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Journey_95

Will GTA V be more appreciated after GTA VI?

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Journey_95

GTA IV is getting more love these days which is great to see. V made people appreciate it way more. At the same time it feels like any new GTA will be the most hated and people will prefer the older one so I assume V will get more appreciation as well after GTA VI.

 

At times I feel like it gets way too much hate, although it is way more flawed than GTA IV in my opinion there are still good things about it

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TheSantader25

I don't think so. The damage is too big to be solved. GTA O has only made it worse and it will continue to ruin people's view on V.  I just hope people give it another shot before VI since many judged it in 2013 and never touched it again and basically got the wrong idea in a short time. 

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SonOfLiberty

GTA V really only gets the wooden stick on this forum. Outside it's loved by casual gamers who don't care about things like the story, physics etc, but diehard GTA fans are much harsher so unless GTA VI somehow has a worse story, even more watered down physics etc I don't think it'll be anymore appreciated than it is now.

 

Even on this forum I don't feel it's as bad as it used to be be particularly since lets just say a few "colourful" characters don't grace the forum anymore.

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Grotti Vigilante

Usually, you never appreciate what you have until you don't have it anymore, and with GTA IV being a ten-year old game of the last generation consoles, everyone probably got nostalgic over it and forgot it's flaws and such even though it is still a great game in it's own right. Having said that, I doubt GTA V will have that same reaction since Online has tarnished the whole reputation of it for people like me who appreciate a well-written GTA story with great side-activities (which GTA IV kind of lacked for me). To me it feels like GTA V was just a reason to release GTA Online since that's where the effort all went after the game's release. If Rockstar could've gotten away with just release GTA O without a single-player experience I reckon they would've done it. So sadly, no, I think people will probably just look back and say GTA V was good until Online.

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3 hours ago, Grotti Vigilante said:

Usually, you never appreciate what you have until you don't have it anymore, and with GTA IV being a ten-year old game of the last generation consoles, everyone probably got nostalgic over it and forgot it's flaws and such even though it is still a great game in it's own right. Having said that, I doubt GTA V will have that same reaction since Online has tarnished the whole reputation of it for people like me who appreciate a well-written GTA story with great side-activities (which GTA IV kind of lacked for me). To me it feels like GTA V was just a reason to release GTA Online since that's where the effort all went after the game's release. If Rockstar could've gotten away with just release GTA O without a single-player experience I reckon they would've done it. So sadly, no, I think people will probably just look back and say GTA V was good until Online.

I don't think Rockstar thought GTA online would be still as popular as it is today with all the content they took from 5 and moved to online it makes sense why the single player is lacking more in-depth fun GTA mingames like vigelante

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Aquamaniac

I played GTA IV after I played V since I liked V so much, V is way better than IV and one of the most popular games of all times. I think your assumption is wrong, GTA V is not hated except maybe by a few.

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mde2

How come people assert on this forum so much that the majority of people hate GTA V when it simply isn't true. Take any old regular normie, ask them which GTA game is their favorite and I guarantee they'll say GTA V. That or San Andreas. This forum and other niche forums blow the amount of people who dislike V WAY out of proportion. Millions of people bought GTA V and thousands still play it. As I'm writing this about 80,000 people are playing GTA V according to steam and not taking into account consoles and non-steam copies of V, those numbers are nothing to scoff at on their own. So as it stands GTA V is already an "appreciated" game.

And similar to what I said before about the disproportionate amount of people who hate GTA V compared to those who enjoy it, most people understand GTA O and GTA V are separate products and differentiate between them. Again, look at steam. Most reviews have people with negative reviews stating something along the line of "The single player is good but the online is bad".

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SonOfLiberty
9 hours ago, Grotti Vigilante said:

Usually, you never appreciate what you have until you don't have it anymore, and with GTA IV being a ten-year old game of the last generation consoles, everyone probably got nostalgic over it and forgot it's flaws and such even though it is still a great game in it's own right. Having said that, I doubt GTA V will have that same reaction since Online has tarnished the whole reputation of it for people like me who appreciate a well-written GTA story with great side-activities (which GTA IV kind of lacked for me). To me it feels like GTA V was just a reason to release GTA Online since that's where the effort all went after the game's release. If Rockstar could've gotten away with just release GTA O without a single-player experience I reckon they would've done it. So sadly, no, I think people will probably just look back and say GTA V was good until Online.

As flawed as GTA V is I would still play it over the mess that is GTAO. I haven't played GTAO since just before the heists update, but now I just roll my eyes everytime I see something relating to GTAO because I have no idea WTF it is anymore.

 

It makes me wonder just how great GTA V could've been if GTAO wasn't tethered to it.

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18 hours ago, Journey_95 said:

GTA IV is getting more love these days which is great to see. V made people appreciate it way more. At the same time it feels like any new GTA will be the most hated and people will prefer the older one so I assume V will get more appreciation as well after GTA VI.

 

At times I feel like it gets way too much hate, although it is way more flawed than GTA IV in my opinion there are still good things about it

I'm feeling a bit nostalgic towards GTA V's single players and it's radio stations circa 2013.

I don't feel the same towards GTA Online or ever will.

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Darealbandicoot

GTA V will always be at the bottom of the GTA ladder for me due to it being obviously unfinished, half assed AND gimped on purpose for the turd that is GTA Online. But to answer the question, unless GTA 6 is even worse with horrible writing or only Online(in which case I'd appreciate V only slightly because it's able to be played offline) no V won't be fondly remembered. 

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TheSantader25
7 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

GTA V will always be at the bottom of the GTA ladder for me due to it being obviously Unfinished. 

Ironically it has more content than any GTA except SA and the story is as long as IV/SA if you count the total mission times(Even if you don't count the two path missions like heists). It sure as hell feels rushed towards the last LS part though. But unfinished isn't the right word. Unfinished is used for games like MGS V which don't have a conclusion. 

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mde2
1 hour ago, Darealbandicoot said:

GTA V will always be at the bottom of the GTA ladder for me due to it being obviously unfinished, half assed AND gimped on purpose for the turd that is GTA Online.

No it's not. GTA V is not unfinished at all. I don't even know how you could come to this conclusion. If you compare it to GTA Online today it looks a little unfinished, yes but you're forgetting that GTA V SP (and the original online framework) had to work within the limitations of the 360 and PS3. Sure content isn't available in SP but on PC you can re-enable it and again, that doesn't mean GTA V itself is unfinished. Keep in mind also that while they're based in the same map, they're two completely different games.

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Darealbandicoot
1 hour ago, mde2 said:

No it's not. GTA V is not unfinished at all. I don't even know how you could come to this conclusion. If you compare it to GTA Online today it looks a little unfinished, yes but you're forgetting that GTA V SP (and the original online framework) had to work within the limitations of the 360 and PS3. Sure content isn't available in SP but on PC you can re-enable it and again, that doesn't mean GTA V itself is unfinished. Keep in mind also that while they're based in the same map, they're two completely different games.

I really don't want to get into this conversation again. GTA V and GTA Online are NOT separate games. That's like saying Call of Duty multiplayer is a separate game from Call of Duty zombies.  And GTA V is EXTREMELY unfinished or badly written. Take your pick. 

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Davao

For me when GTA 6 comes out, I won't appreciate V that much as I did with IV when V first came out. I'm still playing V till this day and when VI comes out, I probably won't play V again.  I'm not a fan of the game at all.  I do respect other people playing it and being a huge fan of it.  I'm not sadly.

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TheSantader25
43 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

I really don't want to get into this conversation again. GTA V and GTA Online are NOT separate games. That's like saying Call of Duty multiplayer is a separate game from Call of Duty zombies.  And GTA V is EXTREMELY unfinished or badly written. Take your pick. 

Except COD SP doesn't have 60 hours of content in it's SP. R* could sell GTA V SP without online for 60$ and it still would be worth it more than many of the cash grabs in the market. Compare V to other SP games. It has more content. And while the story is worse than IV/SA in comparison to other open world games it's still far better. Especially the dialogues. GTA ONLINE is on the same disk sure but everybody with some sense know that it's a separate game. And let me tell you something about games pal. Story alone can't make or break a game. A game has soundtrack,atmosphere, map and details, story(which itself has dialogue, overall narrative and characters), gameplay(consisting of vehicles, weapons, physics and countless mechanics which I can't even mention all of them now)etc. 

Story is "a part" of the game and while it is V's flaw it doesn't turn it into an "unfinished" game. Just like IV's flawed "gameplay" didn't make it an unfinished game either. 

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burger_mike

Going back to V after playing RDR2 is making me hate it more. 

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Darealbandicoot
14 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Except COD SP doesn't have 60 hours of content in it's SP. R* could sell GTA V SP without online for 60$ and it still would be worth it more than many of the cash grabs in the market. Compare V to other SP games. It has more content. And while the story is worse than IV/SA in comparison to other open world games it's still far better. Especially the dialogues. GTA ONLINE is on the same disk sure but everybody with some sense know that it's a separate game. And let me tell you something about games pal. Story alone can't make or break a game. A game has soundtrack,atmosphere, map and details, story(which itself has dialogue, overall narrative and characters), gameplay(consisting of vehicles, weapons, physics and countless mechanics which I can't even mention all of them now)etc. 

Story is "a part" of the game and while it is V's flaw it doesn't turn it into an "unfinished" game. Just like IV's flawed "gameplay" didn't make it an unfinished game either. 

V's story and obvious cut content make it unfinished in my eyes. It's not the quality I expect from Rockstar. Just take literally almost any other Rockstar game and it feels complete story wise and gameplay wise whearas V is half assed. Also GTA Online is NOT a separate game. I had to buy GTA V to play it. GTA Online is just V's multiplayer. Also take San Andreas for example. MASSIVE amount of cut content but guess what? At no point did I say to myself "This feels rushed" unlike V which felt off at all times. Literally if you took the Rockstar logo off it, I would mistake this for a knockoff. 

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TheSantader25
14 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

V's story and obvious cut content make it unfinished in my eyes. It's not the quality I expect from Rockstar. Just take literally almost any other Rockstar game and it feels complete story wise and gameplay wise whearas V is half assed. Also GTA Online is NOT a separate game. I had to buy GTA V to play it. GTA Online is just V's multiplayer. Also take San Andreas for example. MASSIVE amount of cut content but guess what? At no point did I say to myself "This feels rushed" unlike V which felt off at all times. Literally if you took the Rockstar logo off it, I would mistake this for a knockoff. 

You're comparing V to SA. it's all my opinion but SA is the most complete game I've ever seen. Not just the most complete R* game but THE most complete game. If I had to compare any game to SA it would feel like an incomplete rushed game. IV would. RDR would too. RDR2 would too. It seems like you hate V with everything you have and ONLINE(which you insist on being the same game stubbornly which it isn't) and Rockstar's practices have shadowed your judgement But there are many people who appreciate the single player despite being aware of the flaws. VC had flaws. IV had flaws too but people look past them and see the advantages which are definitely higher than other games and pretty much on par with most R* games. You're just upset that V didn't have everything SA and IV had in one package. It's understandable. I was disappointed when IV didn't even have nearly half the features SA had. But overtime I appreciated lt for what it was. A great masterpiece. Not every game can beat my favorite game of all time. Nothing may ever do it. 

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Grotti Vigilante
14 hours ago, AreWomanMadeFromSand? said:

I don't think Rockstar thought GTA online would be still as popular as it is today with all the content they took from 5 and moved to online it makes sense why the single player is lacking more in-depth fun GTA mingames like vigelante

I suppose so. I still think that Rockstar would've chosen to do it on it's own though regardless. I heard one time that it was the kind of thing they'd been wanting to do for so many years.

 

7 hours ago, Miamivicecity said:

As flawed as GTA V is I would still play it over the mess that is GTAO. I haven't played GTAO since just before the heists update, but now I just roll my eyes everytime I see something relating to GTAO because I have no idea WTF it is anymore.

 

It makes me wonder just how great GTA V could've been if GTAO wasn't tethered to it.

GTA Online has practically turned into Saints Row. Whether that is a bad thing or not is subjective. GTA V is a flawed game, yes, but if it got half of what Online did I'd still be tempted to go back and play it today. Sadly, there's just not enough to draw me in though. I don't know what Vice City and San Andreas did, but they still manage to get me interested, even with 100% completion. 

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TheSantader25
6 minutes ago, Grotti Vigilante said:

Sadly, there's just not enough to draw me in though. I don't know what Vice City and San Andreas did, but they still manage to get me interested, even with 100% completion. 

I think that's a perspective thing. I still replay every GTA annually and I mostly have some nostalgic feelings towards SA and V. I still remember the first couple of days I played V in 2013. The atmosphere and hype I experienced those days were phenomenal and can't be described. Whenever I remember those initial days I want to replay V again and I do it every year. 

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Grotti Vigilante
Just now, TheSantader25 said:

I think that's a perspective thing. I still replay every GTA annually and I mostly have some nostalgic feelings towards SA and V. I still remember the first couple of days I played V in 2013. The atmosphere amd hype I experienced those days were phenomenal. Whenever I remember them I want to replay V again and I do it every year. 

I remember when I first played V too. I refused to let anyone else play with it, and I confined much of my time to playing it alone. Thing is, the story didn't interest me as much in the long run. San Andreas I was perfectly happy to play through all over again though earlier this year. I don't know why, but it feels like a greater reward. 

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TheSantader25
16 minutes ago, Grotti Vigilante said:

I remember when I first played V too. I refused to let anyone else play with it, and I confined much of my time to playing it alone. Thing is, the story didn't interest me as much in the long run. San Andreas I was perfectly happy to play through all over again though earlier this year. I don't know why, but it feels like a greater reward. 

The gameplay is pretty good IMO. I understand V is a really difficult game to enjoy if they don't like the characters. Most people respect Michael but Trevor is a very key character that if you don't like, you have to kiss enjoying the story goodbye even if you like the rest of the story. I'm glad I enjoyed his character. Still SA is the better game. But I really liked the exploration of "heist" theme in V's story with Trevor and Michael and whenever I want to experience it I replay the game. It's nice to have a change where the protagonists are professionals and do things right in comparison to other games instead ruining everything. For that I liked V too. The protagonists combined with Lester are very overpowered which while it hurts the drama in the story, it's a nice new perspective we don't see much in games. The mission design and dialogues are other things that attract me back to this game. I always love the banter between Michael and Trevor and I also like how R* removed the filler missions for more varied mission design in comparison to IV. 

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mde2
10 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

I really don't want to get into this conversation again.

then dont start it

 

10 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

GTA V and GTA Online are NOT separate games. That's like saying Call of Duty multiplayer is a separate game from Call of Duty zombies.  And GTA V is EXTREMELY unfinished or badly written. Take your pick.  

Like TheSantader said, firstly GTA V has 60 hours worth of content on it's own some of which can not be done in the multiplayer. You're comparing apples and oranges, and by the way COD Multiplayer and COD Zombies are two separate game(modes) in their own right. I don't even play COD but I know that one is a multiplayer deathmatch while the other is a co-op survival horror. Putting your stupid comparison aside, GTA Online and GTA V function as there own different things, fundamentally they are completely seperate.

 

And again, GTA V is not unfinished, its badly written yeah but I don't know what mental gymnastics you've done to construe that as "unfinished". Dan Houser isn't good at writing wackiness, which is what they tried to do in V but by saying it's unfinished is discrediting the work of hundreds of other people who put blood sweat and tears into a game packed to the brim with content. Both GTA V AND GTA Online.

Oh and by the way, I don't know if you know this but Rockstar (Lezlie Benzies) insisted around the time that GTA Online was coming out that it was a separate game. :V

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XAIKON

To those saying this game IS NOT unfinished..... Go ahead and solve the mt.chilliad mural....... oh that's right, wherever that was leading once upon a time got butchered and slapped into online.

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TheSantader25
1 minute ago, XAIKON said:

To those saying this game IS NOT unfinished..... Go ahead and solve the mt.chilliad mural....... oh that's right, wherever that was leading once upon a time got butchered and slapped into online.

So SA is incomplete because we never found the bigfoot?

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XAIKON
9 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

So SA is incomplete because we never found the bigfoot? 

Was there a mural shoved in your face alluding to bigfoot? Did it leak that bigfoot was planned and scrapped and shoved into online? So much stupid in your comment friend.

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TheSantader25
10 minutes ago, XAIKON said:

Was there a mural shoved in your face alluding to bigfoot? Did it leak that bigfoot was planned and scrapped and shoved into online? So much stupid in your comment friend.

You people still can't get this through your head. Online and SP are two different games. Look at the title. Since the beginning it was called GTA ONLINE. not GTA V MULTIPLAYER or GTA V ONLINE. Everytime you see something in online that doesn't exist in SP you think SP is unfinished. By your logic online is unfinished too. Is online unfinished because I can't find the Zancudo UFO or I can't find peyote plants to solve the big foot mystery? No! And I don't understand how you can call the mural SOLVED in online since it isn't solved. Dropping a Jetpack for you to buy doesn't make it "solved"? Especially since the Tunnel in the doomsday heist doesn't even look like anything showcased in the mural. That DLC is just a cheap update made based on the mount chiliad myths and it doesn't even seem to belong in the series. An AI like CLIFFFORD in GTA? I'm glad it isn't in SP. GTA ONLINE is clearly a different game because it doesn't even have anything in common with the rest of the series anymore. 

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Aquamaniac
17 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

I really don't want to get into this conversation again. GTA V and GTA Online are NOT separate games. That's like saying Call of Duty multiplayer is a separate game from Call of Duty zombies.  And GTA V is EXTREMELY unfinished or badly written. Take your pick. 

How is it unfinished? There is plenty to do between the missions or after the story is finished, the story itself has an reasonable end, even three alternative endings. Mafia 2 is unfinished since it's an open world game with no open world activities, you cannot even save outside missions and properly explore the map but this does no way apply to GTA V.

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Darealbandicoot
9 hours ago, mde2 said:

then dont start it

 

Like TheSantader said, firstly GTA V has 60 hours worth of content on it's own some of which can not be done in the multiplayer. You're comparing apples and oranges, and by the way COD Multiplayer and COD Zombies are two separate game(modes) in their own right. I don't even play COD but I know that one is a multiplayer deathmatch while the other is a co-op survival horror. Putting your stupid comparison aside, GTA Online and GTA V function as there own different things, fundamentally they are completely seperate.

 

And again, GTA V is not unfinished, its badly written yeah but I don't know what mental gymnastics you've done to construe that as "unfinished". Dan Houser isn't good at writing wackiness, which is what they tried to do in V but by saying it's unfinished is discrediting the work of hundreds of other people who put blood sweat and tears into a game packed to the brim with content. Both GTA V AND GTA Online.

Oh and by the way, I don't know if you know this but Rockstar (Lezlie Benzies) insisted around the time that GTA Online was coming out that it was a separate game. :V

Wow... Just wow. The delusion in your reply. Now I remember why I don't go near the V section anymore. Also if GTA Online is a separate game, tell me why do I need my GTA V disc to play it? Actually, don't. 

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Ondr4H

Probably not...I appreciate RDR2 by videos more than GTA V playing.

GTA V is not fun game(By GTA games ratio), every aspect scream "much realism" so you ended playing in director mode with invicibility.

Also story is forgettable and I dont have tension to play it again.

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