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If GTA 5 had only the options to kill Michael or Trevor, which one would you choose?

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AirWolf359
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I chose ending C because I would rather kill Franklin than Michael or Trevor. I didn't know whether he would survive or not.

If the choice was between Michael and Trevor, I would do something sensible. Why did Michael betray Trevor in the first place? Because Trevor is a rabid dog who can not be controlled, is devoid of logic, kills people just for fun. Michael felt Trevor's insanity was going to get him and his family killed.

Why would Franklin kill Michael? Surely not because Devin Weston asked him, right? He would rather kill Devin Weston on the spot. (I just watched that cutscene again where Devin comes to his house and asks) I see why some players would kill Michael (for his hypocrisy), but I don't see why Franklin would. If there were no third way, he would have killed Trevor, because if he killed Michael, Trevor wouldn't be happy. If he killed Trevor, Michael would gladly help him do so. Killing Trevor rather than Michael really is the logical choice.

 

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Utopianthumbs

I'd choose to off Michael even though I really like him . I like how poetic that ending is, Franklin ends up pulling a Michael on Michael. The story begins with Michael making a deal with the FIB to betray his friends for government protection, and ends with Franklin making a deal with Devin to betray his mentor to escape the heat on him. The ending shows that Franklin has truly become Michael's student, he even quotes Michael in that ending. I like how the story comes full circle, also if you try to reason it out, Devin has a lot more influence than Steve, so he can pull some strings to smooth out things with the FIB whereas choosing another option could mean Merryweather at your door. Ending B feels like the more impactful ending overall imo.

 

 

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AirWolf359
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11 minutes ago, Utopianthumbs said:

I'd choose to off Michael even though I really like him . I like how poetic that ending is, Franklin ends up pulling a Michael on Michael. The story begins with Michael making a deal with the FIB to betray his friends for government protection, and ends with Franklin making a deal with Devin to betray his mentor to escape the heat on him. The ending shows that Franklin has truly become Michael's student, he even quotes Michael in that ending. I like how the story comes full circle

True that about things coming full circle, but personally I'm more into logic than poetry. Killing Michael still feels out of character for Franklin, more so than killing Trevor. Franklin still isn't happy to kill Trevor, but he is smart enough to do the sensible thing.

 

11 minutes ago, Utopianthumbs said:

also if you try to reason it out, Devin has a lot more influence than Steve, so he can pull some strings to smooth out things with the FIB whereas choosing another option could mean Merryweather at your door. Ending B feels like the more impactful ending overall imo.

I wouldn't be too concerned about Merryweather by the end of the story. They were in the red and about to get their domestic operations shut down, and we all know what happened to the last group that Devin sent to someone's house. Maybe the FIB would even put Franklin on Witness Protection Program too.

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Utopianthumbs
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27 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

True that about things coming full circle, but personally I'm more into logic than poetry. Killing Michael still feels out of character for Franklin, more so than killing Trevor. Franklin still isn't happy to kill Trevor, but he is smart enough to do the sensible thing.

Yeah but Franklin could also reason out that it was Michael who brought Franklin into this mess in the first place and besides, given his track record of betraying people, I wouldn't be surprised if Franklin decides that before Michael turns on him as well if some new problem crops up, he'd beat him to the punch. 

 

27 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

I wouldn't be too concerned about Merryweather by the end of the story. They were in the red and about to get their domestic operations shut down, and we all know what happened to the last group that Devin sent to someone's house. Maybe the FIB would even put Franklin on Witness Protection Program too.

Yeah this is a good point. Still think Devin could easily influence the FIB to lay off Franklin if he does his bidding. I get that Trevor is unpredictable  but if I were Franklin I'd still distrust Michael more given his track record. But I understand your reasons for choosing Trevor, just that personally I think it more understandable to go after Michael since he could stab you from behind ( the unseen enemy is more dangerous and all) and I think it makes for a better ending as well.

 

This is assuming ending C isn't available of course. Also it's great to have a discussion about V's story like this! Doesn't happen enough imo.

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etthell

Trev - I like him, except his "insanity attacks". I wish he would be more "stable". Mike sometimes was simple boring, but story with all three characters was just great. I wish they continue multi character gameplay in GTA6.

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Pedinhuh
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I'd try to kill both to be honest, eventually it took me long enough to realize but I actually sort of sympathize with Franklin.

 

Nah nah, but seriously now, I'd kill Trevor because he had it coming a long, even more than Michael, plus in general throughout the story you can see that Franklin is more sympathetic towards Michael than Franklin.

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Cjrememberthat

Trevor, wanna kill that snake so much but steve comes first

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billiejoearmstrong8

Michael because at the end of the day he's the least loyal of the three and still would've betrayed either of the other two in a second if it benefited him. Also I like Trevor and also Michael's death/Franklin killing him after he acted as a mentor for him has more emotional impact.

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Cjrememberthat

It'd be best if patricia killed T

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Yinepi

Michael.

I have no respect for slipper wearing mother f*ckers.

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cp1dell

@Jeansowaty Totally different situation. Darko betrayed Niko and all their friends, all for a thousand bucks.

 

Michael sold out Trevor and Brad so he could secure him and his family’s safety. Trevor while loyal, was and is a dangerous psychopath, and Brad wasn’t much better either. In fact, I don’t remember where, but there is dialogue from Trevor where he mentions Brad was thinking of killing Michael, just so he could be the one running things. Keep in mind he also never mentioned Lester. Only the two he really needed gone, both who were supposed to be killed.

 

You can’t really look at Michael's family during the story, or his actions during the story as reasoning about how BS the whole “he did it for his family” thing is. You need to understand that it wasn’t until after moving to Los Santos and settling in for a few years that things started to change. Michael talks to Franklin about this if you hangout with him, how his family changed when they moved.

 

Michael sold them out so he could walk away from that life, and protect his family. Hell, in the Fame or Shame cutscene when Trevor shows up, you can see Michael put himself between Trevor and Jimmy.

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Yinepi

Doing something for your family doesn't make said things justified.

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iiCriminnaaL 49
2 hours ago, Yinepi said:

Doing something for your family doesn't make said things justified.

Still doesn't make Michael a Dimitri Rascalov v2.0.

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Jeansowaty
2 hours ago, cp1dell said:

@Jeansowaty Totally different situation. Darko betrayed Niko and all their friends, all for a thousand bucks.

 

Michael sold out Trevor and Brad so he could secure him and his family’s safety. Trevor while loyal, was and is a dangerous psychopath, and Brad wasn’t much better either. In fact, I don’t remember where, but there is dialogue from Trevor where he mentions Brad was thinking of killing Michael, just so he could be the one running things. Keep in mind he also never mentioned Lester. Only the two he really needed gone, both who were supposed to be killed.

 

You can’t really look at Michael's family during the story, or his actions during the story as reasoning about how BS the whole “he did it for his family” thing is. You need to understand that it wasn’t until after moving to Los Santos and settling in for a few years that things started to change. Michael talks to Franklin about this if you hangout with him, how his family changed when they moved.

 

Michael sold them out so he could walk away from that life, and protect his family. Hell, in the Fame or Shame cutscene when Trevor shows up, you can see Michael put himself between Trevor and Jimmy.

 

35 minutes ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

Still doesn't make Michael a Dimitri Rascalov v2.0.

Of course it's a different situation though I still can't see why Michael didn't choose a different way out. I mean, Niko also wanted to get out of that life by the end of the game though he would not for example get Packie killed just because he's an unpredictable cocaine addict and a criminal while he doesn't want to be one anymore. I still stand by the point that Michael and Niko are completely different from each other and wouldn't get along at all. Just as much as I don't understand how people compare Michael to Max Payne. All they have in common is that they're both middle-aged and depressed, but the reasons for their frustration are completely different.

 

More on that matter, then why does everyone around keep saying that Michael is a traitor? If I remember right even Devin Weston tells that to Franklin. Hell, in Ending B Michael tries to convince Franklin to stop the whole chase and "roll on T" together. Even if you choose to spare him, he will still kill himself, just to make Franklin look like the evil one. He may not be a Rascalov v2.0 but he's something of a Derrick McReary v2.0. Both are trying to be as relatable to their friends/family as possible but both are middle-aged degenerates who ruined their psyche with their decisions and THEY are the ones who betrayed, not the other way around.

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billiejoearmstrong8
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11 hours ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

Still doesn't make Michael a Dimitri Rascalov v2.0.

I think he's somewhere in the middle. He isn't super villain level but he really is quite a snake and far from innocent. In both A and B endings he's more than happy to kill/suggest killing Trevor, and even during the Big Score (which is meant to be this awesome thing the three of them achieve together) he's telling Franklin and the crew that if they get caught they should pin it all on Trevor. Plus he might be a family man but he's also a violent thief and murderer himself, hardly any better than Trevor when it comes down to it. He's disloyal, a chump (I lost count of all the different ways he was played for a fool during the game) and a hypocrite. 

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TheSantader25
11 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I think he's somewhere in the middle. He isn't super villain level but he really is quite a snake and far from innocent. In both A and B endings he's more than happy to kill/suggest killing Trevor, and even during the Big Score (which is meant to be this awesome thing the three of them achieve together) he's telling Franklin and the crew that if they get caught they should pin it all on Trevor. Plus he might be a family man but he's also a violent thief and murderer himself, hardly any better than Trevor when it comes down to it. He's disloyal, a chump (I lost count of all the different ways he was played for a fool during the game) and a hypocrite. 

Putting myself in his position, I can see why he wants to betray Trevor. Trevor is unstable and insane and if I was a criminal I would want him out of my life. I would end up dead sooner or later with him around. It is a very snakey thing to do. But realistically speaking, I think it's what any sensible guy would consider doing. 

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Cjrememberthat

TheSantader25 well said brother

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AirWolf359
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On 5/27/2019 at 8:37 AM, Jeansowaty said:

More on that matter, then why does everyone around keep saying that Michael is a traitor? If I remember right even Devin Weston tells that to Franklin. Hell, in Ending B Michael tries to convince Franklin to stop the whole chase and "roll on T" together.

That is just the pot calling the kettle black. Devin only says that to get Franklin to kill Michael, don't forget how big of a snake Devin is. If Franklin lets things come full circle, he is probably the next to get killed, and I think he knows. At least killing Trevor will make everyone feel safer.

 

On 5/27/2019 at 8:37 AM, Jeansowaty said:

Even if you choose to spare him, he will still kill himself, just to make Franklin look like the evil one. He may not be a Rascalov v2.0 but he's something of a Derrick McReary v2.0. Both are trying to be as relatable to their friends/family as possible but both are middle-aged degenerates who ruined their psyche with their decisions and THEY are the ones who betrayed, not the other way around.

At this point, Michael realizes his family will be safe with him dead. (and he would prefer to die at Franklin's hands rather than Trevor's) Nobody is really interested in his family, it's only Michael they want and they used his family to get to him.

 

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Jeansowaty
53 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

That is just the pot calling the kettle black. Devin only says that to get Franklin to kill Michael, don't forget how big of a snake Devin is. If Franklin lets things come full circle, he is probably the next to get killed, and I think he knows. At least killing Trevor will make everyone feel safer.

 

At this point, Michael realizes his family will be safe with him dead. (and he would prefer to die at Franklin's hands rather than Trevor's) Nobody is really interested in his family, it's only Michael they want and they used his family to get to him.

 

Still, I think that this "honorous" way to go still makes him come across as a selfish douche. They might be safe but won't they need him anyway? Look at how angry Amanda is at Franklin.

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