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Arena Wars - What is Skill Level exactly?

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Wunder
1 minute ago, Classique said:

Personal.

This news makes me very very happy. Thank you!

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Lonely-Martin
Just now, StangOne50 said:

Nice so I can just set it to 7 rounds and have the other guy keep killing himself, I guess that wont be too bad

4 rounds max I thought but if 7, even better.

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Classique
7 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

4 rounds max I thought but if 7, even better.

Tag Team and Carnage are the best modes, as they can be done fairly quickly. :p  

 

Edit: I might add, Carnage cannot have rounds applied, and Tag Team can only have two rounds.

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Wunder
10 minutes ago, Classique said:

  Carnage cannot have rounds applied, and Tag Team can only have two rounds.

Here Come the Monsters could work! Destroy your friend when they're the Issi and when they're the Sasquatch, they can just die in the fire trap until time runs out. If I remember correctly, you can set it for 4 rounds too!

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StangOne50
39 minutes ago, Classique said:

Rounds. Four rounds = four wins.

 

Edit: Gamemode does not play a role, but you have better chances of winning Team-based Wars, compared to Last Man Standing wars.

I am still skeptical. To get from skill 12-13 I did  13 race wins AND 7 rounds of monster 3 winning all but one race. I mean unless 1 loss sets you back 7 wins otherwise those 7 rounds did not really count other than 1 win for the match. Even then I did the 7 rounds between the races so I should have needed only 12 race wins instead of 13. IDK confused atm lol

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Classique
2 minutes ago, StangOne50 said:

I am still skeptical. To get from skill 12-13 I did  13 race wins AND 7 rounds of monster 3 winning all but one race. I mean unless 1 loss sets you back 7 wins otherwise those 7 rounds did not really count other than 1 win for the match.

A good question indeed. As of right now, Irish, WildBrick and I are still fumbling around the match behind this. We know the basics of how one can increase it, but not exactly how it decreases. We might have an update on that tomorrow, if they ever get finished with their grinding :lol: 

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CaliMeatWagon
22 hours ago, 555-We-Tip said:

How in the world did they decide on what vehicle was unlocked in which tier? Who truly believes the tractor is somehow a coveted vehicle? It makes no sense to me.

 

I think R* did it on purpose so they can laugh at all the people bitching about how much they have to "grind" to get the tractor. I believe it's to make fun of the consumerism that so many players here are trapped in.

"Oh, oh, but I NEED to own everything and keshkurds prevent me." 

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Lonely-Martin
28 minutes ago, StangOne50 said:

I am still skeptical. To get from skill 12-13 I did  13 race wins AND 7 rounds of monster 3 winning all but one race. I mean unless 1 loss sets you back 7 wins otherwise those 7 rounds did not really count other than 1 win for the match. Even then I did the 7 rounds between the races so I should have needed only 12 race wins instead of 13. IDK confused atm lol

Irish, on page one, came 2nd and lost 3 levels so it does look punishing to not win, IMO.

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CaliMeatWagon
On 12/11/2018 at 1:30 PM, Classique said:

Basically a sub of collected info about Skill Level. What do we know? 

 

First, there's a difference between Arena Points (AP) and Skill Level (SkL).

AP is something that is granted to a player, like RP, after a round of Arena Wars, but only if you have an Arena Workshop. If you do not own an Arena Workshop, RP will be awarded instead. Everytime you level up with AP, you get a "sponsorship reward", which will grant you a random "discount" for a random outfit, random vehicle and random vehicle upgrade from the Arena Wars update. 

SkL is also a level, but it works in another... odd way. 

You start as Skill Level 0 at the very start after you've purchased an Arena Workshop. After you've won your first Arena War, it will permanently increase to Level 1, and will stay at Level 1, and cannot decrease from there.

But how do you level up?

Simple; win Arena Wars. Or, well... Not that simple, actually. 

Your level determines how many rounds you need to win to level up your Skill Level. So for example, if you're Skill Level 1 and want to get to Level 2, you need to win 2 rounds. Gamemode doesn't matter. And if you're level 3, you need to win 3 times to reach level 4, and so on. And if you wish to get from level 19 to level 20, you need to win 19 times. Level 20 is the highest Level there is.

 

Here's the math:

1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19 = 190 (+1 if you go from Level 0 to 1 after you've freshly bought the Areana Workshop).

 

But... There's a catch. 

Everytime you lose a round, your Skill Level will decrease. That, in short, means that you need to have 190 more wins than you have losses to get go Rank 20, if you never went below Level 2. It will also count as a loss if you leave an Arena War round. 

 

 

 

And that's why I suggest grinding them with a friend. Let your friend continuously win over you. 

 

 

REWARD:

For each Skill Level, you will get awarded a Platinum Award and a small amount of cash that increases for each level.

Being able to purchase the Go Go Monkey Blista for free once you reach Level 20.

 

 

Also, to avoid confusion; The Skill Level you see when another player wins an Arena War is THAT persons' Skill Level, NOT yours!

 

 

 

I would like to thank @irish.chrand @WildBrick142 for helping me get to these conclusions with in-game tests. They are some amazing bois.

 

I'm adding this to my sheet. You peoples are awesome

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Lonely-Martin
3 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

 

I think R* did it on purpose so they can laugh at all the people bitching about how much they have to "grind" to get the tractor. I believe it's to make fun of the consumerism that so many players here are trapped in.

"Oh, oh, but I NEED to own everything and keshkurds prevent me." 

If so, they must habd had a real giggle with the Epsilon Tee and thought 'let's really get 'em' lol.

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CaliMeatWagon
13 hours ago, Shadowfennekin said:

You mean I'm going to have to FIND somebody to help me reach 20? *sigh*

Well looks like I'm never getting the Blista. :/

I've been posting Heists ads since 2015 and never get responders so I doubt this'll be different

 

AP just takes time and is relatively easy to get even playing with randoms. Not sure why you need wins handed to you. 

 

8 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said:

AP will just grow and not drop I believe, it's the skill level I want and if as above, we lose skill for even 2nd place, to grind it is gonna be hard-core as we'll literally have to keep winning until it pops, and of course, keep losing to return favour.

 

Madness, lol.

 

(Unless I misunderstood things of course).

 

I think that is because skill level is supposed to be earned, by, um, having skills. It would be pretty stupid if somebody get the highest ranking, without having the skill, just because the spent enough time on something. I also think it's equally stupid to trade wins. 

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Lonely-Martin
Just now, CaliMeatWagon said:

I think that is because skill level is supposed to be earned, by, um, having skills. It would be pretty stupid if somebody get the highest ranking, without having the skill, just because the spent enough time on something. I also think it's equally stupid to trade wins. 

The benefits of friends/crew dude, there are no rules. Besides, 190 consecutive wins, ain't happening aside maybe, maybe, one in a million.

 

Think what you want, I genuinely don't care. I want that car. You ain't raining on my parade here, lol.

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White Shark
23 hours ago, alkaline_ said:

after 6 hours of playing i'm still fluffy skill 1 hihihi (and rank 17 ((including some 5000 dollar spins on this uncrunchy wheel))). i feel blah.

How do I attain fluffy skill 1?  That sounds far more expert than standard skill 1!  

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CaliMeatWagon
Just now, Lonely-Martin said:

The benefits of friends/crew dude, there are no rules. Besides, 190 consecutive wins, ain't happening aside maybe, maybe, one in a million.

 

Think what you want, I genuinely don't care. I want that car. You ain't raining on my parade here, lol.

As far as I know there is nothing locked behind skill level, it's all locked behind AP, which doesn't take any skill, just time.

 

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Lonely-Martin
1 minute ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

As far as I know there is nothing locked behind skill level, it's all locked behind AP, which doesn't take any skill, just time.

 

Go-Go Blista at level 20 skill rank. 

 

I want that car. Tough! Take all the shots you want dude.

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CaliMeatWagon
1 minute ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Go-Go Blista at level 20 skill rank. 

 

I want that car. Tough! Take all the shots you want dude.

At AP rank 20, not skill level 20. 

The last vehicle unlock is at Tier 1000, skill level only goes up to 20. Skill 20 unlocks the FREE price for the Blista.

 

Tier 20 - Go Go Monkey Blista
Tier 25 - Taxi
Tier 50 - HVY Dozer
Tier 75 - Clown Van
Tier 100 - Trashmaster
Tier 200 - HVY Barracks Semi
Tier 300 - HVY Mixer
Tier 500 - Space Docker
Tier 1000 - Tractor

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Lonely-Martin
2 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

At AP rank 20, not skill level 20. 

The last vehicle unlock is at Tier 1000, skill level only goes up to 20. Skill 20 unlocks the FREE price for the Blista.

I'll know soon. It's possible I misread that as I saw you post a min ago elsewhere.

 

Still, loads of awards and cash bonuses though. Want those too. :)

 

Each their own. 

 

* Edit. Classique's OP says otherwise though.

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CaliMeatWagon
1 minute ago, Lonely-Martin said:

I'll know soon. It's possible I misread that as I saw you post a min ago elsewhere.

 

Still, loads of awards and cash bonuses though. Want those too. :)

 

Each their own. 

The information I have is from the data miners of this game. Like @Fun 2

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thepiebaker
On 12/12/2018 at 8:57 AM, Lonely-Martin said:

AP will just grow and not drop I believe, it's the skill level I want and if as above, we lose skill for even 2nd place, to grind it is gonna be hard-core as we'll literally have to keep winning until it pops, and of course, keep losing to return favour.

 

Madness, lol.

 

(Unless I misunderstood things of course).

at least with xbox if you have 2 systems (mine +fiance for example) you can have a dummy account and farm wins. A "home" xbox can share digital games and xbox live membership with accounts on the home xbox. (So I own a digital copy of x, y, z game and pay one xbl membership and my fiance has them too) I have been going for 3 hours as of this post and skill lvl 6.

 

Just gotta remember not to have the dummy acct time out.

 

From what I know in the month i had a ps4 and my account getting hacked day 1 it works the same 

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Lonely-Martin
4 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

The information I have is from the data miners of this game. Like @Fun 2

To be fair, much like you, I trust Fun and Classique and with mixed info, be fair as how am I to know, lol.

 

And Wildbrick helped Classique. He knows the data too I believe.

 

I'm almost at 20. I'll know in a few.

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Lonely-Martin

@CaliMeatWagon.

 

AP rank 20 now. And I unlocked a Paco Mask (or something like that).

 

No Blista though, changed sessions to be sure too. Your info is wrong I'm afraid, sorry.

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WildBrick142

Yeah the Blista is at skill level 20, not AP rank 20.

 

In fact I posted about it yesterday
 

On 12/11/2018 at 5:28 PM, WildBrick142 said:

New info!

 

Go Go Monkey Blista is NOT dripfeed.

 

It's a reward for reaching max skill (skill level 20, not it's not the same as the Arena Points rank) in Arena War

ARENA_MAX_SKILL = The Dinka Go Go Monkey Blista is now available on southernsanandreassuperautos.com.

 

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StangOne50
2 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

@CaliMeatWagon.

 

AP rank 20 now. And I unlocked a Paco Mask (or something like that).

 

No Blista though, changed sessions to be sure too. Your info is wrong I'm afraid, sorry.

Maybe its just to unlock the trade prices but unavailable till R puts the vehicles in the game. IDK I thought this chart was taken from the game files.

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CaliMeatWagon
5 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

@CaliMeatWagon.

 

AP rank 20 now. And I unlocked a Paco Mask (or something like that).

 

No Blista though, changed sessions to be sure too. Your info is wrong I'm afraid, sorry.

I am, I just re-read his twat and I got them mixed up.

 

Spoiler

 


 

Spoiler

 

 

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Lonely-Martin
1 minute ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

I am, I just re-read his twat and I got them mixed up.

It's all good dude. Always good to confirm all info. 

 

Peace out. :)

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StangOne50

Ok then where is my Taxi lol whats up with this list man!

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Lonely-Martin
2 minutes ago, StangOne50 said:

Ok then where is my Taxi lol whats up with this list man!

I saw in Cali's knowledgebase thread just now another has gotten the taxi. Maybe a session bounce, or re-enter/exit the property as I notice sticker unlocks can pop up when I did.

 

I'm unsure otherwise though. 

Edited by Lonely-Martin

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Nerfgoth

Is the AP set in stone for the winner? Need to get all trade prizes before stuff goes on sale!

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WildBrick142

After some testing with @irish.chr, we can confirm that winning rounds does not increase your skill level. You have to win matches for it to count.

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Lonely-Martin
44 minutes ago, WildBrick142 said:

After some testing with @irish.chr, we can confirm that winning rounds does not increase your skill level. You have to win matches for it to count.

Crap!

 

Thanks though. :)

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