Treasure maps needs balancing?

[BUT THE BENZ]

tree-map near van horn (right side of the tracks)

loot-map at willow's rest hideout

rank-up map

loot-map from recovery mission for angus

treasure hunter encounter near monto's rest

 

alriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

 

[kcole4001]

10 hours ago, BatDracula said:

I'm playing on PS4 from November 1st, now above level 70 with well above 1200 dead bodies looted but never once gotten any Treasure Map from looted bodies. Have anyone else encountered such issues, If yes did you eventually get any Treasure Map from looted dead bodies? Rank up, Treasure hunters and Trees Maps are working fine though.

 

Played on Xbox one earlier this year where I gotten the Treasure maps from looted bodies frequently. Contacted R* support without much help with the reply that play another character cause the Treasure map issue if there is one can't be manually resolved by them. If any one else encountered such issue like mine please reply and tell me if you eventually started getting them by looting dead bodies.

 

@kcole4001 Saw you posting every two days with your favourite trusty tree spawn. Can you answer some of my questions.

1. Is there a cooldown on the Treasure hunters and the Tree spawns, Is that the reason you only post your tree spawns every two days.

2. And if there is really a cooldown, Is that on the same tree you picked the Treasure Map from or all the tree spawns.

 

Thanks for reading everyone and specially those who replies.

 

My camp is always near the Emerald Ranch area.

My routine is as follows:

1) head over to the Emerald tree, then go to Larned Sod and pick up the jewellery on the dresser, the Potent Snake Oil on the shelf by the door and whatever I may have used from the items on the table.

2) check the tree again, then look over to the low ridge if there is no map on the tree, where often there will be a treasure hunter.

 

As far as I can tell it kind of feels like there may be a 24 hour cooldown because it seems to work when I pick up the things from inside the cabin at Larned Sod, which are definitely replaced after 24 hours real time.

There are times I get maps on consecutive days, last week for example I got a map on 3 days in a row, so it's definitely not a 48 hour cooldown if there is one at all.

 

I generally only do Burned Town and Bard's Crossing as soon as I get them since they're the easiest and I'm getting rather lazy with the maps.

Last week's 3 day streak gave me maps for some other spots.

Edited November 20, 2021 by kcole4001
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[BatDracula]

9 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

 

My camp is always near the Emerald Ranch area.

My routine is as follows:

1) head over to the Emerald tree, then go to Larned Sod and pick up the jewellery on the dresser, the Potent Snake Oil on the shelf by the door and whatever I may have used from the items on the table.

2) check the tree again, then look over to the low ridge if there is no map on the tree, where often there will be a treasure hunter.

 

As far as I can tell it kind of feels like there may be a 24 hour cooldown because it seems to work when I pick up the things from inside the cabin at Larned Sod, which are definitely replaced after 24 hours real time.

There are times I get maps on consecutive days, last week for example I got a map on 3 days in a row, so it's definitely not a 48 hour cooldown if there is one at all.

 

I generally only do Burned Town and Bard's Crossing as soon as I get them since they're the easiest and I'm getting rather lazy with the maps.

Last week's 3 day streak gave me maps for some other spots.

Thanks for replying and all giving me all those valuable tips mate, appreciated.

[kcole4001]

1 minute ago, BatDracula said:

Thanks for replying and all giving me all those valuable tips mate, appreciated.

Glad to be of some help! 

[kcole4001]

Today's map:

 

Tree (Emerald)

Bard's Crossing - 1.11G

 

I picked up a map from the treasure hunter yesterday, but it's Blackbone Forest, so it can stay in my satchel for a while.

[BatDracula]

Happy news guys, An hour ago I got first treasure map from a looted body from a gang hideout near Armadillo, after looting 1310 bodies.

 

For future reference if any one else having the same issue as mine where you aren't getting the treasure maps by looting bodies contact R* support ASAP cause I don't think it's a coincidence that I got the map on same day when I contacted support this morning.

 

And clear your cache too and I'm not even joking cause I think that helped in my case.

 

Thanks.

[BUT THE BENZ]

in my experience you gotta use some maps, to find some maps. it's a loot/drop/recycle "system" or something, I guess.

try it, take an item you never use (bait or whatever) and then loot bodies, you'll probably pick it up and you never had that as loot before!

[Rev. Gnash]

 

100 maps to go.

[kcole4001]

Tree (Emerald)

Bard's Crossing - 1.39G

 

Random loot (no idea when I picked it up, but it's been in the last couple of days)

Burned Town - 0.66G

[kcole4001]

Today's treasure hunter find:

Burned Town - 1.38G

[kcole4001]

I didn't get a map for 2 days, but today (and it's a daily challenge )

 

Tree (Emerald)

Bard's Crossing - 1.27G

[BUT THE BENZ]

^same, looted a map yesterday while clearing a roadblock.

today, I ran into a (hostile) treasure hunter while delivering a bounty in strawberry

[Rev. Gnash]

Shaky - Boat Theft

North Tumbleweed

 

Treasure Hunter - near Roggs Station

Gaptooth Breach

 

Dynamic Event - Defend Travelers

Cattail Pond

 

Dynamic Event - Roadblock

Citadel Rock

 

 

[bevlian89]

On 12/16/2018 at 9:53 PM, fejkb said:

I want to ask you guys to check how many treasure maps you’ve found, what’s your lvl and how many gang hideouts did you clear (you can check it in awards. treasures found -> general, hideouts -> free roam)

 

I’m lvl 43, cleared 48 hideouts (+ ~20 ambushes) and I only had 11 treasures. 7 from lvling up. So that’s just 4 per ~70 activities. It’s either me being unlucky or R* should really look into that and balance it a little bit. I really enjoy doing it, but the reward is inaccurate.

To the OP / topic question I neglected to answer in my first post, yes I think they should be, but at this point I doubt payouts will ever change. A reward should be fair and ideally if was to remain within the realm of 1 to 2 bars per map, the random factor should roll BETWEEN 1 and 2 bars, not the same rng as stranger missions. Anything under 1 bar is an insult to the person collecting the reward. 

 

Some data of note, and since resetting my awards for 100 maps collected twice now, I have to say I’ve definitely seen some differences in amounts depending on WHEN I pick up the reward from the lockboxes / chests. Every time I rush to collect the little colored reward box or immediately grab, it gives me abysmal gold and cash. If I wait until my character stops leaning over and just idles for a moment ignoring the box THEN pick up, I seem to get a least a bar more, but the cash drops into the single digits (which is fine, it’s gold I’m after really). Here’s some loot data grabbed from chests around the map last month (PC, 2021). Sp and fp mean either slow pickup or fast pickup. Dig outta this what you will. I’m sure there’s some weird rng going on after those beta treasure glitches on console to prevent excessive earning. That’s what it seems like at least.

 

0.87 64$ hanging rock fp

0.98 105$ san luis shore fp

1.29 77$ n hennigans sp

1.73 134$ c hennigans sp

0.78 94$ hawks eye creek fp

 

0.84 112$ diablo ridge fp

0.96 65$ bards cross fp

1.69 86$ burned town sp

1.33 122$ citadel rock sp

0.52 100$ cumb. forest fp 

1.31 101$ calumet, wapiti sp 

1.26 131$ blackbone forest sp 

1.01 87$ little creek sp

1.28 143$ east watsons sp

1.74 119$ cumberland falls sp

 

0.79 137$ cattail pond fp

1.94 103$ lake isabella sp

0.72 114$ Bolger glade sp

1.54 80$ southfield flats sp

1.22 108$ n clingman sp

1.34 62$ o craighs sp 

0.73 $37 brandywine fp

1.53 111$ Viking tomb sp

1.48 69$ s roanoake sp

 

On a final note, f*ck 0.5G treasure maps. Gee, thanks for the shekels R*!

Edited December 3, 2021 by bevlian89

[BUT THE BENZ]

^word. I vaguely recall, 2 years ago or so, collecting a reward from a treasure in new austin, hennigans's stead north iirc.

it was 0.24 goldbars and...45 $, something like that. the lowest take EVER!

[kcole4001]

Well, I can show there's no cooldown on treasure maps with today's take:

 

Tree (Emerald)

Bard's Crossing - 1.24G

 

Treasure Hunter (found about 30 minutes later southeast of Twin Stack Pass)

Burned Town - 1.22G

Edited December 4, 2021 by kcole4001
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[No Homing]

You know you have bad luck with maps when from the last 5 resupply missions at McLeans House you got 0 treasure maps.

That place has always been a gold mine for me in terms of crazy high map drop rates, but maybe I have just too many maps on me now. 

I have 26 now, but possibly 1 or more dupes.

[kcole4001]

I haven't found a single map in a week, and this is my 0.25gold week for the dailies, so I've been playing more than average.

Looks like they've nerfed map spawns.

[Gettin up]

Did many maps recently.

Bard's Crossing - 0.92g
Hennigan's Stead central - 1.11g
Benedict Point - 1.36g
East Watsons - 1.36g
West Hill Haven - 0.62g
Hennigan's Stead north - 1.28g
O'Creagh's Run - 1.3g

[No Homing]

On 12/10/2021 at 7:00 AM, No Homing said:

You know you have bad luck with maps when from the last 5 resupply missions at McLeans House you got 0 treasure maps.

That place has always been a gold mine for me in terms of crazy high map drop rates, but maybe I have just too many maps on me now. 

I have 26 now, but possibly 1 or more dupes.

9 resupplies at McLeans without a map now, lol.

Meanwhile I keep looting maps from that lady who can ambush you near Copperhead Landing.

The last 3 or maybe 4 maps I looted (not counting trees and treasure hunters) were from that lady ambushing me.

Would like some variety, lol, but I have been grinding my ass off with trader stuff this week and my camps are always at Bluewater Marsh when grinding trader.

[kcole4001]

First map since Dec. 4

 

Treasure Hunter

Bard's Crossing - 1.63G

[kcole4001]

One random map per week seems to be the current drop rate 

 

Tree (Emerald)

Burned Town - 0.79G

[kcole4001]

I was only short a camp defend for the general dailies so I thought I'd give it another look..after 40 minutes nothing, even in the most reliable spot south of Valentine, but I did run into a treasure hunter for what it's worth (very little it turns out, both of today's maps equal one decent map).

 

Treasure Hunter

Burned Town - 0.47G.

 

I gave up after that, they've definitely nerfed the random event spawns and it's not worth the time for 0.15G per daily.

[kcole4001]

Picked up two maps today, nut only claimed one:

 

Tree (Emerald)

Burned Town - 2.0G  - first time! 

[parazight]

Back when I first started ranking up I ran treasure maps.  One of maps yielded a pamphlet.  This was about 3 months ago.  So, I've wondered since then; do only treasure maps drop these?  

 

Is there a loot table for treasure maps that is readily available?

 

All in all, I think maps are underpowered, unless they regularly drop pamphlets.  Like Capitale, it's generally not competitive profit-wise because bonuses for other mechanics are a regular thing.  

[kcole4001]

I don't think I ever got a pamphlet from a map lock box/chest, but then I don't pay much attention to anything except the gold amount, same for loot - there I only look for collectibles and often don't see that I've looted a treasure map.

You can get tonics and such, often opened ones, but usually I don't notice so can't really say how often.

 

Capitale will actually appear in regular missions occasionally, I got one note during the Sadie Adler mission I did for today's daily.

Sometimes I find them in random moonshine roadblock loot.

 

If there is a loot table I haven't seen it, but @CaliMeatWagon would be the guy to ask, he's the spreadsheet king.

Edited December 26, 2021 by kcole4001
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[Foxwolfe]

On 12/9/2021 at 10:00 PM, No Homing said:

You know you have bad luck with maps when from the last 5 resupply missions at McLeans House you got 0 treasure maps.

That place has always been a gold mine for me in terms of crazy high map drop rates, but maybe I have just too many maps on me now. 

I have 26 now, but possibly 1 or more dupes.

 

You can't hold duplicate maps.

[No Homing]

11 minutes ago, Foxwolfe said:

 

You can't hold duplicate maps.

You can with some maps.

[Foxwolfe]

Gonna need to see some proof of that one.

 

Not that I don't believe you, just not my experience with the game.

[Rev. Gnash]

@No Homing

 

I have had the same experience with map duplicates (Dakota River Bend).

This happens when I rank up; sometimes the reward map will be a duplicate of something I have in my satchel. The map will appear white (not grey) when you retrieve it from the mail.

 

 

Sidenote:

Bounty - the Baker Gang

Cattail Pond

 

Rank 840

Dakota River Bend

 

North Clingman

2 GB

 

Treasure Hunter  - near Heartlands Oil Fields

Bard's Crossing

 

Treasure Hunter - Citadel Rock

Citadel Rock

 

28th Day

Cattail Pond

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by Rev. Gnash