Treasure maps needs balancing?

[Triumph-Rat]

Just as an afterthought, I have proof absolute that I am a bad outlaw!

 

Found the Treasure Hunter, paid $5 for map, killed Treasure Hunter and looted her for 66c.

 

Now I KNOW that I just gave her $5 and was standing close enough to see which pocket she put it in so how did I not manage to get that back???

[Rev. Gnash]

If you have 29 maps in your satchel, you will not be able to loot or buy additional maps. 

 

 

 

 

[No Homing]

So apparently there's a 3 day cooldown on tree maps and npc hunters.

[Rev. Gnash]

Is that ingame or real time? I have spotted multiple tree maps and treasure hunters during play sessions (both solo and populated lobbies).

[No Homing]

5 hours ago, Rev. Gnash said:

Is that ingame or real time? I have spotted multiple tree maps and treasure hunters during play sessions (both solo and populated lobbies).

Real time. Weird, there's definitely a cooldown, maybe not 3 days then.

Maybe someone else spawned the tree map or hunter.

[Krommer]

8 hours ago, Rev. Gnash said:

Is that ingame or real time? I have spotted multiple tree maps and treasure hunters during play sessions (both solo and populated lobbies).

 

The same ones, though? I think the cooldown would be on the same ones? Are you going back to the same tree, then seeing a map again?

 

Or is there a cooldown on "any at all?"

 

I forget there is sometimes a treasure map on a tree, in the burned area, by "Rio Del Lobo Rock" where I go to

when there is a daily "Pluck a Condor"; there is sometimes a condor on the rock, or on the ground in that

burned tree area (that one is hard to see unless eagle eye, similar shape to a stumpy thing on the ground.)

Then I say, "Bonus! Treasure map!"

 

Also, before logging off today I noticed I have 16 treasure maps to do now (not counting duplicates still in my camp box, and

a coupon for one I can't use yet until I use the duplicate.)
 

 

Edited April 16, 2021 by Krommer

[Rev. Gnash]

5 hours ago, Krommer said:

 

The same ones, though? I think the cooldown would be on the same ones? Are you going back to the same tree, then seeing a map again?

 

Not the same tree. I, have encountered Treasure Hunters, in the same area (Not the same spot. However, that has occurred on rare occasions).

[AdamNortonUK]

Cooldown is 48 minutes usually per location as it is with most of the free roam random encounters. However I could be wrong and it's 48 minutes per treasure hunter / tree map location and 72 hours for that exact location you picked the map up from, so might be two types of timers involved as I've certainly encountered more than one treasure hunter though on the same day, both in different locations and may have been less than 48 minutes but I could be remembering wrong since I don't keep any track of the time when doing dailies.

 

My usual daily routine now is logging on my camp which is by Hanging Dog Ranch, so I either have a Hideout, Moonshine Roadblock, Campsite Defend or Moonshiner Posion/Destroy Moonshine mission, once I've clear whichever it is I then have Free Roam bounty spawning close by, so I grab them and take them to Strawberry, on my way I either encounter one of three things on a 3 day cycle in the exact same locations: Treasure Hunter, Grave Robber or Midnight Paw Legendary due to the other random events being locked out during the 'Bounty Mission'.

 

The grave robber I have to go back to after dropping off the bounty to actually accept to dig though, I don't bother with the Coyote since I've sampled him enough times now but I do take out the Treasure Hunter if I have the map space in my satchel.

So to increase your chances of Treasure Hunters or Tree Maps, it's best going near to a location during a bounty mission (not legendary), even better during a free roam bounty though since it's less work than going to a bounty board and being close to an area of a treasure hunter that you can ride past so they load in or something.

Edited April 17, 2021 by AdamNortonUK

[Krommer]

4 hours ago, AdamNortonUK said:

The grave robber

 

Ah, forgot all about those. I need to look at the RDO map sometimes, the one with junk like that.

It has literally been a year or more since I've seen a grave robber, just out and about.

[Rev. Gnash]

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm

Diablo Ridge

 

Treasure Hunter - Heartlands Oil Fields

Dakota River Bend

 

Treasure Hunter - Heartlands Oil Fields

Hanging  Rock

 

Bounty 1* (target escaped)

Brandywine Drop

 

Tree map - Dewberry Creek

Citadel Rock

 

Tree map - East Watsons

Blackbone Forest

 

Tree map - Moonstone Pond (daytime)

Blackbone Forest

 

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm

Citadel Rock

 

 

@No Homing

@Krommer

 

*The last four Tree Maps are from the last 24hrs. Two hours in the  morning 4/17 and two hours  early morning  4/18 (my playtime) - pop. lobbies of 16 players. Alot of red dots.

Edited April 18, 2021 by Rev. Gnash

[No Homing]

@Rev. Gnash Are you sure there weren't any other players around?

A friend of mine said there's a 72 hour cooldown on them, I'm not sure tbh. I feel like the cooldown is atleast 24 hours, though.

It's hard to tell for me, I have 2 PS4s and have 2 alt accounts, I often play with 1 of my alts alongside my main.

They could spawn a tree map or NPC hunter while my main is on cooldown, so it's hard to know how long the cooldown is.

Also, I don't know how easy it's to spawn a tree map or NPC hunter, I don't know if they can spawn during other random encounters and if so, during which encounters can they spawn and during which not?

I know if a LA is off cooldown is fairly easy to spawn but I often I have to go through other random encounters in the area before the LA spawns.

I did have the Katata Elk spawn while taking the Moonstone Pond random encounter bounty to the jail (I found a map during that) 

 

[Rev. Gnash]

17 minutes ago, No Homing said:

@Rev. Gnash Are you sure there weren't any other players around?

 

PS4 player (PS5 owner, damn thing is collecting dust waiting on "the next gen games").

 

Tree map - Dewberry Creek

Citadel Rock

*no players around

 

Tree map - East Watsons

Blackbone Forest

*two players hunting in the distance

 

Tree map - Moonstone Pond (daytime)

Blackbone Forest

*no players around

 

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm

Citadel Rock

*one player in the distance

 

 

[No Homing]

11 minutes ago, Rev. Gnash said:

 

PS4 player (PS5 owner, damn thing is collecting dust waiting on "the next gen games").

 

Tree map - Dewberry Creek

Citadel Rock

*no players around

 

Tree map - East Watsons

Blackbone Forest

*two players hunting in the distance

 

Tree map - Moonstone Pond (daytime)

Blackbone Forest

*no players around

 

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm

Citadel Rock

*one player in the distance

 

 

 

Hmm, might be a cooldown of just a day then. 

I'll have to do further testing just by myself.

I think the cooldown also kicks in if you don't grab the map, probably to avoid players using a friend or 2nd account to spawn maps over and over again.

That same friend asked me to spawn a tree map for him, it was over 24 hours ago since I last grabbed a tree map but after about 20 minutes or so I still hadn't spawned one.

Maybe I ran into 1 earlier without knowing. I think they can spawn from quite far away, if it's not night it's easy to miss it if you don't get right up to the tree.

 

[kcole4001]

I have definitely gotten maps from the Emerald tree after 2 days (48 hours real time), even while only playing briefly since before the latest pass came out.

I got one from a treasure hunter on the low ridge just to the north today, but generally I check that tree 2-4 times every day as my camp is always close by and my shine shack is above Emerald Stn.

(on PC)

[BUT THE BENZ]

On 4/17/2021 at 2:02 AM, AdamNortonUK said:

Cooldown is 48 minutes usually per location as it is with most of the free roam random encounters. However I could be wrong and it's 48 minutes per treasure hunter / tree map location and 72 hours for that exact location you picked the map up from, so might be two types of timers involved as I've certainly encountered more than one treasure hunter though on the same day, both in different locations and may have been less than 48 minutes but I could be remembering wrong since I don't keep any track of the time when doing dailies.

well, today I picked up 2 maps from the same tree near little creek river. one was at night (with a latern beside it), the other during the day. and I really don't think it was 48 minutes cooldown inbetween. went to momma watsons, skinned 4 chickens (1 rooster did NOT count, picky sh*t). I rode off and then found the 1st map stuck to the tree. then I went for lagras, wnated to get the last chicken, but none around. so I was checking the area for coins, not long really. also sampled the cows on the westhill haven ranch. not that time consuming. I then traveled back to the shack, and made my way towards momma watson again, for the last chicken. got that checked, rrode off again and in broad daylight I saw another map stuck to the tree. the same tree. same session. LESS than 48 minutes I suppose.

/just sayin.

 

PS: found 4 maps in this  session. tree-map at flat neck station, before the other two, and a lootmap from a roadblock near armadillo.

[kcole4001]

Went around clearing maps for as long as I could stand:

 

28 Day Reward

Lake Isabella - 1.23G

 

Tree (Emerald)

Burned Town - 1.18G

 

Treasure Hunter (near Emerald)

Bard's Crossing - 1.15G

 

Tree (Emerald)

Diablo Ridge - 1.35G

 

Random Roadblock Loot

Citadel Rock - 1.26G

 

28 Day Reward

Cattail Pond - 0.65G

 

Tree (Emerald)

North Tumbleweed - 1.1G

 

Treasure Hunter (near Emerald)

Gaptooth Breach - 1.56G

 

I still have 17 or 18 more to do.

 

 

[BUT THE BENZ]

when time has come to sort out maps (23+ ), I tend to start with all treasures located in new austin, then move on to the ones in west elizabeth and just see how far I can push my luck.

[kcole4001]

Did a couple today:

 

Tree (Emerald)

Kamassa River - 1.42G

 

Tree (Emerald)

North Clingman - 1.51G

 

That leaves me with 16, as I'd picked up another from the Emerald tree first thing today. (including 4 in the benefits section I haven't claimed - it allows me to claim maps I know I have in my satchel already )

2 of them are Brandywine maps which I'm not doing, they're a pain.

[Rev. Gnash]

Citadel Rock

1.91 GB

 

Treasure Hunter - near Riggs Station

Citadel Rock

*Kidnapped the treasure hunter and held him captive until I had room in my satchel. Looted his body for replacement map and released him.

 

Tree map - near Beecher's Hope

Hanging Rock

 

Rank 775

Bluewater Marsh

 

Dynamic Event - Roadblock

Burned Town

 

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm (daytime)

Cattail Pond

 

Tree map - Dewberry Creek

Burned Town

 

 

[~INDIO~]

On 4/27/2021 at 8:56 PM, Rev. Gnash said:

Citadel Rock

1.91 GB

 

Treasure Hunter - near Riggs Station

Citadel Rock

*Kidnapped the treasure hunter and held him captive until I had room in my satchel. Looted his body for replacement map and released him.

 

Tree map - near Beecher's Hope

Hanging Rock

 

Rank 775

Bluewater Marsh

 

Dynamic Event - Roadblock

Burned Town

 

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm (daytime)

Cattail Pond

 

Tree map - Dewberry Creek

Burned Town

 

 

What map are you using to find them? I've tried a couple of interactive ones and can't find any maps

[Rev. Gnash]

18 minutes ago, ~INDIO~ said:

What map are you using to find them? I've tried a couple of interactive ones and can't find any maps

 

I don't use online maps or interactive maps. These are random or looted when pursuing bounties, trader missions and/or stranger missions.

 

These encounters are scattered over days or sometimes weeks. Low lobby populations or solo lobbies make a world of difference. Especially with treasure hunters or treasure  maps found on trees.

 

 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Rev. Gnash

[~INDIO~]

21 hours ago, Rev. Gnash said:

 

I don't use online maps or interactive maps. These are random or looted when pursuing bounties, trader missions and/or stranger missions.

 

These encounters are scattered over days or sometimes weeks. Low lobby populations or solo lobbies make a world of difference. Especially with treasure hunters or treasure  maps found on trees.

 

 

They really should give us the option to have a solo lobby Anyways, thanks!

[BUT THE BENZ]

I stumbled upon a treasure hunter by accident, near the usual spots near wallace station. I recognized his coat. hogtied and looted him, but no map. he must have sold/lost a map to another player, which was nearby, seconds before I saw him. too bad. ran into a friendly hunter today though, white dot pop up encounter, and I got lucky with the tree near dewberry creek.

Edited May 9, 2021 by BUT THE BENZ

[Rev. Gnash]

Citadel Rock

1.96 GB

 

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm (daytime)

Citadel Rock

 

Treasure Hunter - Heartlands Oil Fields

North Clingman

 

Dynamic Event - Destroy Still

Cattail Pond

 

Dynamic Event  - Bounty at Moonstone Pond

Cumberland Forest West

 

Citadel Rock

1.97 GB

$84.41

 

Dynamic Event - Roadblock

Citadel Rock

 

Tree map - near Guthrie's Farm

Burned Town

 

 

[No Homing]

@Rev. Gnash You have more luck than me with bootleggers. The bounty at Moonstone Pond is a good one, though. I found 2 maps there.

[Rev. Gnash]

@No Homing

 

The last three months, I have been keeping maps in my satchel at around 28 - 27.

 

I have noticed, a slight uptick in looted maps. Whenever, I have that count.

 

In the past, soon as I reached 29 maps, I would redeem 10 or 15; making room for more. It seemed to take a lot more effort to find maps, with my old method.

 

 

Edited May 15, 2021 by Rev. Gnash

[BUT THE BENZ]

almost missed a map at the tree near guthrie farm today. was in the middle of bringing in the hostage for foreman, being chased by lawmen. ran near the tree and then saw it (the map was facing the guthrie farm, "hiding") but I couldn't take it, no interaction button occured while they the police was onto me, so I fed them lead and eventually was able to grab the map. phew! bad memories of maps disappearing right before my eyes...but this one was to keep!

[kcole4001]

Tree (Dewberry)

Hanging Rock - 1.38G

 

Random Roadblock Loot

San Luis Shore - 1.66G

 

Pass Reward

San Luis Shore - 0.92G

 

Reward

San Luis Shore - 1.43G

 

Tree (Emerald)

Bard's Crossing - 0.6G

 

Treasure Hunter

Citadel Rock - 0.5G

 

Tree (Emerald)

Burned Town - 0.91G

 

Which led me to my long time goal:

 

 

Still have 13 maps in my satchel, but have claimed all from the rewards before they expire.

If only I could trade my 18 free mash refills for something useful...I've been drinking the same batch of shine since the daily challenge nerf. 

[kcole4001]

Seeing as one of today's dailies was to do a treasure map:

 

28 Day Reward

Southern Roanoke - 0.7G

 

Random Help Stranger Loot

Bluewater Marsh - 1.42G

[BUT THE BENZ]

sitting on the last map coupon, but need to get rif off the satchel map first. san luis shore...*sighs*

I love the area for visuals, hate the territory though when riding through. lake don julio is eye candy, the rocks are poison for the horse though.