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Northern Monkey

Possible lead re: Missing Princess

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Northern Monkey

Hi, first post here so go easy on me, and apologies if this has been mentioned previously(though I have been following threads here and on reddit and can't seem to find any mention of it). Anyways on to my odd encounter:

 

I was in the Van Horn saloon having a drink at the bar when a stranger started talking to me, he mentioned the missing princess and how loads of folk had been asking around after her recently, and something about the only princesses around here can be hired by the hour, he then walked off and I couldn't initiate any further dialogue with him.

 

 Intrigued and with nothing better to do, I followed him out the back of the saloon and this is where he starts acting odd (odd that is for a random npc) heading North down the back alley behind the saloon he then headed towards the stables but not on the road, from there he headed to the riverside still heading north before cutting on to the train tracks which he left just south of Annesburg and headed cross country around the southern edge of the town heading northwest.

 

He crossed the Kamassa river just North of Beaver Hollow in a section of river that isn't a clear ford, still off roading he headed towards O'Creaghs Run and right past the door of Veterans cabin before heading NW up the valley of the legendary bear and then into the large railroad tunnel still heading west, unfortunately about half way through the tunnel a train came up behind us and took him out, upon searching him I found nothing unusual( a few cents and a gold watch). By the time he died he had been walking from around midnight to 4-5pm the next day, although he stopped occasionally to scratch his head as though puzzled or looking for something(he may have just been wiping his brow - which I have seen many an npc do)

 

So my questions are has anyone encountered this npc, if so does he lead anywhere, and has anyone seen other npc's acting like this, I personally haven't seen that many npc's on foot outside of a town and then only on roads or campsites.

 

Apologies for the wall of text, this just happened and I wanted to get the details quickly in case its of use.

 

 

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Cutter De Blanc

I encountered the man, but didn't follow him, as I was getting drunk at the time. Figured he was another one of them people who strikes up a conversation when you go to get a drink.  Like the guy in Saint Denis who assumes you're someone's driver

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Eram

Princess's sh*ts aside, that's (yet) another awesome gamestory dude and certainly well detailed and pinpointed by you.

Thks for sharing it and, imho, kinda debunking the need to follow that dude.... 

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Deadman2112

@Northern Monkey

 

Hmmm interesting

Nice observation. 

I followed him but no further then the river side

 

Maybe tomorrow I'll load up an older save and see if I get the same results.

Edited by Deadman2112

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King Vercetti

That's really intriguing. I hadn't come across this guy at all, but I'll go back and see if I can run into him next time I'm in the area. I don't know if it's significant or not, but what chapter were you in when you found him?

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simpjkee

I haven't seen the guy, but her missing poster is on the front of the saloon in Van Horn. You can take it down and keep it.

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Northern Monkey
50 minutes ago, King Vercetti said:

That's really intriguing. I hadn't come across this guy at all, but I'll go back and see if I can run into him next time I'm in the area. I don't know if it's significant or not, but what chapter were you in when you found him?

 

This was on my second playthrough, Chapter 3

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Jabalous

That's a long hike, more likely for no reason! 

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Ring Dang Do

I followed him for a bit last night and tried to stay as hidden as possible. He did the same route you mentioned at first but then he turned around near the abandoned railway station and started heading back towards Van horn. He started to head towards the fence and my heart was thumping ha but he only made it as far as the post office then walked through there and then headed back out of van horn. 

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Display Name

This mystery has been solved. Look at this picture. Sadly, there's no satisfying conclusion to this mystery, but it is what it is. Keep in mind that none of the protagonists actually give a damn about that missing princess. When they see the poster they say nothing, when they listen to the campfire men who tells you about her they say nothing no matter if you choose "respond positively" or "respond negatively". They don't even care about that toy box! Clearly its meant to be this way.

 

ICr42SF.jpg

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Ring Dang Do
29 minutes ago, Display Name said:

This mystery has been solved. Look at this picture. Sadly, there's no satisfying conclusion to this mystery, but it is what it is. Keep in mind that none of the protagonists actually give a damn about that missing princess. When they see the poster they say nothing, when they listen to the campfire men who tells you about her they say nothing no matter if you choose "respond positively" or "respond negatively". They don't even care about that toy box! Clearly its meant to be this way.

 

ICr42SF.jpg

You have no proof that it is her. What facts are you basing this on?

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Display Name
1 minute ago, Ring Dang Do said:

You have no proof that it is her. What facts are you basing this on?

Her choker and hair are the same, face structure is similar and she has a birthmark on her left cheek.

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Ring Dang Do
3 minutes ago, Display Name said:

Her choker and hair are the same, face structure is similar and she has a birthmark on her left cheek.

So you are telling me a girl in her 20s can still wear the same choker she wore when she was 5? Where is the birthmark on her hand?

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Display Name
1 minute ago, Ring Dang Do said:

So you are telling me a girl in her 20s can still wear the same choker she wore when she was 5? Where is the birthmark on her hand?

Her choker is very distinguishable on that poster, so whoever was modelling her probably thought that this would be a good clue. Her hand textures are super muddy and low resolution so its impossible to see.

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Ring Dang Do
Just now, Display Name said:

Her choker is very distinguishable on that poster, so whoever was modelling her probably thought that this would be a good clue. Her hand textures are super muddy and low resolution so its impossible to see.

There is countless woman in the game wearing chokers. If you look at the poster it looks like she has some sort of pearl necklace on as well, where had that gone then?

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Display Name
1 minute ago, Ring Dang Do said:

There is countless woman in the game wearing chokers. If you look at the poster it looks like she has some sort of pearl necklace on as well, where had that gone then?

Her pearl necklace is gone, but she has the same locket. Maybe pearl necklace was expensive and whoever kidnapped her sold it?

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Northern Monkey

Whilst their is no denying that they share some similarities, I don't think this is the missing princess myself. one argument against being that the photo from the missing poster is unlikely to show her as she appeared on the day she went missing, therefore the choker and hairstyle similarities would be irrelevant, secondly, why when she is clearly not restrained and hangs around next to a poster of herself, has she not simply handed herself in, or one of the locals not noticed the similarities and handed her in for the reward?

 

I'm leaning towards her being a red herring, I personally don't think the princess will be found alive, or these apparent clues are remnants of pulled content, still its fun looking

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SAS_Intruder

Actually that girl on the photo does look very similar to girl in the saloon.  It is not just the choker but birthmark on left cheek and same hairstyle are so far best proofs we have at all. 

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FUZZYBUNNY29

my first guess:

okay this is a long stretch but recently i have played the game and i found the gang brothers near black water killing people and when you do the mission, you first  pick up the first poster in black water at the  sheriffs station and you go hunting for him once you do that  he tells you that they didn't mean to kill the little girl!!???? this is huge!!!!! someone please tell me that im on to something here? ALSO!!!  if you go to black water to the sheriffs office right across the street is a fairy landing now this fairy landing says on the poster near the wall facing the road it says departures are made daily and at only black water! so i think that the brother killed the little girl when they found her with the weird blonde haired people in the forest? the real truth now is.....where is the body?????? O.o 

 

my second guess:

okay so in the game not sure if its in chapter 2 or 3? there is a mission  about going into a cave and getting a girl out of a cage surrounded by a guy that come after you with a huge knife and will kill you in one swing -_-  once you find the girl and take her back you end up in the coal town just above van horn????   is this a coincidence???? i think not!!!!  i went back to try to find her but she wasn't there i think that this also could be her? im not sure but someone on this forum will go hunting so please YouTube this! i want results!!!!!! i cant do this myself because i dont have a lot of time during the day :( so someone please YouTube this so i can watch it later ^_^

 

as of right now i have no leads but im sure this community will figure out the rest HAPPY HUNTING!

 

 

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a z

I love looking at the pieces to this quest. I wish Rockstar would hook them back up in some DLC. It's obviously just a quest they developed then unhooked at the end of production for either scheduling or quality reasons.  There's no real deeper published official Rockstar thing they're trying to do here.

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Deadman2112
Posted (edited)

@FUZZYBUNNY29

 

I remember the girl in the cage that gets rescued from the hill folk. I also remember taking a good look at her face and I'm pretty sure, it's not her.

 

Side note...

I will add that I went and had a good look at the woman in Van Horn and I'm not convinced she is the princess.

 

I'm not saying I know this definitely, but...

 

The princess would be 20 and that woman looks a lot older and even appears to have wrinkles. Also the birth mark on the woman In Van Horn looks more like make up to me. 

 

In an effort to get a better look at her I shot her, then carried her body out of town and had a real good look at her face in the bright sunlight and that woman is much older than 20.

 

Then you meet several NPC's across the map who are also looking for her, and one of them talks to you about her in that very bar. Not sure about the rest of you but, she was in the bar at the time he was talking to me about it but yet he didn't recognize her while she was only 5 feet from him?

 

Sorry but that just doesn't make sense if the woman in Van Horn were really her.

 

Basically what I'm getting at is the guy was only 5 feet from the very person he's in search of, yet I (the player) can have 2 bandannas, a mask, a heavy coat, and ride a stolen horse, then rob someone and they can still Identify me at a glance?

lol that's funny.

 

Also consider the following...

 

During Cleopatra's reign there are historical stories about prostitutes that would dress up like her as a fantasy kink for the men they were trying to attract. Hell, from what I hear you can now go to Vegas and get this very service and have a night with a fake Marilyn Monroe if that's what your into.

 

Based on all of that...

I think the women in Van Horn is just a prostitute dressed up like the princess offering a fantasy for men who come looking for her.

 

 

Edited by Deadman2112

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JupeShot92
On 12/12/2018 at 9:58 PM, Display Name said:

This mystery has been solved. Look at this picture. Sadly, there's no satisfying conclusion to this mystery, but it is what it is. Keep in mind that none of the protagonists actually give a damn about that missing princess. When they see the poster they say nothing, when they listen to the campfire men who tells you about her they say nothing no matter if you choose "respond positively" or "respond negatively". They don't even care about that toy box! Clearly its meant to be this way.

 

ICr42SF.jpg

I think this is definitely her. She's the only character in the game that has that exact hairstyle and all the evidence points to her being in Van Horn. People have been turning the game upside-down looking for her since launch and they've found nothing. Some people think she looks too old to be her but thats just because the pedestrian character models look really rough in this game. Nobody wants to believe it's her because they want there to be a secret quest and maybe a reward at the end but in reality Rockstar didn't put as much effort in to this mystery as people think they did. I think it's just supposed to be a little easter egg to add some flavor to Van horn since nothing really important or interesting happens there. I hope I'm wrong though.

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Lance_Vance89
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On 3/31/2019 at 7:29 AM, JupeShot92 said:

I hope I'm wrong though.

Your definitely not wrong. If you're wrong I will upload a video where I eat my shoes.

Edited by Lance_Vance89

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O.Z
On 3/28/2019 at 8:12 PM, a z said:

I love looking at the pieces to this quest. I wish Rockstar would hook them back up in some DLC. It's obviously just a quest they developed then unhooked at the end of production for either scheduling or quality reasons.  There's no real deeper published official Rockstar thing they're trying to do here.

Rockstar and DLC shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence 

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Deadman2112
Posted (edited)

@JupeShot92

I get what your saying but the age is so off it's not even funny. 

 

Mary Beth is about the right age and they didn't make that characters model look old.

 

Then, there's no birth mark on her hand and the mark on her face looks like make-up or dirt over wrinkles. I have a video of a close up of both her face and hands. I can tell you there is absolutely nothing on her hands.

 

The wanted poster says bring her to any sheriff's office. I've kidnapped her several times now and as soon as you walk in the door, you get a wanted level, if you don't get one before you ever make it inside.

 

Not being combative, just curious...

How do you explain the hands, Mary Beth's model looking like a person in their early 20's, and the fact that you gain a wanted level from turning in that specific NPC if this assumption is correct?

 

 

 

In the event it is her, (although I'm highly doubtful at this point) there still should be a way to resolve or concluded it.

 

Just thinking out loud here but I've noticed that there is a dead coyote in this place at one point in the game. When you see it, there is a dog barking at several vultures by the dead coyote.

 

Could this be a hint to something?

 

I only ask because of the imagery presented at the end of the game and how it directly corresponds to your horror level

 

The idea that that NPC is the missing princess, don't hold water IMO.

 

 

Edited by Deadman2112

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Deadman2112
Posted (edited)

Here you go. This is for anyone interested in this mystery and especially the folks that think this NPC is the missing princess.

 

 

Just my opinion but...

If this NPC is in-fact the missing princess, then R* massively dropped the ball on this one, and the person who modeled this NPC blew it.

 

And before anyone says...

"You simply can't see the marks on her hand."

Then I urge you to take a close look at Mary Beth's hand because there are clearly birthmarks on her right hand, but she has far to many freckles to see if there is a birthmark on her left cheek, but she is definitely the right age. Arthur even mentions that she is about 20 during a camp conversation.

 

I'm not saying it's Mary Beth either, (mostly because of her hair and the marks are on both hands) but she is definitely a far better fit than that old NPC.

 

 

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