Let's talk horses

[FuturePastNow]

Dear Rockstar, sell me a Clydesdale. I want a horse that blots out the sun.

[Krommer]

On 12/28/2020 at 3:08 AM, zPhoenix said:

The initial horse you get after the nag is usable but has horrid speed and stamina.   I discarded it as soon as I could.

 

The Ultimate Edition on Xbox One at least, which gave you a "special" horse in online as well as single player, was MORE than worth it.

You could really play with not having to purchase another horse, so I think I crapped out and mine seemed kind of wimpy around wolves/whatever.

 

The online thoroughbred horse you get for free, was more than worth it. When I first was playing Online, I was wondering where it was

then found out I had to go to the stable to get it; think you also had to get that first initial horse first.

 

It was similar with Arthur in single player, where I'm still using that free horse from the ultimate with him (at around 40 percent finished,

since that was about the time I got into Online  )  The great thing, in both single and online, is that if it dies/disappears you can just

go back to the stable and get another one for free.

 

I've still noticed no large difference in temperament among different horse breeds; people swear the turkoman/breton whatever is braver,

but the ones I got were just as bad (4 cores, well fed/brushed etc.) I've also really only noticed two temperaments (4 cores, etc. again), they are

either middle of the road brave or pretty much max cowardly (but other people will swear that it makes no difference and depends on how the horse

is treated.) I even had two of the same level/breed, with everything else equal, which were very different (two Klads, one insanely cowardly and one

middle of the road like nearly everything.)

 

So I settle on one that seems generally OK, with the possiblity of max stamina and health (like the Gypsy Cob piebald I'm using.)

Then I mash that left thumb stick, for "calm", on the Xbox one when wolves/whatever are on our behind  

That seems to work well, except for the Legendary ones that seem to auto-buck you no matter what, such as the

boars when they are about to charge.

 

Edited January 8, 2021 by Krommer

[zPhoenix]

9 hours ago, Krommer said:

 

The Ultimate Edition on Xbox One at least, which gave you a "special" horse in online as well as single player, was MORE than worth it.

You could really play with not having to purchase another horse, so I think I crapped out and mine seemed kind of wimpy around wolves/whatever.

 

The online thoroughbred horse you get for free, was more than worth it. When I first was playing Online, I was wondering where it was

then found out I had to go to the stable to get it; think you also had to get that first initial horse first.

 

It was similar with Arthur in single player, where I'm still using that free horse from the ultimate with him (at around 40 percent finished,

since that was about the time I got into Online  )  The great thing, in both single and online, is that if it dies/disappears you can just

go back to the stable and get another one for free.

 

I've still noticed no large difference in temperament among different horse breeds; people swear the turkoman/breton whatever is braver,

but the ones I got were just as bad (4 cores, well fed/brushed etc.) I've also really only noticed two temperaments (4 cores, etc. again), they are

either middle of the road brave or pretty much max cowardly (but other people will swear that it makes no difference and depends on how the horse

is treated.) I even had two of the same level/breed, with everything else equal, which were very different (two Klads, one insanely cowardly and one

middle of the road like nearly everything.)

 

So I settle on one that seems generally OK, with the possiblity of max stamina and health (like the Gypsy Cob piebald I'm using.)

Then I mash that left thumb stick, for "calm", on the Xbox one when wolves/whatever are on our behind  

That seems to work well, except for the Legendary ones that seem to auto-buck you no matter what, such as the

boars when they are about to charge.

 

I noticed a huge improvement from the early horse to the Red Arabian early on, then another huge improvement when I bought the Turkoman.   Then I bought the top Moonshine horse and it was similar to the Turkoman but "feels" a tiny bit better although I cannot explain why.  Both the Turkoman and Moonshine horse feel as if they have infinite stamina (they do not, but for practical purposes).

[kcole4001]

Using the Naco saddle with hooded stirrups on any top tier horse will enable you to ride pretty much indefinitely, the other matters are speed and handling, speed only really matters if you race, and handling basically effects how quick they are to do an emergency turn, so not terribly important if you pay close attention to your route and plan your turns.

For normal freeroam use just use whatever you like the looks of most unless you get lucky and find a brave mount.

 

Remember to set your preferences in the stable section of player menu for which horse you use for races, freeroam events, etc.

[darkmaster234]

On 12/28/2020 at 9:57 AM, Archangelsky said:

For those who complain about the lack of stalls for horses (which I do as well, I need more) I assume it is just another way of Rockstar to force us to use RDO dollars.

Especially now when the new coats are being released I imagine many just "disregard" older horses and purchase new ones.

Of course, a sh*tty and cheap way, sure. I created an alt account with the sole purpose of counter this asholery and use new outfits, weapon combos etc. i am done of waiting for their asses.

Edited January 8, 2021 by darkmaster234

[StyxTx]

14 minutes ago, darkmaster234 said:

Of course, a sh*tty and cheap way, sure. I created an alt account with the sole purpose of counter this asholery and use new outfits, weapon combos etc. i am done of waiting for their asses.

But....but....but....I thought we all loved those fine people at R*!

[zPhoenix]

On 12/31/2020 at 2:09 AM, Direwrath said:

So I gave my Kladdy boy a new haircut, something awesome and totally 80's hair metal. Nothing new, but as I was showing my daughter the little 'staches we get with the pass I accidentally claimed it and now for the life of me I don't know how to remove it? Am I just being an airhead? I tried to click it again to remove it?

Or is my glam metal pretty boy going to be stuck looking like an old man now? 

 

Do I ride him into the Barber in town?

 

What do I do?

 

 

 

For some reason he looks pleased with himself now though?

He reminds me of Ringo Starr in his early days.

[Direwrath]

On 1/8/2021 at 10:57 AM, zPhoenix said:

He reminds me of Ringo Starr in his early days.

Lol, now I kind of want to change his name to Ringo!

 

 

I turned my medicine hat paint mustang Reckless into a calico cat. Normally I stay away from these long thick manes, but this one looks good on that little mustang. 

 

 

And after I put this mane on her I realized that she now matches her saddle/tack setup quite well.

[Veleno]

CANT WAIT for the black Turkoman.

 

GIVE NOW !

[Direwrath]

My new Turkoman has learned some new tricks apparently!

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Veleno]

 

 

Black Turkoman

 

Fav Horse

 

Dream Coat

[darkmaster234]

4 hours ago, Veleno said:

 

 

Black Turkoman

 

Fav Horse

 

Dream Coat

The turkoman is one of those horses that looks better with short mane,believe me. You should try.

[Megadeus]

(PS) Soooo it looks like the new free horse voucher works on the gray Turkoman......

 

Edited February 17, 2021 by Megadeus

[berzelmayr]

I got myself the buckskin mustang for free.

 

[fuzzyballs01]

people like to pretend speed and acceleration doesn't matter all that much "oh yeah, you can run to the other side of the map and only be 2 minutes slower"

explain how I won every race I ever did using the Norfolk Roadster, with upgrades that one's at 10 speed and 9 acceleration

explain how I outrun my friends every time

 

people say it doesn't matter as an excuse to not upgrade since they like their horse

[Direwrath]

47 minutes ago, fuzzyballs01 said:

people like to pretend speed and acceleration doesn't matter all that much "oh yeah, you can run to the other side of the map and only be 2 minutes slower"

explain how I won every race I ever did using the Norfolk Roadster, with upgrades that one's at 10 speed and 9 acceleration

explain how I outrun my friends every time

 

people say it doesn't matter as an excuse to not upgrade since they like their horse

There is a difference, but in your typical ride there is really no need for one horse to be faster than the other.

The Norfolk Roadster is one of the better horses for racing, those were the ones I used when I would race. They are quick to start, keep their fast pace, and can go the distance far longer than the others.

My favorite breed is the Turkoman but after a bit of heavy running, even with a high stamina and the Nago saddle equipped, every one of them tends to slow their pace a little. But they are fast enough to leave other players in the dust. Still none of my Turks take off as fast as my Roadster did at the start.

Now the Fox Trotter on the other hand is slow on the start, takes a little bit longer to gather speed, but when they do they can keep their fast pace for some time without losing endurance.

 

Each of the breeds has their ability, just as real horses do, and although the saddles and stirrups make some difference in their stats I don't think it changes their basic set up. 

[StyxTx]

16 hours ago, fuzzyballs01 said:

people like to pretend speed and acceleration doesn't matter all that much "oh yeah, you can run to the other side of the map and only be 2 minutes slower"

explain how I won every race I ever did using the Norfolk Roadster, with upgrades that one's at 10 speed and 9 acceleration

explain how I outrun my friends every time

 

people say it doesn't matter as an excuse to not upgrade since they like their horse

They make a difference in those races. However, I've owned every breed of horse in the past 3 years and none of them could outrun anyone in my posse in free roam. Maybe your friends don't control their horses as well as you. The Arabian I have now can keep pace with my friend's 9 horses, all of them different breeds, but can not outrun any of them.

Edited February 18, 2021 by StyxTx

[Direwrath]

With the discount on the Trotters I decided to go ahead and spend the gold for the black and white paint one.

I named him Rorschach.

 

 

He's pretty good so far, a little more skittish than my other Trotter, Goblin, but we haven't fully bonded yet. 

And also that bridle doesn't fit his nose....  

[RyuNova]

Imagine not towering over everyone else on their pathetically small horses.

 

This post was made by the Shire horse gang

[yeezy203]

On 2/21/2021 at 5:21 AM, RyuNova said:

Imagine not towering over everyone else on their pathetically small horses.

 

This post was made by the Shire horse gang

 

Comes down to personal preference. I love my mustang. Not the biggest horses but great combination of speed and bravery. I know people say it's RNG but I'm fairly convinced mustangs are at least top 3 bravest breeds in the game.

[RyuNova]

33 minutes ago, yeezy203 said:

Comes down to personal preference.

 

It's a joke. The Slow and Steady method makes horse bravery, RNG or not, pointless.

[*Lola]

7 hours ago, RyuNova said:

 

It's a joke. The Slow and Steady method makes horse bravery, RNG or not, pointless.

What's RNG?

[RyuNova]

52 minutes ago, *Lola said:

What's RNG?

 

"Random Number Generator" or "Random Number Game", whichever you like.

 

Stuff that's randomly generated in the background like Loot in MMORPG's etc. People seem to think that a Horses "Bravery" is a hidden stat that's randomly generated when you buy them.

Edited February 23, 2021 by RyuNova

[KatzeFive]

1 hour ago, RyuNova said:

 

"Random Number Generator" or "Random Number Game", whichever you like.

 

Stuff that's randomly generated in the background like Loot in MMORPG's etc. People seem to think that a Horses "Bravery" is a hidden stat that's randomly generated when you buy them.

 

I've heard/read this before - are there any proof of that ? Has the developer actually said something about hidden stats ?

 

If this bravery should be true, then I'm out of luck .. Got four horses: Buckskin Mustang I've called "Yellow mist" - Bay frame overo Criollo called "Spot On Girl" - Turkoman Chestnut called "Chip" and finally a Blue Roan Missouri Fox Trotter called "Two Tone" .. All names should be perceived as me trying to be a bit funny, when I've decided what to call them, and has something to do with their color scheme ..

 

As one of the boys said, when he dicided to call his Red Chestnut Arabien for "Brown horse"; It's just a game, they are not real horses, and afterwards he called his Dapple Grey Missouri Fox Trotter for "White horse" ..

 

All my four horses are terrified of snakes - they really don't like bears, and only the Turkoman Chestnut are somewhat indifferent when it comes to wolves .. They all buck me off if a cougar or panther sees us, instead of hitting the throttle and get away from these neurotic cats ..

[Direwrath]

3 hours ago, KatzeFive said:

 

I've heard/read this before - are there any proof of that ? Has the developer actually said something about hidden stats ?

 

If this bravery should be true, then I'm out of luck .. Got four horses: Buckskin Mustang I've called "Yellow mist" - Bay frame overo Criollo called "Spot On Girl" - Turkoman Chestnut called "Chip" and finally a Blue Roan Missouri Fox Trotter called "Two Tone" .. All names should be perceived as me trying to be a bit funny, when I've decided what to call them, and has something to do with their color scheme ..

 

As one of the boys said, when he dicided to call his Red Chestnut Arabien for "Brown horse"; It's just a game, they are not real horses, and afterwards he called his Dapple Grey Missouri Fox Trotter for "White horse" ..

 

All my four horses are terrified of snakes - they really don't like bears, and only the Turkoman Chestnut are somewhat indifferent when it comes to wolves .. They all buck me off if a cougar or panther sees us, instead of hitting the throttle and get away from these neurotic cats ..

I have most of my horses to the point where they will willingly deal with apex predators, but each horse reacts to their fear in their own way. 

My brindle Trotter and my Bay Andalusian are not afraid to have little space between them and the chasing cougars, but all three of my Turkoman are better adjusted when they have more distance to run. The one horse I owned that was skittish was the silver dapple grey Breton, he would easily drop me from the saddle to save himself.

 

I also lead the horses differently when we are being chased, with the Trotter and Andalusian I tighten the reins so to speak and retain complete control of where they go, while my other horses I will release them to move how they please. I'll also mash the button to calm them and turn them back when I need to readjust my aim. The one thing I've learned is that it is a good idea to keep the horse turned somewhat toward the animal chasing them, it seems to pause the script that causes the horse to launch you from the saddle as long as you keep them moving while doing so.

 

In the video below notice how my Trotter Goblin, keeps trying to pull her head left and away from the cougar, and how I keep turning her back the other way.

This is how she typically responds to a cougar or a bear.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Krommer]

57 minutes ago, Direwrath said:

I'll also mash the button to calm them and turn them back when I need to readjust my aim. The one thing I've learned is that it is a good idea to keep the horse turned somewhat toward the animal chasing them, it seems to pause the script that causes the horse to launch you from the saddle as long as you keep them moving while doing so.

 

Yeah, mashing the heck out of the button is what I do on my Gypsy Cob (which I like for the full stats, since otherwise horses seem kind of the same.) 

Another thing I've started doing is not only turning towards the animal, but actually running into/through the pack of wolves on purpose; no idea why but

the horse seems less prone to throw than if they are on your tail.

[RyuNova]

6 hours ago, Direwrath said:

I have most of my horses to the point where they will willingly deal with apex predators, but each horse reacts to their fear in their own way. 

 

 

5 hours ago, Krommer said:

Yeah, mashing the heck out of the button is what I do on my Gypsy Cob

 

If you activate the "Slow and Steady" Dead Eye ability while in the saddle your horse cannot buck you or run away.

[StyxTx]

6 hours ago, Direwrath said:

I have most of my horses to the point where they will willingly deal with apex predators, but each horse reacts to their fear in their own way. 

My brindle Trotter and my Bay Andalusian are not afraid to have little space between them and the chasing cougars, but all three of my Turkoman are better adjusted when they have more distance to run. The one horse I owned that was skittish was the silver dapple grey Breton, he would easily drop me from the saddle to save himself.

 

I also lead the horses differently when we are being chased, with the Trotter and Andalusian I tighten the reins so to speak and retain complete control of where they go, while my other horses I will release them to move how they please. I'll also mash the button to calm them and turn them back when I need to readjust my aim. The one thing I've learned is that it is a good idea to keep the horse turned somewhat toward the animal chasing them, it seems to pause the script that causes the horse to launch you from the saddle as long as you keep them moving while doing so.

 

In the video below notice how my Trotter Goblin, keeps trying to pull her head left and away from the cougar, and how I keep turning her back the other way.

This is how she typically responds to a cougar or a bear.

 

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The worst thing you can do with any of the horses is allow the predator to get behind them. In the game and in real life, a horse will panic if it can't see the predator. However, in real life, and unlike the game, horses won't stop in that case. They'll take off like bats out of hell, just like the wild horses do when we approach.

[StyxTx]

I want a horse I can talk to and talks back, like Mr. Ed.

[*Lola]

2 hours ago, StyxTx said:

I want a horse I can talk to and talks back, like Mr. Ed.

If you get real close to it's backside, you may here it whisper softly to you.