The economy is not broken...!

[DreadedSilverback]

1 minute ago, Tha-Jamz said:

No not passive mode, but private sessions.

So i can make a private session and invite only the people i want to play with.

I understand that they already found a way around passive mode in GTAV online so i think that wont be a solution.

 

I keep saying and asking for it thru the feedback option, private sessions.

I mean private sessions are good for sure but if GTAO is anything to go by , much of the content may be unavailable though a distinction between pvp and pve servers would definitely be good as you said above 

[Tha-Jamz]

1 minute ago, DreadedSilverback said:

I mean private sessions are good for sure but if GTAO is anything to go by , much of the content may be unavailable though a distinction between pvp and pve servers would definitely be good as you said above 

I still dont get it why content is unavailable in private sessions in GTA online, why ?

And this wasnt the case in RDR1 online so why should it be now ?

 

But yes, PVE would be great !

Edited December 4, 2018 by Tha-Jamz

[DreadedSilverback]

1 minute ago, Tha-Jamz said:

I still dont get it why content is unavailable in private sessions in GTA online, why ?

And this wasnt the case in RDR1 online so why should it be now ?

Well I guess there worried about exploits , thats the only real reason I can think of and RDR1 just had unlocks , not economic balance to contend with 

[Spider-Vice]

Just stumbled upon the sh*tfest that happened in this thread earlier today, anyone else throwing sh*tty insults at one another is getting banned until the New Year.

[SAS_Intruder]

When one worm for fishing costs 50 cents (it says tin has 5 worms but it doesn't,  liars ) how we can talk about economy  at all? 5 worms have more value than gokd pocket watch. Think about it....

[Callahan44]

2 minutes ago, SAS_Intruder said:

When one worm for fishing costs 50 cents (it says tin has 5 worms but it doesn't,  liars ) how we can talk about economy  at all? 5 worms have more value than gokd pocket watch. Think about it....

Its a game,think about it. In gta you robbed hundreds of banks,own companies and bunkers and still cant afford the newest car. You think finding 1 platinum watch should solve all your food problem for the coming years in rd online?

[SAS_Intruder]

30 minutes ago, Callahan44 said:

Its a game,think about it. In gta you robbed hundreds of banks,own companies and bunkers and still cant afford the newest car. You think finding 1 platinum watch should solve all your food problem for the coming years in rd online?

GTA is everything but example of good economy  ( in video game) so I wouldn't use that as an excuse.  No, I don't expect to solve world hunger issues with one Gold watch but neither I expect it to be worth less than 5 worms. 

[Hatin Since 87]

16 hours ago, Qbert said:

The economy is what you make of it really to a certain extent. We as the consumer after all determine the economy and how many people play this online? Lots of demand and unending supply is like a wet dream for profit and video games are ripe for it so unless you aren't a very good business person you would do the same thing they are doing, could you imagine if trump ran the online part of this game? Like any economy though you don't have to buy if you don't want to but we all want to and or need to buy...look at gas sure we could all stop buying and ride bikes but c'mon....3.00$ a gallon 

Wtf does any of this have to do with trump? 

 

“I’m gonna inject my hatred of trump on a pumpkin pie recipe”

 

can we stick to the game? 

 

The economy is obviously broken, otherwise rockstar would have said the economy is fine and set the way it is for the future content they plan on adding. That isn’t the case. 

[Qbert]

Because trump is a business man far smarter than these people, and people think stuff is high now. Also people should get a sense of humor especially on this thread 

[Raavi]

3 minutes ago, Qbert said:

Because trump is a business man far smarter than these people

lol

 

Let's stick to the topic of the RDO economy, folks. If you want to discuss US politics / economics head over here.

[HockeyMike24]

Don't worry R* has a plan to fix the economy, they just need more of your money

[Qbert]

The economy is fine it's the people that want everything cheap. Gold right now is not that easy to get right, and most things cost gold or lots of gold right? Now if they either reduce the gold cost or make gold easier to get than it really already is (just play) then what happens? Everyone suddenly has everything meaning no motivation to play until more content comes out then the cycle repeats. This little high carrot gives them at least a few weeks to work on more content fixing content etc..plus it's a business

[Xiled]

28 minutes ago, Qbert said:

The economy is fine it's the people that want everything cheap. Gold right now is not that easy to get right, and most things cost gold or lots of gold right? Now if they either reduce the gold cost or make gold easier to get than it really already is (just play) then what happens? Everyone suddenly has everything meaning no motivation to play until more content comes out then the cycle repeats. This little high carrot gives them at least a few weeks to work on more content fixing content etc..plus it's a business

The current system the exact same thing will happen. Everyone suddenly has everything meaning no motivation to play until more content comes out then the cycle repeats.

[Lonely-Martin]

54 minutes ago, Qbert said:

The economy is fine it's the people that want everything cheap. Gold right now is not that easy to get right, and most things cost gold or lots of gold right? Now if they either reduce the gold cost or make gold easier to get than it really already is (just play) then what happens? Everyone suddenly has everything meaning no motivation to play until more content comes out then the cycle repeats. This little high carrot gives them at least a few weeks to work on more content fixing content etc..plus it's a business

Could the reason to play not just be for fun and entertainment though, social even?

 

I get it's business for R*/T2, but for us, many of us, it's just a videogame. And I'm more than looking forward to potentially just kicking back either alone or with friends both. (Ideally in PvE sessions, but others too if more choice comes).

 

And again, I get progression and rewarding game modes etc, but also I find them just as much fun as and when. I'll pick off belt bucks awards often just through natural play, unlocks too. And in the days buddies are busy (or with them mind), I'll pick off more. But like with GTA:O currently, I'm loaded with it all, have been all year as DDH served me well, and as I love to race, help randoms/noobs, and friends alike, the gameplay and conversations too really are where my gaming comes alive.

 

Variety and toys just add to it more.

[afriendlyreddot]

8 hours ago, SAS_Intruder said:

When one worm for fishing costs 50 cents (it says tin has 5 worms but it doesn't,  liars ) how we can talk about economy  at all? 5 worms have more value than gokd pocket watch. Think about it....

worms are bugged at the moment actually, if you buy them physically and not from the catalogue you get 5 for 50 cents.

[CaliMeatWagon]

"R* made enough money in the first 3 days of GTA V. RDR2 should of been free for everybody."

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[Pocket Fox]

3 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

"R* made enough money in the first 3 days of GTA V. RDR2 should of been free for everybody."

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Complete a mission. Earned enough to replenish the ammo used on said mission... and buy some oatcakes.

 

This isn't entitled 'it should be free' it's more a case of it should be adequately rewarding, not a grind. Currently it's a grind with very few gameplay loops.

 

You earn more in 10-15 mins of hunting than you would for 1-2 hours of playing missions or stranger quests. 

[Lonely-Martin]

11 minutes ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

"R* made enough money in the first 3 days of GTA V. RDR2 should of been free for everybody."

                                                                                                                  - Sadly, A Large Portion of the Community

Honestly dude, the can clean up like GTA, I want more games like this so I want them to earn well and get big numbers of gamers on board. Means more variety for me.

 

I just don't like being forced into conflict at almost every turn and feel we should just be able to pick our fun without being hampered by doing things that pay best to get something pretty trivial in the long term. If they do right/like GTA, I could be playing for half a decade or more. A gun now/this week ain't taking that away at all.

 

Just want a better balance. 0.01 of gold per race really is as low as it gets when things are locked to it and often multiple bars. It's really poor.

[SAS_Intruder]

1 hour ago, afriendlyreddot said:

worms are bugged at the moment actually, if you buy them physically and not from the catalogue you get 5 for 50 cents.

I didn't use catalog at all and I still get one per tin.

[Jason]

Just now, SAS_Intruder said:

I didn't use catalog at all and I still get one per tin.

He means buying them literally off the shelf at a store, if you do that you'll get 5 for 50c.

[TheSantader25]

You know the economy is broken when a single salmon fish earns you more than a mission involving killing 20 people. 

[kenmy13999]

Red Dead hunting/fishing simulator 

 

 

[The Notorious MOB]

I don't think the prices are too high at all. The problem is that the pay outs are far too low. For example the Mauser is the most expensive weapon in the game. I seen somebody on YouTube say that in 1899 a Mauser cost $35. But then they tried to say that if the gun costs $1000 thatd be the equivalent of $30,000 today. However this isn't the case at all.. If $1000 dollars in 2018 is worth 30,000 in 1899 then $35 (the cost of a Mauser back then) would be $1050 which is pretty much spot on to be fair. If anything we're saving money.

[Gallows]

9 minutes ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

I don't think the prices are too high at all. The problem is that the pay outs are far too low. For example the Mauser is the most expensive weapon in the game. I seen somebody on YouTube say that in 1899 a Mauser cost $35. But then they tried to say that if the gun costs $1000 thatd be the equivalent of $30,000 today. However this isn't the case at all.. If $1000 dollars in 2018 is worth 30,000 in 1899 then $35 (the cost of a Mauser back then) would be $1050 which is pretty much spot on to be fair. If anything we're saving money.

what? Where did you study economy? Monthy Pythons Flying Cirkus

[kenmy13999]

16 minutes ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

I don't think the prices are too high at all. The problem is that the pay outs are far too low. 

Isn't that kind of the same thing in this virtual world?  It's the balance between what you earn and what things cost that is the problem. Wouldn't be a problem if things cost the same but it was easier/faster to make money, and it wouldn't be a problem if making money is same as now as long as prices for items are a lot lower

[The Notorious MOB]

11 minutes ago, Gallows said:

what? Where did you study economy? Monthy Pythons Flying Cirkus

Am I wrong? Please explain.

 

And no it's not the same thing. What I mean is that they need to raise the pay outs to make the grind less because if they lower the prices then grinders will benefit much more than casual gamers. Or rather, those of us who have a life outside of our bedroom.

Edited December 5, 2018 by Money Over Bullshit

[kenmy13999]

5 minutes ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

Am I wrong? Please explain.

 

And no it's not the same thing. What I mean is that they need to raise the pay outs to make the grind less because if they lower the prices then grinders will benefit much more than casual gamers. Or rather, those of us who have a life outside of our bedroom.

The grind will still be less if they lower the prices and still earn the same as now. 

 

If you earn $100 an hour it will take 10 hours to be able to buy a Mauser when it costs $1000, if they lowered the price to $700, it will take 7 hours, that's less of a grind, isn't it?

[The Notorious MOB]

2 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

The grind will still be less if they lower the prices and still earn the same as now. 

 

If you earn $100 an hour it will take 10 hours to be able to buy a Mauser when it costs $1000, if they lowered the price to $700, it will take 7 hours, that's less of a grind, isn't it?

Yes. Maybe you should read what I said again. 

 

You're not going to earn $100 an hour now easily so that aspect of your argument is pretty much null and void.

Edited December 5, 2018 by Money Over Bullshit

[Gallows]

14 minutes ago, Money Over Bullsh*t said:

Am I wrong? Please explain.

It just doesn’t make sense. You have got the concept of inflation all backwards. You talk about the price of a mauser being $35 back then which is $1050 today, which is almost spot on for the ingame price. BUT the game takes place in 1898!

 

Second thing is you say that $1000 today would be worth 30.000 back then? No that’s not how inflation work. When figuring out the value of money you compare to prices and wages.

 

Someone making $1000 in 1890’s would be relatively the same as someone making $30.000 in 2018 (if the numbers are correct - haven’t checked). Someone making $1000 today would be about the same as someone making $33 back then.

 

The game takes place in 1898.

Edited December 5, 2018 by Gallows

[The Notorious MOB]

2 minutes ago, Gallows said:

It just doesn’t make sense. You have got the concept of inflation all backwards. You talk about the price of a mauser being $35 back then which is $1050 today, which is almost spot on for the ingame price. BUT the game takes place in 1898!

 

Second thing is you say that $1000 today would be worth 30.000 back then? No that’s not how inflation work. When figuring out the value of money you compare to prices and wages.

 

Someone making $1000 in 1890’s would be relatively the same as someone making $30.000 in 2018 (if the numbers are correct - haven’t checked). Someone making $1000 today would be about the same as someone making $33 back then.

 

The game takes place in 1898.

Yeah so $35 dollars back then would be the same as 1000 now. Why is that so hard to understand? The problem isn't the price. The problem is the 'wages'. Gaming isn't a full time job so your logic doesn't work here. Right now you can easily earn 30 dollars an hour.. Imagine earning that in real life. You'd be earning over 62000 a year so I don't think buying a 1000 dollar pistol even back then would be a problem. Except that it's still only $35 so you could buy 1777 of them if you wanted to.