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sivispacem

Working 20 hours a day isn't a "regular job", though. Not that I believe that for even the most fleeting moment either.

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sivispacem

Working 20 hours a day for any prolonged period of time is, quite simply, impossible.

It's either a massive exaggeration or a total fantasy.

Pulling the odd 14-hour day, yes, we all do it, but 20 hours a day as a fleeting occurrence, let alone regular, is frankly ludicrous. 

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sivispacem

I'm fully aware of the dreadful labour law situation in Mexico, what I'm pointing out is the mathematical impossibility of "regularly" working 20 hour days. 

 

The notion of having 4 hours a day for travel, subsistence and sleep, never mind any kind of leisure time, is so clearly utter bollocks that your continued insistence that its true borders on hilarious.

 

Even if you lived at work and ate on the job, you'd still succumb to sleep deprivation after a couple of days. 

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Syrens

I've barely been to school. I was only diagnosed with dyslexia 2 years go and I'm in my 20's. All through school teachers were just convinced I was stupid. 

 

But now I managed to start my own business after school and really don't need any college education to expand and grow myself. 

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Femme Fatale

I'm currently attending community college. (Yeah, I know, "Community college?? Hahaaha!" Please, don't rub it in). After I finish the two years, I'm transferring to a 4-year university. Oh, and this is happening in south Cali, not Tijuana. 

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lewiz6235

It's interesting since, depending on how you see 'College', I might actually qualify here seeing as I did study up to a Higher National Diploma in Accounting, but all the fuss and theoretical rubbish they brought forward for the bachelor's degree at university just gave me too much of a headache and thus I ended up failing two of my six exams as a result.

 

Still have no desire to go back, but hey worst case scenario I can always say I've partially completed the degree and thus making it that much easier to go back and finish should I ever need to!

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Big Molio
On 2/2/2019 at 9:04 PM, sivispacem said:

Undergraduate and postgraduate degrees here, but a huge admirer of technical colleges, trade schools and apprenticeships.

Academia isn't for everyone; some of the most able people I work with don't have any higher education qualifications and systems that recognise speciality through other means should be embraced. 

Agreed. The problem in the UK with university is that our previous Labour government decided everybody ought to go, even people who aren't really cut out for it. So what you have is a generation of kids who go and take degrees in completely useless subjects, ending up working in retail for a few pounds an hour when they leave, whilst at the same time saddled with thousands of pounds worth of student debt. At the same time you have young people who did plumbing and electrician apprenticeships making a fortune. 

 

I did an apprenticeship when I left school in 1990 at the age of 16, and went on to do vocation based diplomas (ONC, HNC, HND etc) 

 

I decided to go back to study a few years ago and finally got round to completing my master's degree in Electrical Engineering, having already worked in the industry for over 25 years. (I needed it to register with the IET as a Chartered Engineer)

 

It was really hard fitting it in around work, and getting back into academic mode after so many years out was a head-f*ck. I'd forgotten a load of the maths, and had to get used to referencing sources for the marks even if I was writing from my own knowledge or experience.

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garcia_walsh

most of the people don't go to college they self learn at their own pace, and some people go to vocational training institute to learn some skill in short period of time instead of spending their full time in college.

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Zello

I got a community college degree if that counts, currently going to a 4 year state University.

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Rhoda

I went to college. Here in the UK, college is the period that follows high school, and commonly lasts 2 years. Primary school takes you from 4 to 10, and then high school goes from 11 to 16. College for many covers 16-18, which I think is still a little early to expect people to know what they want to do. Anyway, I scraped through college thanks to lack of support and somehow found a place at university studying multimedia application and special effects technology. I hated every minute. I didn't graduate, I just stopped going. Feeling lost, I started to apply for whatever jobs would have me so I could at least support myself financially whilst I worked out what I even wanted to do or be known for. As luck would have it, I landed on my feet in a low rung healthcare assistant job and took to it like a duck in water. Over the last ten years I've made slow progress and while I won't reveal what it is I do now, I feel very lucky about my circumstances. Things could have been wildly different for me.

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Ned Bingham
On 2/17/2019 at 9:14 AM, FearThoseWhoFearHim said:

 

Eh, when I was in LG Electronics was working legally 10 hours, then adding 10 extra hours or more because of there some positions where you can't get out and some people just take a bath and sleep 2 or 3 hours and return to work again.

That's nothing. I used to work thirty hour days for months at a stretch. Had to do an enormous amount of time travelling to get back to the past so I could fit the 30 hours of work + sleep + meals + travelling into a regular 24 hour day. Time travel doesn't come cheap, but it was all worth it, what with the intergalactic overtime rates and all.

 

OT: I did a four year degree. It was kinda like being on the dole but with less guilt.

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sivispacem

Literally nobody believes you worked 20 hour days, because it's utter laughable bullsh*t. You might as well just admit you're embellishing for effect because continuing to insist its true is just a bit sad really.

 

Also, working 30 hour days is impossible, that's his point. He's taking the piss out of you.

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Self-Destructive Man

I never went to college, both 'cause I didnt had the money and I also because I was too lazy back then, though I think I might need to do college now. Maybe start in a Community College or something like that.

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Guest Billy Russo

I went but it really made no difference honestly. I ended up doing something completely different for a job, and I'm sort of complacent now. Of course that's largely on me, but I do feel like the whole thing was a giant waste of time. I was working with Computers doing Graphic Design and stuff and I felt like I knew most things already because I've basically self taught myself for years at home.

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Craigsters

I went to a vocational  High School and finished grade eleven, it was a basic education I had, all's you had to do is miss less then 18 days a school a year  and don't mouth off to the teachers and they'd pass you, School used to be called McArther and then changed it's name to tech, but still  has the same teaching ethics, it was mainly  a school for children, teens with  learning disability's and they're where teens from group homes and rough  Neighbourhoods, one quarter of the school had kids in wheel chairs, with MS. and any other disease's  that have them in a wheel chair!..

 

I tried working for a year and a half as a security guard when I was 19 and the job was minimum wage with no benefits, I quit after a year in a half after putting on weight and  having the sh*t scared out of me by a  fella guard who was huge and almost dropped dead  by me after he came back from patrol, my head voice said that's you in twenty years if you don't get out now!..

 

After quitting my security guard job I applied for disability and was on unemployment  insurance then welfare and then finally in 1994 was accepted for disability and have been receiving ever sense, I've lived at the same government subsidized housing one bedroom apartment sense I was  thirty and I just turned Fifty last month!..

 

Owe the government head shrinks tell me my education or spelling and writing is that of grade five general, I'm on disability for mild depression, a stomach ulcer and lack of proper education!..

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paperbagdude

I haven't gone to college - yet.

 

Currently in my second gap year, where I have worked as a technical assistance on a 4-star hotel for just about a year. Currently unemployed due to my contract being expired, so I am looking elsewhere.

 

I am going to study lab tech, so I can become a lab technician. Good salary, good rates of employment and many different fields to work in. I honestly look forward to it, as I am moving to the same city as my girlfriend and I will be able to get my own flat with student discount. With $900 granted by the state a month and a small part-time job nearby, I will do pretty great.

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Mr. Galloway

I just started a 4-year university stint, let's see how it works out.

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Outlaw Biker Viking

I’m not in college just yet. However, I have a younger sister who goes to Georgia Tech! :)

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Riqitch8
On 9/14/2019 at 8:17 PM, Billy Russo said:

I went but it really made no difference honestly. I ended up doing something completely different for a job, and I'm sort of complacent now. Of course that's largely on me, but I do feel like the whole thing was a giant waste of time. I was working with Computers doing Graphic Design and stuff and I felt like I knew most things already because I've basically self taught myself for years at home.

Oh man, I cannot tell you how much this reflects me right now. I've just started Year 2, and I feel like an utter mug for two reasons. One, for applying to do this degree when I feel like I should be doing something else (or at least the same course elsewhere), and two, not changing/transferring previously when I had the chance. I honestly couldn't care less about the work or the course, and I am contemplating suspending my studies until I decide what to do.

 

Any advice?

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Syrens

It's not the be all to end all.  I have my own house, which is mine's, not a rental, I'm 26, I live alone, I've no formal qualifications of any kind, and I have my own business which is doing well, planning on diversifying next year too, which should help increase profits overall, as well as provide me more of a daily challenge.

 

So in my experience, no, you don't need college to do something you like/want and you don't need college to make a life for yourself.

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JareCzech

I finished college of economics this year just for my parents. I will never be employed, I will rather shoot my brains out. But I started my own business and I am doing good so far. NOT thanks to the university tho, it was shiat and lost time. Whatever, main thing my parents are happy that I am first in family with degree. :D Plus university is here paid by state, so no cash lost.

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paperbagdude
On 11/12/2019 at 6:49 AM, JareCzech said:

Whatever, main thing my parents are happy that I am first in family with degree.

I usually don't support parents who force their children into college or dictate their choice of education, but it really seems like it makes them happy and proud to know you're the first to be academically educated, so good job 👍

 

Also, what can a degree in economics possibly do wrong? It might be beneficial for your future business plans and it probably gives you some authoritative ethos, since you have expertise within that field, if anyone should ever doubt your ideas.

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Guest Billy Russo
On 9/28/2019 at 12:02 AM, Riqitch8 said:

Oh man, I cannot tell you how much this reflects me right now. I've just started Year 2, and I feel like an utter mug for two reasons. One, for applying to do this degree when I feel like I should be doing something else (or at least the same course elsewhere), and two, not changing/transferring previously when I had the chance. I honestly couldn't care less about the work or the course, and I am contemplating suspending my studies until I decide what to do.

 

Any advice?

Only just seen this, but I'm literally the worst person to ask for advice. I took the first job that came along and went with it. Been complacent for years. Although if you don't enjoy the course I'd find something you do enjoy doing. Don't be stuck doing something you hate, life is too short. I actually enjoyed my Course, it just didn't teach me much, and I never got a job in it so it felt pointless.

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JareCzech
5 hours ago, paperbagdude said:

I usually don't support parents who force their children into college or dictate their choice of education, but it really seems like it makes them happy and proud to know you're the first to be academically educated, so good job 👍

 

Also, what can a degree in economics possibly do wrong? It might be beneficial for your future business plans and it probably gives you some authoritative ethos, since you have expertise within that field, if anyone should ever doubt your ideas.

Yeah, they support me in almost everything I do, or they at least dont force me to not do things, just tell me they dont like it and thats all. They also took me with them on all our trips around the World since I was born, I have visited so far 66 countries and most of it are with them, so as act of my gratefullnes I finished the school. But as you are saying, at least now I have that title to back me up. :D But honestly my whole bussines is built on common sense and bussines spirit, nothing else. Thank you anyway bro!

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Guest Billy Russo
13 hours ago, JareCzech said:

Yeah, they support me in almost everything I do, or they at least dont force me to not do things, just tell me they dont like it and thats all. They also took me with them on all our trips around the World since I was born, I have visited so far 66 countries and most of it are with them, so as act of my gratefullnes I finished the school. But as you are saying, at least now I have that title to back me up. :D But honestly my whole bussines is built on common sense and bussines spirit, nothing else. Thank you anyway bro!

Your parents sound great. I love my parents, but they always had this indifference to anything I did. They weren't unsupportive but they didn't really have any opinion at all. Really I could have probably used that push and advice to probably make better choices because I feel stuck in my life now and I never really had a good sense of what I wanted to do or where I wanted to go in life. It was all very overwhelming to me. I'm only 24 so things can definitely still turn around for me, but I do wish I was doing something better. Would love to travel more, but my social anxiety makes it really hard to do.

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On 8/20/2019 at 3:10 AM, Rhoda said:

 I didn't graduate, I just stopped going. Feeling lost, I started to apply for whatever jobs would have me so I could at least support myself financially 

That was me because no one taught me to work and at least I met a lot of wonderful people now are some friends, University is very expensive and I can't afford it but I am lucky having another "talents" (I hate that word) to survive.

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51 minutes ago, spectre07 said:

That was me because no one taught me to work and at least I met a lot of wonderful people now are some friends, University is very expensive and I can't afford it but I am lucky having another "talents" (I hate that word) to survive.

Having no life skills sucks. I left College not knowing how to do anything, even open a bank account. I felt so stupid, but in a way it forced me to adapt and I ended up learning all of those things by myself. I do think you should be better prepared when you leave for the real world, when I left College I basically got zero advice it felt like.

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