Furi0sa said:

Yeah playing as the "bad guy" is so common place in 2018 but in 2001 it was quite fresh. They kind of mastered it as claude isn't a half measure like other characters like CJ where hes a ruthless killer but also sympathetic, characters like Tommy, Trevor, and Claude work better in rockstar's bile filled universe.

Trevor aint as bad as claude sometimes, its amazing he aint killed michael after learning about real michael

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On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 12:29 PM, Nik0 Bellic said:

Trevor aint as bad as claude sometimes, its amazing he aint killed michael after learning about real michael

Trevor while a representation of Rockstar's lawlessness/nihilism/satire personified as one individual character still has loyalties and emotions. Claude really has no humanity.

 

I had a hard time picking a favorite rockstar game before Red Dead 2's campaign became likely my favorite game of all time.  Outside of RDR2, I think gta 3 is my favorite and that's really saying something.

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FadeAway
On 3/10/2019 at 5:19 PM, Nik0 Bellic said:

Driving wasn't that bad

It's not but like I said it also depends on the vehicle. I do have to be more strategic in driving than newer games (not hitting cars or pedestrians, not being upside down, avoiding being shot at).

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Nik0 Bellic
3 hours ago, FadeAway said:

It's not but like I said it also depends on the vehicle. I do have to be more strategic in driving than newer games (not hitting cars or pedestrians, not being upside down, avoiding being shot at).

Thats the point, you said it damn right

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GTA_CAT
On 3/18/2019 at 6:56 AM, Nik0 Bellic said:

Thats the point, you said it damn right

And remember you cannot bail out of the car. There's nothing worse that see your vehicle rolling again and again in flames knowing that at any moment will explode and you won't be able to leave. 

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Funktipus
On 1/3/2019 at 11:28 PM, American Venom said:

I still love GTA III's dark and brooding atmosphere. In many ways it feels like a blueprint for Manhunt and The Warriors.

Yep, the map is incredible even after all these years. There's a creepiness about it that I love. It's my second favorite GTA game after SA.

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LCLegend
On 4/2/2019 at 3:35 PM, Funktipus said:

Yep, the map is incredible even after all these years. There's a creepiness about it that I love. It's my second favorite GTA game after SA.

The overall story also helps the creepiness of the city. You're pretty much all alone in GTA 3 and that loneliness sort of makes the city feel that much creepier, you'll be shot at constantly, the hobos in the tunnels, the eccentric pedestrians, etc. Love things like that.

Even Lazlow feels lonely, stuck in a nightmarish city filled with insane people.

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Legomanarthur
On 4/21/2019 at 6:24 AM, LCLegend said:

The overall story also helps the creepiness of the city. You're pretty much all alone in GTA 3 and that loneliness sort of makes the city feel that much creepier, you'll be shot at constantly, the hobos in the tunnels, the eccentric pedestrians, etc. Love things like that.

Even Lazlow feels lonely, stuck in a nightmarish city filled with insane people.

Something I always liked about the 3D era, and more specifically GTA III, is the fact that everyone is pretty much dumb or crazy except for the player and Lazlow. Just listening to pedestrians talking sh*t for instance makes you feel alone, there will always be one that will make you think "wtf is this guy saying?" like you're the only sane person in this mad city.

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LCLegend
7 hours ago, Legomanarthur said:

Something I always liked about the 3D era, and more specifically GTA III, is the fact that everyone is pretty much dumb or crazy except for the player and Lazlow. Just listening to pedestrians talking sh*t for instance makes you feel alone, there will always be one that will make you think "wtf is this guy saying?" like you're the only sane person in this mad city.

It's unfortunate that as the series progresses Lazlow eventually grows into the degeneracy and doesn't exactly continue to stay being the sane guy we knew him as in GTA 3.

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Funktipus
On 4/22/2019 at 11:34 AM, Legomanarthur said:

Just listening to pedestrians talking sh*t for instance makes you feel alone, there will always be one that will make you think "wtf is this guy saying?" like you're the only sane person in this mad city.

That's how I feel riding the NYC subways or taking a stroll down 5th Avenue. I swear, the cell phone conversations in GTA IV make more sense than some of the sh*t I hear in real life.

 

It shows you how brilliant the creative folks at Rockstar are.

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Lioshenka
On 3/18/2019 at 2:51 AM, FadeAway said:

It's not but like I said it also depends on the vehicle. I do have to be more strategic in driving than newer games (not hitting cars or pedestrians, not being upside down, avoiding being shot at).

It's interesting that you said that, because to me GTA 4/5 driving seems really dumbed down. All cars handle the same (unlike in GTA3, where Perennial and Yakuza Stinger handle very differently), and if you accidentally flip your car - hey, don't worry. Just steer left or right, and the car will magically flip back on its wheels.

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GTA_CAT

Crap, the only TV where I could put my PS2 have died. In the other there's no space and my computer runs with Windows 95 so obviously I neither can install it there. If somebody has a spare TV plz send it to me (add exasperation laugh).

 

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11 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

It's interesting that you said that, because to me GTA 4/5 driving seems really dumbed down. All cars handle the same (unlike in GTA3, where Perennial and Yakuza Stinger handle very differently), and if you accidentally flip your car - hey, don't worry. Just steer left or right, and the car will magically flip back on its wheels.

I do like the added improvements (like being able to flip your car back on its wheels), it got very annoying driving say, a Landstalker in 3, and the car flipping over because I made the turn too hard... but maybe I'm just a masochist or something but I sort of like that added challenge of also having to watch over your car, and this aspect is really only present in 3.

Only in this game will you be shot at in almost every neighborhood.

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DEALUX

I think the silent character thing is meant to be that way so that the player will identify with him. I feel like Claude is a bit of an awkward and anti-social dude kinda like a lot of gamers.

 

The actual reason he doesn't talk is just R* being lazy I think.

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Lioshenka
14 hours ago, LCLegend said:

I do like the added improvements (like being able to flip your car back on its wheels), it got very annoying driving say, a Landstalker in 3, and the car flipping over because I made the turn too hard... but maybe I'm just a masochist or something but I sort of like that added challenge of also having to watch over your car, and this aspect is really only present in 3.

Only in this game will you be shot at in almost every neighborhood.

Ha, can't argue about that. Landstalker had the worst handling in GTA 3. I've been avoiding of driving it for over a decade out of the fear of flipping over.

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LCLegend
3 hours ago, Lioshenka said:

Ha, can't argue about that. Landstalker had the worst handling in GTA 3. I've been avoiding of driving it for over a decade out of the fear of flipping over.

It really is the only car I outright avoid in GTA 3, yeah. I've gotten used to how much the car flips over and how to control it properly, but it's f*cked me over so many times I don't think I'll ever drive it again.

14 hours ago, DEALUX said:

I think the silent character thing is meant to be that way so that the player will identify with him. I feel like Claude is a bit of an awkward and anti-social dude kinda like a lot of gamers.

 

The actual reason he doesn't talk is just R* being lazy I think.

The silent protagonist is probably my favorite aspect of GTA 3. You could pretty much make Claude do whatever you want and play however you want. You could make him a psychopathic madman who will shoot anyone and everything in sight, or a silent, deadly assassin who can stalk the night... Other games added the ability to personalize their protagonist to several degrees, but it always felt weird playing as Vic Vance for instance, since I really didn't feel like I could go around and kill anybody I wanted because of how he acts in the story.

I mean, of course I can do that but it just feels so off for Vic to be doing that in the game.

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DEALUX

The Stories games were a weak point in the series in my opinion. They felt rushed and poorly written.

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Leone_Son

Gritty, foggy, and dark Liberty City of GTA III is the reason why I still love this game.

 

Also ambients play at certain places and pedestrians sing songs like "She's on Fire" and "In the Navy" is a high point. 

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gts.
On 4/28/2019 at 1:02 AM, DEALUX said:

The Stories games were a weak point in the series in my opinion. They felt rushed and poorly written.

LCS it was a cheap GTA and spin-off from GTA III for the PSP, but sales were too good so they then ported it to the PS2.
VCS is another story, the game soundtrack was somewhat well made and expensive for it. Including a few impovements on the game as well, like the fightning system for example.

 

Anyway, I have the same feeling as you.

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LCLegend

The Stories games are fine in my opinion. I need to replay LCS but I remember that game being my first GTA and I remember having a lot of fun with it. VCS is actually pretty good. While some features still needed some refining, it genuinely improved a lot of elements LCS had, VCS is a good game.

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DEALUX

The story is weak in both games but I felt LCS was a bit better. VCS was weird and all over the place. It really made most people hate Lance I think.

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LCLegend
16 hours ago, DEALUX said:

The story is weak in both games but I felt LCS was a bit better. VCS was weird and all over the place. It really made most people hate Lance I think.

I don't know. I don't really remembering VCS being all over the place but I'm glad the story at least went somewhere, it had a protagonist, antagonist, and you had a goal to accomplish throughout the game. Lance was sort of annoying though, yeah, but I feel like LCS had that problem too with its' returning characters. Donald Love, for instance, seems very, very young in LCS and it's almost hard to believe the dude matures (and fattens) in 2 years time.

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Beato_dim
On 4/26/2019 at 6:35 PM, Lioshenka said:

Just steer left or right, and the car will magically flip back on its wheels.

It's only in V though, not in IV.

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Cjrememberthat

Because its awesome

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