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The economy is not broken...!

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joedelta
2 hours ago, Callahan44 said:

North of st denis,fill pockets with spoonbill,pelicans and herons,kill some aligators/dear/pigs/rats/frogs etc on the way. 

varmint rifle works the best until small arrows can be unlocked

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Nemecsis
6 minutes ago, joedelta said:

If they were going for realism, we would only make about 450 for the year. I love how everyone sits there complaining about guns/items not costing 1890's price, yet they have no problem with make wages more then the actual time period. SMH. The average person back didn't have a stock pile of horses and guns within one week, much less one year.

Someone is figuring it out, not that hard to make money. Hell even worms, crickets, and crayfish catch them. I normally fish til i hit my salmon limit and sell the other fish. 1.00 a piece but it adds up when you have 20 plus.

Hahaha you're so edgy and cool. 

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joedelta
Just now, Hatin Since 87 said:

Uhhhhh. What? 

 

So you think a can of beans costs more than a gold ring in 1899? 

why would you need gold beans when you can cook a seasoned venison instead for free? Plus who buys provisions besides gun oil? Just raid some houses. 

1 minute ago, Nemecsis said:

Hahaha you're so edgy and cool. 

Thanks, i have a leather jacket and play bass guitar too.

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Hatin Since 87
Just now, joedelta said:

why would you need gold beans when you can cook a seasoned venison instead for free? Plus who buys provisions besides gun oil? Just raid some houses. 

I didn’t say I wanted the f*cking beans... but the fact when I sell a gold ring I get less money for it than a can of beans costs... ya... kinda self explanatory. 

 

Cant even trade a f*cking ring for some damn beans. And people like you defend that. 🙄

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joedelta
1 minute ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

I didn’t say I wanted the f*cking beans... but the fact when I sell a gold ring I get less money for it than a can of beans costs... ya... kinda self explanatory. 

 

Cant even trade a f*cking ring for some damn beans. And people like you defend that. 🙄

it is what it is, if that is your main source of getting income, maybe it's time to go back to gtao. maybe they forgot to remove the decimal, maybe the rings are fake as f**k. They will probably increase value. Game has been out for less then a week and that is your main argument? 

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RayD70
19 minutes ago, joedelta said:

If they were going for realism, we would only make about 450 for the year. I love how everyone sits there complaining about guns/items not costing 1890's price, yet they have no problem with make wages more then the actual time period. SMH. The average person back didn't have a stock pile of horses and guns within one week, much less one year.

Someone is figuring it out, not that hard to make money. Hell even worms, crickets, and crayfish catch them. I normally fish til i hit my salmon limit and sell the other fish. 1.00 a piece but it adds up when you have 20 plus.

Dakota river just north of the bend closest to Strawberry. Catch your limit of salmon. Ride south to Limpany. Catch limit of smallmouth. Ride a bit further south. Catch limit of steelheads. Assuming no trash fish (which a lure doesn't usually catch), that's $105 in like 20 minutes if you catch the right schools. Slightly longer if using live bait since you have to reapply and can catch trash fish by accident. But even trash fish are worth enough money to profit.

 

The prices ARE out of whack. 450 a year? Yeah. And a peacemaker cost then like $5.00 It's all perspective.

 

Even then, I'm fine with the price of guns and horses. It's the cost of everything else that's a bit too much. And I've been playing hunting/fishing simulator. Not Red Dead Online. Bumping up payouts makes everyone happy and gives more diversity to what you feel like doing that day.

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Hatin Since 87
43 minutes ago, joedelta said:

it is what it is, if that is your main source of getting income, maybe it's time to go back to gtao. maybe they forgot to remove the decimal, maybe the rings are fake as f**k. They will probably increase value. Game has been out for less then a week and that is your main argument? 

Oh no. If you were capable of following along and spent time in other threads you’d see I’ve raised multiple issues, as have many others.  That’s not my argument at all, that’s my rebuttal to your silly post about the economy in 1899. You think the economy is fine, which unfortunately enough for you, isn’t the same opinion as most. Hell, go watch ign discuss it, look on reddit, or browse here. 

 

But you heard it here folks, joe says the economy is fine, so all of our worries have been set free. Thank you joe, here I thought it was an endless grind with no clear objective. 

 

Maybe next week you can just come and play my game for me, since you obviously wanna tell us what is and isn’t broke about it and how we should be making/spending our money. 

 

Also, “it is what it is” pretty much says, “ya, that’s true, but I’m gonna argue and say you’re wrong anyway”. 

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joedelta
7 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

Oh no. If you were capable of following along and spent time in other threads you’d see I’ve raised multiple issues, as have many others.  That’s not my argument at all, that’s my rebuttal to your silly post about the economy in 1899. You think the economy is fine, which unfortunately enough for you, isn’t the same opinion as most. Hell, go watch ign discuss it, look on reddit, or browse here. 

 

But you heard it here folks, joe says the economy is fine, so all of our worries have been set free. Thank you joe, here I thought it was an endless grind with no clear objective. 

 

Maybe next week you can just come and play my game for me, since you obviously wanna tell us what is and isn’t broke about it and how we should be making/spending our money. 

Your welcome, and i always have room in my posse for one more if you need help earning money. It's really not that hard. And my post are getting liked, so i guess i'm not the only one who feels this way.

4 hours ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

Also, if the economy isn’t broken, why are companies like ign saying it is? All it takes is a quick look on the forums here, Reddit, ign, etc. every single one says the economy is broken, but, lucky for us we have the only person that’s figured out it isn’t broken... just don’t spend your money. 

 

f*cking brilliant! 

I don't really read too much into media nowadays. They are normally bias and caterer to who they want to. 

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Hatin Since 87
1 minute ago, joedelta said:

Your welcome, and i always have room in my posse for one more if you need help earning money. It's really not that hard. And my post are getting liked, so i guess i'm not the only one who feels this way.

Well, don’t you just feel accepted. Someone on the internet liked my post, so I must be correct. 🙄

 

i dont need help earning money. I don’t think you’re able to understand what people are saying if that’s what you’re taking it as. 

 

Again. 

 

Gold ring = $1.10

 

Beans = $1.20

 

Horse insurance for gold. 

 

112 gold bars to unlock fast travel at camp. 

 

Daily camp fees. Fees to move my camp, then it randomly moves itself anyway forcing me to spend money again to move it back where I want. 

 

f*cking feathers costs more than gold rings? 

 

Then you wanna come in and act like everyone who says something about it is f*cking stupid, and try to educate everyone about 1899. 

 

Thats your argument? 450 an entire year in 1899? All while overlooking the basic bullsh*t like I’ve outlined above? 

 

Well thank god for you professor, and here I thought gold was worth more than beans and feathers in those times. Thanks for clearing it up, I now realize the in game economy isn’t broken, gold just wasn’t worth sh*t in them days. And to think, all those people who risked their lives during the gold rush could have just stayed home and shot pelicans and grew beans 🙄

 

 

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joedelta

But don't worry, Rockstar is rebalancing the economy. I'm sure rings will be more now.

 

"Mrbossforthewin here telling you how to do a gold ring dupe glitch". "Make thousands in a hour, but before that, make sure you smash that like and subscribe button".

 

But don't complain when 10 year old's are trolling with snipers and ulimited dynamite. Or how you own everything and the game is boring and they need new stuff. 

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Hatin Since 87
3 minutes ago, joedelta said:

But don't worry, Rockstar is rebalancing the economy. I'm sure rings will be more now.

 

"Mrbossforthewin here telling you how to do a gold ring dupe glitch". "Make thousands in a hour, but before that, make sure you smash that like and subscribe button".

 

But don't complain when 10 year old's are trolling with snipers and ulimited dynamite. Or how you own everything and the game is boring and they need new stuff. 

As long as there’s the ability to buy gold bars and use them for guns 10 year olds are gonna use mommy’s credit card and get that sh*t anyway. The only ones being punished are the ones who don’t spend real money on a f*cking gun or horse. 

 

But by all means, keep defending it. 

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joedelta
2 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

As long as there’s the ability to buy gold bars and use them for guns 10 year olds are gonna use mommy’s credit card and get that sh*t anyway. The only ones being punished are the ones who don’t spend real money on a f*cking gun or horse. 

 

But by all means, keep defending it. 

Or you could level up and buy it. its not that hard of a concept. Gold bars unlock things or add cosmetics. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEM!!!!!!! It's just like shark cards, they are there but not needed. Red Dead Online was included with the game free, you don't have to play it.

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Gallows
1 hour ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

Uhhhhh. What? 

 

So you think a can of beans costs more than a gold ring in 1899? 

No - but do you think the average person sold houndreds of gold rings each month?

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Hatin Since 87
1 minute ago, joedelta said:

Or you could level up and buy it. its not that hard of a concept. Gold bars unlock things or add cosmetics. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THEM!!!!!!! It's just like shark cards, they are there but not needed. Red Dead Online was included with the game free, you don't have to play it.

🤦‍♂️

 

Hard to debate something when someone can’t understand a damn thing. 

 

Where did I say i was gonna, or have to buy gold bars? I’ll wait...

 

The fact your reply is “you don’t have to play it” doesn’t confirm your stance, it actually makes it worse. The economy is f*cked up, but, accept it or you don’t have to play it. 

 

🙄

2 minutes ago, Gallows said:

No - but do you think the average person sold houndreds of gold rings each month?

Aren’t we supposed to be an outlaw who robs and steals money and jewelry? 

 

Doesnt sound much like the average person to me. 

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mistermaster7
2 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

🤦‍♂️

 

Hard to debate something when someone can’t understand a damn thing. 

 

Where did I say i was gonna, or have to buy gold bars? I’ll wait...

 

The fact your reply is “you don’t have to play it” doesn’t confirm your stance, it actually makes it worse. The economy is f*cked up, but, accept it or you don’t have to play it. 

 

🙄

Come on  stop arquing already. You are clearly not happy with this game so stop playing until Rockstar fixes the economy. 

 

They already tweeted they are gonna balance out that part of the game so people like you don't need to cry about it. 

 

 

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Hatin Since 87
3 minutes ago, mistermaster7 said:

Come on  stop arquing already. You are clearly not happy with this game so stop playing until Rockstar fixes the economy. 

 

They already tweeted they are gonna balance out that part of the game so people like you don't need to cry about it. 

 

 

Lol get off their nuts. If you look in the single player thread I’ve defended the game over and over. 

 

Funny you milk duds sit and scream “but it’s a beta” which last time I checked means people are supposed to bring up issues with the game, but the second people raise issues with the game you wanna scream “well quit playing if you don’t like it”. 

 

🙄 juveniles. 

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Lonely-Martin
11 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

 

Aren’t we supposed to be an outlaw who robs and steals money and jewelry? 

 

Doesnt sound much like the average person to me. 

Just comedy gold that he's been so pro-realism, but now it's all gold. :)

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Hatin Since 87
Just now, Lonely-Martin said:

Just comedy gold that he's been so pro-realism, but now it's all gold. :)

Lol, it’s ridiculous. How can you sit and use the economy in 1899 as an example, then totally ignore the fact rings costs less than beans, and a feather from a bird costs more than beans and gold combined? Logic...it skips right past some people. 

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mistermaster7
8 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

Lol get off their nuts. If you look in the single player thread I’ve defended the game over and over. 

 

Funny you milk milk duds sit and scream “but it’s a beta” which last time I checked means people are supposed to bring up issues with the game, but the second people raise issues with the game you wanna scream “well quit playing if you don’t like it”. 

 

🙄 juveniles. 

I ain't in their nuts. I just like the game as it is now and i have no problem with prices because I don't have to buy beans or gold watches. I can loot them and sell if I want. I also know Rockstar is going to balance those things.

 

But all you do is cry about it here makes me wonder you should stop playing for a while. Games are not meant to be so frustrsting so I feel really bad for you. Hopefully you can enjoy the game some day. 

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Gallows
4 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Just comedy gold that he's been so pro-realism, but now it's all gold. :)

It was a humorous remark, nothing more. It’s a pointless debate and the futility grows with each additional post. R* are looking at the economy. Let’s see what they come up with. 😄

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Lonely-Martin
2 minutes ago, mistermaster7 said:

I ain't in their nuts. I just like the game as it is now and ai have no problem with prices because so don't have to buy beans or gold watches. I can loot them and sell if I want. I also know Rockstar is going to balance those things.

 

But all you do is cry about it here makes me wonder you should stop playing for a while. Games are not meant to be so frustrsting so I feel really bad for you. Hopefully you can enjoy the game some day. 

Be fair though, opinions clash and if people are gonna quote realism, they should see it through, lol.

1 minute ago, Gallows said:

It was a humorous remark, nothing more. It’s a pointless debate and the futility grows with each additional post. R* are looking at the community. Let’s see what they come up with. 😄

True. But every time one says it's good, I or others may add counter argument too.

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Gallows
Just now, Lonely-Martin said:

Be fair though, opinions clash and if people are gonna quote realism, they should see it through, lol.

There is a difference between types of realism though. I think the kind of realism I like is the immersive kind, but not at the expense of gameplay. Fingers crossed that R* come up with a happy medium, we can both be happy with 😏

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Hatin Since 87
Just now, mistermaster7 said:

I ain't in their nuts. I just like the game as it is now and ai have no problem with prices because so don't have to buy beans or gold watches. I can loot them and sell if I want. I also know Rockstar is going to balance those things.

 

But all you do is cry about it here makes me wonder you should stop playing for a while. Games are not meant to be so frustrsting so I feel really bad for you. Hopefully you can enjoy the game some day. 

Don’t take my criticism of the game as a dislike for the game. If I didn’t like the game I wouldn’t bother discussing its flaws hoping they improve them. I’m just pissed off the fact that 

 

A) Rockstar has spit in the face of its core fans by monetizing the piss out of the game

 

and 

 

B) People are so willing to let rockstar do it, and defend them doing it. 

 

Gaming will never be what it used to be if people defend these actions. Remember putting a game in, playing with your friends, and downloading additional content when it came out for no cost at all? Developers used to treat their games like a piece of art they loved, and wanted to continue showing it love by adding things in so the player base would continually enjoy their art. 

 

Now I don’t expect them to continue working and releasing things for free, as it costs money to pay employees to do this, but at the same time I don’t wanna bend over and lube up so they can jam it in as deep and hard as they can, while other people applaud it and defend it. 

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joedelta
16 minutes ago, mistermaster7 said:

Come on  stop arquing already. You are clearly not happy with this game so stop playing until Rockstar fixes the economy. 

 

They already tweeted they are gonna balance out that part of the game so people like you don't need to cry about it. 

 

 

If he isn't happy now, i'm sure he won't stick around long, supposed balance and all.

3 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said:

Don’t take my criticism of the game as a dislike for the game. If I didn’t like the game I wouldn’t bother discussing its flaws hoping they improve them. I’m just pissed off the fact that 

 

A) Rockstar has spit in the face of its core fans by monetizing the piss out of the game

 

and 

 

B) People are so willing to let rockstar do it, and defend them doing it. 

 

Gaming will never be what it used to be if people defend these actions. Remember putting a game in, playing with your friends, and downloading additional content when it came out for no cost at all? Developers used to treat their games like a piece of art they loved, and wanted to continue showing it love by adding things in so the player base would continually enjoy their art. 

 

Now I don’t expect them to continue working and releasing things for free, as it costs money to pay employees to do this, but at the same time I don’t wanna bend over and lube up so they can jam it in as deep and hard as they can, while other people applaud it and defend it. 

I'm not defending the devs, i'm just saying it doesn't affect me one bit. Companies are going to make money one way or another. Servers don't run for free, employees don't either, advertising cost. You do want content updates right?????

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Lonely-Martin
6 minutes ago, Gallows said:

There is a difference between types of realism though. I think the kind of realism I like is the immersive kind, but not at the expense of gameplay. Fingers crossed that R* come up with a happy medium, we can both be happy with 😏

Yeah, I just can't see it really. They want freeloaders out, said we're a problem. And with defenders of such poor tactics and seeing how exploits are running wild here (rank 75!). Gaming is proper f*cked right now. It's becoming a farce.

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Hatin Since 87
3 minutes ago, joedelta said:

If he isn't happy now, i'm sure he won't stick around long, supposed balance and all.

I'm not defending the devs, i'm just saying it doesn't affect me one bit. Companies are going to make money one way or another. Servers don't run for free, employees don't either, advertising cost. You do want content updates right?????

Wtf are you going on about? Why don’t you reply to the message I replied to you about, that reply was directed at someone else. I was explaining I don’t dislike the game and giving my reasons why I think monetizing, in small doses, is ok, and a necessary evil. 

 

You were talking about the economy not being broke. 2 totally separate things. 

2 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Yeah, I just can't see it really. They want freeloaders out, said we're a problem. And with defenders of such poor tactics and seeing how exploits are running wild here (rank 75!). Gaming is proper f*cked right now. It's becoming a farce.

Exactly. All it takes is a quick look at EA and Bethesda. I love rockstar games, and I want them to be around for many years. I don’t however want them to end up on this monetize everything and ruin the gameplay sh*t that’s killing the rest of the industry. But as long as people buy into it and defend it, it will continue to get worse. 

 

Dont keep feeding a monster and try to kill it once it gets too big and powerful. 

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Gallows
23 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Yeah, I just can't see it really. They want freeloaders out, said we're a problem. And with defenders of such poor tactics and seeing how exploits are running wild here (rank 75!). Gaming is proper f*cked right now. It's becoming a farce.

I’ll wait and see. I’m not sure which way they’ll swing. Personally the freeaim lobbies make or break the game for me. Anything else is just a bonus or drawback.

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Lonely-Martin
3 minutes ago, Gallows said:

I’ll wait and see. I’m not sure which way they’ll swing. Personally the freeaim lobbies make or break the game for me. Anything else is just a bonus or drawback.

That's the frustrating part. There's just so much potential to give millions their game of it.

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Gallows
9 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

That's the frustrating part. There's just so much potential to give millions their game of it.

The games does have massive potential. If they f*ck it up, it won’t be the first time in gaming history - but I still have some hope :)

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Hatin Since 87
1 minute ago, Gallows said:

The games does have massive potential. If they f*ck it up, it won’t be the first time in gaming history - but I still have some hope :)

I have a lot of hope. Possibly the best open world game we’ve seen, single player wise anyway. My only hope is they fix the economy and take away the incentive to buy gold bars. Anyone with half a brain can see that’s what they’re trying to steer us towards. Why else would certain horses be locked behind gold bars without the ability to buy them with regular in game currency? 

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