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Got my first treasure map from a hideout. East Watson.

Hit lvl 55, got the same map.

So, did it first, then got it again from post, did it again.

 

Noice 😎

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Next-Gen Vercettis

I forgot about this thread and meant to post.

My treasure for level 30 was around $135. For level 35 it was around $35.

Haven't reached level 40 yet, but if that pattern continues I'm going to owe the game $65..

 

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Past few days I focused more on hunting and stuff, but designed my routes around hideouts. I forgot to check how many did I complete, but I guess over 20. How many treasure maps? 0. Last hideout today had ~15 bodies with MAX value of 0.22 cents. Totally worth it...

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3 hours ago, Next-Gen Vercettis said:

I forgot about this thread and meant to post.

My treasure for level 30 was around $135. For level 35 it was around $35.

Haven't reached level 40 yet, but if that pattern continues I'm going to owe the game $65..

 

Lol. Thanks for the heads up. Better leave those maps at the post office then!

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I hit level thirty and got the Diablo Pass treasure map last night. Tonight I got another Diablo Pass treasure map from looting dead enemies at gang camps. I'll open the map and go look for it tomorrow.

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On 12/17/2018 at 3:03 PM, fejkb said:

I’ve pointed out where to find these stats in my first post ;)

So I checked my game and by the stats I’ve cleared 7 hideouts and found 5 maps.

 

I’m pretty sure the hideouts number isn’t correct tho, because I remember several hideouts which I attacked and seemed bugged, the game didn’t prompt the gang hideout, nor gave me any extra xp for clearing the hideout. But there it is.

As I said I got nothing to complain at lvl 22. Plenty of maps found.

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1 hour ago, Fatsanchez said:

So I checked my game and by the stats I’ve cleared 7 hideouts and found 5 maps.

 

I’m pretty sure the hideouts number isn’t correct tho, because I remember several hideouts which I attacked and seemed bugged, the game didn’t prompt the gang hideout, nor gave me any extra xp for clearing the hideout. But there it is.

As I said I got nothing to complain at lvl 22. Plenty of maps found.

Yep. Pretty good ratio. 2 maps from 7 hideouts and 3 from lvls. 

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11 hours ago, fejkb said:

Past few days I focused more on hunting and stuff, but designed my routes around hideouts. I forgot to check how many did I complete, but I guess over 20. How many treasure maps? 0. Last hideout today had ~15 bodies with MAX value of 0.22 cents. Totally worth it...

My sentiments exactly. In my experience, hideouts (and ambushes!) are badly borked.

 

If you get killed before taking out all the gang members, the game acts as if everything is over, but there are usually 3-4 gang members still wandering around (even one derp behind a Maxim gun who apparently can't see or hear you walk up to him and fill him lead).

 

In a number of hideout locations, there's zero lootable items in the camps themselves both before--and after--the hideout shows up.

 

The "lootable money" from NPCs is a bad joke--not just in gang hideouts, but any NPC in the game. Don't even get me started on how badly the "cover" system *doesn't* work, and how the bodies of gang members I've killed disappear (mostly in ambushes) before I've even had a chance to loot them for the pennies and alleged treasure map.

 

There is a TON of bugs, missing content, and not-so-little details about this game that requires meticulous attention if they're going to work at all. IMO, it's going to be six months or more at least before this game is even worth being called a "beta".

 

Everything about it screams "early access" alpha.

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Ive almost quit even doing the hideouts the rewards have been so paltry.  Dont know how many ive done but its at least 20 and ive never gotten a map from them and usually it amounts to about $3 or $4 in loot change and a few provisions.  I can make more money killing almost any 1 animal in the game so whats the point??

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It's fun to shoot guys and the XP is decent?  Definitely needs a better monetary reward though. These are bandit HQs, there should be a good amount of ill gotten gains lying around for you to get illly.

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I clear em simply cause it’s fun, I might have collected 4 maybe 5 from hideouts and ambushes. Done a bunch of both for only being lvl 24

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62 hideouts atm and few ambushes more and for sure there is something wrong with counter. I cleared out ~5 hideouts today and ~20 yesterday. Between Sunday and today I've done a lot of these and it's just not possible I only finished 14 of these. I even might say my average hideouts per day could equal 14, but not 4 days. Ofc no treasures since then.

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who, at what level, found a map, and where!? when, back in the days?

seems this has been nerfed without telling us eh?

also, can we collect info and make a list of ALL hideouts "available"?

also, also: does a treasure always give you 0.44 gold and round about 115 dollars? are the maps you get every 5 ranks different from hideout maps, as in pay differently?

 

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got one yesterday at Bacchus station.

25 minutes ago, BUT THE BENZ said:

who, at what level, found a map, and where!? when, back in the days?

seems this has been nerfed without telling us eh?

also, can we collect info and make a list of ALL hideouts "available"?

 

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okay cool! what lvl are you, and how much was your reward?

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will see what's what for myself then

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Next-Gen Vercettis

So I got my level 40 reward today. 

0.5 gold

$40.74

So about $5 more than I got for level 35. 

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13 minutes ago, Next-Gen Vercettis said:

So I got my level 40 reward today. 

0.5 gold

$40.74

So about $5 more than I got for level 35. 

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Ouch, that's some rotten luck with the maps, lowest I've gotten is $70 and .6 gold, they really need to up the minimum reward we can get from the maps. I feel like $80 and .65 gold would be a good minimum reward. With how rare the maps can be they should pay more than they sometimes do.

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Next-Gen Vercettis
4 minutes ago, TiberiusMcQueen said:

Ouch, that's some rotten luck with the maps, lowest I've gotten is $70 and .6 gold, they really need to up the minimum reward we can get from the maps. I feel like $80 and .65 gold would be a good minimum reward. With how rare the maps can be they should pay more than they sometimes do.

Is it bad luck? I honestly don't know if level rewards are random or if it's just bugged for me.

I used the Xbox capture to record opening the chest and the reward to double check but I really don't think I can be bothered filling a support ticket for it. 

If I get $45 for level 45 then I guess I'll have my answer but then getting $135 for level 30 doesn't make sense. Unless the rewards were lowered. 

 

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where can I see how many hideouts I have cleared? I can't find that in the menu?!

 

also: last night I was ambushed by bandits, near cumberland falls, and that "gang hideouts cleared" message popped up at some point. it was quite the fight, and that LAST enemy was up some hill I couldn't even see. I looted everyone except the LAST enemy who I didn't even kill because there were two other players who got to him apparently. well, I go there to see the dead body, NOT able to loot him, one of the players (chief-rulez-u or something) is next to it afk.  I think to myself wtf?! was that an important bandit I should have looted?! well I hover over the body again and suddenly I CAN loot, but then the player kills mebefore I am done. next I spawn somehwere else too far away, and when I get back everything/everyone's gone.

 

MEEEEEH

 

 

 

 

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if the message "gang hideout/ambush" cleared poped up and there was an enemy left, this enemy doenst belong to the gang.

sometimes the enemies mash between different missions. I.e. i foud a gang hideout, which was the stranger mission location for another player at the same time.

 

he took care of his mission objective (stage coach), while I cleared the hideout.

 

on topic: cleraed about 10 hideout, level 25 and never got a map.

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Sixteen gang hideouts cleared, and I’ve got a total of four treasure maps (not including ranking up maps).

 

The hideouts are kind to me.

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where does it say how many hideouts I've cleared?

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Just now, BUT THE BENZ said:

where does it say how many hideouts I've cleared?

Go to the progress tab in the main menu, select awards, then select free roam, and one of the tabs shows how many hideouts you’ve cleared.

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Level 50, 90$ and 0.8 gold I think

On 12/20/2018 at 5:27 AM, BUT THE BENZ said:

okay cool! what lvl are you, and how much was your reward?

 

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Level 27, 14 hideouts cleared, 4 treasure maps all from rank unlocks.  I'd also say I've cleared 7-10 random attacks

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Gritty Garvey

Not one treasure map found at a gang hide out in 41 levels for me. I'm unlucky. 

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