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CaliMeatWagon

Knowledge Base - Arena Wars

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thepiebaker

I have a hard time believing there are 1000 unlockable discounts, especially with some unlocking multiples. Do we know at what level the discounts are all unlocked at?

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Piro
On 12/14/2018 at 12:26 PM, Piro said:

In Area Wars if someone is trolling, attacking his own team, running away without delivering flags - just lag the game (the same way you do to get empty lobbies)

I just did that in a match 3v3 and I still relieved 80 AP (after winning one match, not sure if thats nesesery) 


Little update on this - I just lagged out after 5sec from a game full of people and I still received 160 AP.  This might be the fastest way to grind those random unlocks (not counting spin2win).
But I think it depends on the mode cause it doesn't work every time. 

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thepiebaker
On 12/14/2018 at 3:48 AM, Foreverpast said:

 

True, however the vehicle generally shuts off when I exit the drivers seat & in jobs spawns off.

The issue are those "hey I need a ride moments" or "it'll be quicker if I just ride with you" when other players come up.

The Brutus is a killer on all sides to teammates, to a lesser extent on the sides as long as the player initiates the enter vehicle button.

 

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the blades otherwise, everything about them on all sides is an advantage, however at the same time in co-op play there's an unnecessary level of caution one must have when in the drivers seat. Over time I know people will catch on, but it occurs I'd say 1/5 missions. Which is way too often given nothing is required on the Brutus driver's part. In free-roam business & vip work, the semi-rushed moments have led to a few allys not taking their time & getting sliced up too.

 

I played "Cleaning the Cat House". Foolishly I decided to drive up alongside the hotel to trigger Anna/npc to come out to me as my teammates cleaned house. Well......she ran right around, cut down by the back saw. Other than that, out of the 4 hours I played this evening, around 30-35 allied players (business, missions, etc) have been killed by my Brutus' blades.

 

Also passengers need to watch their step when exiting.

Since the side blades retract when the vehicle shuts off/driver exits, generally the passenger should wait a second.

Otherwise it's a gamble if you are in tight quarters when exiting.

 

I'll check it out tomorrow, if nobody has responded by then I'll let you know.

 

Since the Brutus' special/final ram blade is actually an instant kill even with a 1mph tap on any npc or player on foot, I'd assume that electric fence ram works as designed.

However don't buy it on that assumption of mine, wait until someone figures it out.

 

I'm not crying about the unlock factor personally, in fact I welcome it.

However the unlocks do seem underwhelming, given they are just Pegasus vehicles for recreational use, compared to what was handed to us at the start of this update.

Now if we could change paint on them or store them in a garage, indeed quite the treat to unlock.

What bothers me about the pegasus vehicles are they've been in since launch. Kind of a kick to the crotch to lock them away like that. We should be able to bring them in and mod the hell out of them. I mean come on a modified dozer would be a blast to wreck things around in. I'm also disappointed the Cerberus ain't the wrecking crew that the comparative behemoth was in death race. Imagine an arena mode that was akin to bombushka rush but the defending players were in that beast and instead of khammikazie buzzards we all had our arena vehicles.

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capton_cutclass

So basically they realistically only expect you to go for the 500 mark...and anyone crazy enough to do it and still crazy enough to go 500 more and get the tractor wins the game or loses? I dont know which...

 

I dont know. I'd like to get these vehicles...I just dont want to commit to grinding on this...when i could be playing free mode...playing RDR2.

 

Im a little annoyed to be honest...and I agree there should be a good balance of working to get something rare...and just giving it away. But this goes a little past that mark. If they put the tractor at 750 thats probably still too much but at least if I got to 500 I would know if it was worth pushing for.

 

In my eyes it lets them make a subpar DLC last much longer than it should ever have...as others have said these are glorified adversary modes...and I dont play GTA for the adversary modes. I actually like playing freemode and doing missions. This takes away from that.

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CaliMeatWagon
1 hour ago, capton_cutclass said:

So basically they realistically only expect you to go for the 500 mark...and anyone crazy enough to do it and still crazy enough to go 500 more and get the tractor wins the game or loses? I dont know which...

 

I dont know. I'd like to get these vehicles...I just dont want to commit to grinding on this...when i could be playing free mode...playing RDR2.

 

Im a little annoyed to be honest...and I agree there should be a good balance of working to get something rare...and just giving it away. But this goes a little past that mark. If they put the tractor at 750 thats probably still too much but at least if I got to 500 I would know if it was worth pushing for.

 

In my eyes it lets them make a subpar DLC last much longer than it should ever have...as others have said these are glorified adversary modes...and I dont play GTA for the adversary modes. I actually like playing freemode and doing missions. This takes away from that.

 

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Mirror Park Resident
2 hours ago, thepiebaker said:

I have a hard time believing there are 1000 unlockable discounts, especially with some unlocking multiples. Do we know at what level the discounts are all unlocked at?

The amount of trade prices to unlock is 426, according to @WildBrick142. Some of them include several items.

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YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE

Does the Miniguns on the Deathbike have a higher ROF than the Machine Guns from the other Arena Contenders?

 

Because it seems so, but I don't really know.

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Thehunteroftruth

How is the AP reward calculated? I heard max is 100 AP per round but do you need more people in the match for that?

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kenmy13999
8 minutes ago, Thehunteroftruth said:

How is the AP reward calculated? I heard max is 100 AP per round but do you need more people in the match for that?

Good question, I've gotten as much as 140 I think it was. Doesn't say that much on the scoreboard at the end but the screen before that

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doomsday_device

so how the f*ck do i unlock the trade prices for the arena vehicles. i played for hours and still no trade price for anything. i get that its random but shouldnt it unlock atleast something? im level 15 or something

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Lonely-Martin
1 hour ago, doomsday_device said:

so how the f*ck do i unlock the trade prices for the arena vehicles. i played for hours and still no trade price for anything. i get that its random but shouldnt it unlock atleast something? im level 15 or something

It's just a lottery, gotta keep plugging away. :)

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Viewbob

ok so i just finished a long and boring carnage and i finished 1st place with 3 bikes left in the arena, it then said i finished 13th place but i was on the number 1 pillar at the end

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capton_cutclass

On the spreadsheet next to the skill level it says wins? What does that mean? I have 16 wins but Im only level 2...the thing is I coulda sworn I got a notification a few days after the DLC came out saying I ranked up to skill level 2...but nothing changed...maybe mine is glitched? Im so confused.

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GamingKernDog
21 minutes ago, capton_cutclass said:

On the spreadsheet next to the skill level it says wins? What does that mean? I have 16 wins but Im only level 2...the thing is I coulda sworn I got a notification a few days after the DLC came out saying I ranked up to skill level 2...but nothing changed...maybe mine is glitched? Im so confused.

It goes down if you lose as well.

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MrCheekyface

What’s the best front weapon attachment for a custom Sasquatch in Here Comes the Monsters?

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CaliMeatWagon
8 hours ago, capton_cutclass said:

On the spreadsheet next to the skill level it says wins? What does that mean? I have 16 wins but Im only level 2...the thing is I coulda sworn I got a notification a few days after the DLC came out saying I ranked up to skill level 2...but nothing changed...maybe mine is glitched? Im so confused.

They are for Wins in a row, let me fix that.

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White Shark
On 12/15/2018 at 9:57 AM, Black-Dragon96 said:

Oh, I'm fine with unlocking stuff by playing, I just don't like the random unlock system they are using.

Instead of unlocking stuff I care about, I have to go through tons of sh*t that I could not give any less of a f*ck about. Discounts for vehicles I do not own and never will (brutus), discounts for outfits I would never wear (alien bodysuit), and borderline useless pegasus vehicles that appear to be designed by a toddler (have a look at that ugly taxi).

You know what kind of unlocksystem I like? Systems where I aquire skillpoints or a currency that allows me to unlock what I like and what fits my style.

Whats even more stupid is their "arena skill" system (the one where you unlock the blista). How does it reflect YOUR skill if you win or loose in a team match? Imagine this: You take out 99% of the enemy team on your own while your teammates die within seconds. You get f*cked up by the last enemy player because you are heavily damaged from taking one the rest of the enemys and the enemy team wins. Your arena skill will go down despite you actually being the best player of the match.

Whats even more offensive is that, if their system f*cks up (disconnect, etc.), it will count as a loss for you even though you have no controll about it.

 

AP should be a arena based currency that you can only aquire by playing in the arena and that allows you to unlock the stuff based on what you wnat to unlock while the "arena skill" should be increased or decreased based on your personal performance in matched not on the wins and losses your team aquires.

Yes to all this!! Especially how AP is acquired. I worked my arse off in a flag match, and collected all the flags whilst my team was either AFK, or just pissing around. We lost despite me collecting more flags as a lone player than anyone else. You should get bonus AP points for every flag/objective you get or every kill you get, on top of the AP points you get for winning the match. It would force you to actively take part in the game. The system at the moment is completely unfair.

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White Shark
13 hours ago, doomsday_device said:

so how the f*ck do i unlock the trade prices for the arena vehicles. i played for hours and still no trade price for anything. i get that its random but shouldnt it unlock atleast something? im level 15 or something

You would have already unlocked things like trade prices for vehicle mods and clothing items, just not the trade prices for the vehicles themselves, hence why it seems you've unlocked nothing yet.

 

Also, has everyone noticed that you have to individually unlock trade prices for the different types of the same vehicle, like Apocalypse, Future Shock and Nightmare?? R* really went overboard with this RNG unlocking grind this time.

 

What's even worst is that you still have to pay large sums of money when you do unlock trade prices. In my opinion, the discounts should have been rock bottom prices to make them feel worthwhile. People will just grow inpatient, buy the stuff they want at full price anyway and eventually ditch AW altogether.  

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Taterman
22 minutes ago, White Shark said:

You would have already unlocked things like trade prices for vehicle and clothing items, just not the trade prices for vehicles, hence why it seems you've unlocked nothing yet.

 

Also, has everyone noticed that you have to individually unlock trade prices for the different types of the same vehicle, like Apocalypse, Future Shock and Nightmare?? R* really went overboard with this RNG unlocking grind this time.

 

What's even worst is that you still have to pay large sums of money when you do unlock trade prices. In my opinion, the discounts should have been rock bottom prices to make them feel worthwhile. People will just grow inpatient, buy the stuff they want at full price anyway and eventually ditch AW altogether.  

 

Huh?

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White Shark
7 minutes ago, Taterman said:

 

Huh?

Lol sorry, vehicle mods* and clothing.

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Rabid Vulpix

Is anyone aware if that Clifford emblem that's now available for the Barrage in the Arena Mod Shop, glow in the dark/light up?

Or is it just a standard design emblem?

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Viewbob

the new weapons are from the republican space rangers 

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YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE
8 hours ago, viewbob said:

the new weapons are from the republican space rangers 

Yep!

 

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Andromeda-J

@ForeverpastCliffford logo on barrage does glow in dark

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Rabid Vulpix
1 hour ago, A.C.M. said:

@ForeverpastCliffford logo on barrage does glow in dark

Thank you for the clarification. 

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Rabid Vulpix

I hate to ask another question (as I usually enjoy answering instead), however does anyone know what color fire the Nightmare Cerberus has for it's flamethrowers?

I know the Apocalypse version has standard color fire & as for the Future Shock version it has green flames.

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Andromeda-J
15 minutes ago, Foreverpast said:

I hate to ask another question (as I usually enjoy answering instead), however does anyone know what color fire the Nightmare Cerberus has for it's flamethrowers?

I know the Apocalypse version has standard color fire & as for the Future Shock version it has green flames.

kinda normal looking flames, not different at all, nightmare and apocalypse both yellowish orange

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Rabid Vulpix
1 minute ago, A.C.M. said:

kinda normal looking flames, maybe little more bright orange

 

Thanks again, on fire with the answers like half of Los Santos burning down right now.

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JoeBoneless

Anyone know for certain how much AP is required total to hit level 1000?

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idonknowhow
11 minutes ago, JoeBoneless said:

Anyone know for certain how much AP is required total to hit level 1000?

You don't have a clue and want your tractor?

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