Chrismads Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 So it seems the best pvp weapon is the... VARMINT rifle.. what the hell? It'll 1 shot kill on headshots, and shoots incredebly fast. I really hope this will be patched. Don't even think a .22 would kill you in real life if you got shot right in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) All weapons kill with a single headshot. I think one hit kills via headshot is a little too much, headshots should only do increased damage. It can lead to some very cheap kills. It encourages a shoot on sight mentality since that other player can just dispatch you with a single shot if you give him the chance. When they fix honor, I imagine it will strip honor away if you attack first, meaning you would have to wait for him to attack first before you can retaliate without a loss of honor, but what if that one shot he fires is a headshot? Sniper rifles should be the only exception to this rule. The best weapons I imagine are the ones that have the most range and enables you to shoot first and land that headshot. Honor does not mean much now but I imagine that will change when the game goes live. Right now you can even have max honor and get no store discounts, when I believe you are suppose to. Edited December 2, 2018 by Ghoffman9 ZOMars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmy13999 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ghoffman9 said: All weapons kill with a single headshot. Not my experience. The revolver you're given at start of online needs at least two headshot to get a kill, tried several times I'm freeroam challenges Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said: Not my experience. The revolver you're given at start of online needs at least two headshot to get a kill, tried several times I'm freeroam challenges Are you sure your gun isn't just dirty? I've got 1-shots with the cattleman. 13 minutes ago, Ghoffman9 said: All weapons kill with a single headshot. I think one hit kills via headshot is a little too much, headshots should only do increased damage. It can lead to some very cheap kills. It encourages a shoot on sight mentality since that other player can just dispatch you with a single shot if you give him the chance. When they fix honor, I imagine it will strip honor away if you attack first, meaning you would have to wait for him to attack first before you can retaliate without a loss of honor, but what if that one shot he fires is a headshot? Sniper rifles should be the only exception to this rule. The best weapons I imagine are the ones that have the most range and enables you to shoot first and land that headshot. Honor does not mean much now but I imagine that will change when the game goes live. Right now you can even have max honor and get no store discounts, when I believe you are suppose to. Yes i think you're right about all weapons 1-shot headshots, and that whats makes the varmint best pvp rifle imo. It has amazing fire rate and accuracy. Nurolight and AUScowboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Chrismads said: Are you sure your gun isn't just dirty? I've got 1-shots with the cattleman. Yes i think you're right about all weapons 1-shot headshots, and that whats makes the varmint best pvp rifle imo. It has amazing fire rate and accuracy. I find Bolt action to be the best at the start of a fight. You can shoot first upon opponents as they approach from a range that they cannot. I won 1 vs 2 and even 1 vs 3 fights cause I had the range on them. They spammed their repeaters, but my bolt action rifle always let me lock on and shoot first and land those headshots. Due to the one hit kill headshots, the one who gets to shoot first is the one that wins so long as that shot is a headshot. Edited December 2, 2018 by Ghoffman9 AUScowboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmy13999 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chrismads said: Are you sure your gun isn't just dirty? I've got 1-shots with the cattleman. Yes, 100% sure. Tried with the Schofield later and that was one shot kill. You sure they had full health? arsenal_fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said: Yes, 100% sure. Tried with the Schofield later and that was one shot kill. You sure they had full health? No i'm not. He might have been a weak boi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) the Varmint rifle needs to be 2 headshots to kill or have the rate of fire cut. It’s stupid that it’s the best PvP gun. Edited December 2, 2018 by Gallows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmy13999 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chrismads said: No i'm not. He might have been a weak boi It might have been lag that caused it for me but I tried several times so I'm quite sure. Also thought that maybe my aim was way off but after buying the Schofield I got the kill on first shot. Not saying you're wrong cause there might be several things in play here and my testing alone probably isn't enough to determine this edit: Maybe distance have something to say? Edited December 2, 2018 by kenmy13999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broblab Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I guess OP came up against sometime good with headshots and they happened to have the varment rifle. Thankfully the thing isn't too expensive and the ammo is limited. And it's range is trumped by the Lancaster. Anyone with a handgun is definitely screwed but they have to keep on their game and not come into contact with a slugged shotgun or the Lancaster or Litchfield at it's effective ranges. However, anyone with starter weapons is boned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Pie Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 52 minutes ago, Chrismads said: Don't even think a .22 would kill you in real life if you got shot right in the face. Erm...it most certainly would! Potentially fatal at over 200 + yards and beyond IRL. R3CON, Priyantha1, JuliuszMCMXCVII and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broblab Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gallows said: the Varmint rifle needs to be 2 headshots to kill or have the rate of fire cut. It’s stupid that it’s the best PvP gun. I can't back this up, but in story mode, i mained it and knew for a fact that it would be good in free roam to get pvp idiots off me quickly. If it gets nerfed, I'm not going to play anymore. Sure it's a one shot headshot like everything else, but if you miss or hit body, you're already screwed. Go buy one and stop whining. Edited December 2, 2018 by Broblab JuliuszMCMXCVII 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Broblab said: I can't back this up, but in story mode, i mained it and knew for a fact that it would be good in free roam to get pvp idiots off me quickly. If it gets nerfed, I'm not going to play anymore. Sure it's a one shot headshot like everything else, but if you miss or hit body, you're already screwed. Go buy one and stop whining. I have used it since day one. Got it for free. I know you like it - of course you do. It’s the best gun. But it’s not about you, it’s about the game balance and the firing rate of the Varmint rifle is too quick. Edited December 2, 2018 by Gallows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFolo Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I was surprised when my friend was telling me how he was killing people with a Varmit rifle. I was expect that thing to be weak considering the bullets it used. I might have to give this gun a shot and see how it performs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha-Jamz Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Chrismads said: So it seems the best pvp weapon is the... VARMINT rifle.. what the hell? It'll 1 shot kill on headshots, and shoots incredebly fast. I really hope this will be patched. Don't even think a .22 would kill you in real life if you got shot right in the face. Wanna try this out ? .22 is really bad believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ghoffman9 said: All weapons kill with a single headshot. Not for me. I'm having to hit people 3 or 4 times in the DM's or showdowns. I got them clean and close, often just takes half health. But of course, I get dropped in one, lol. Very inconsistent. Having read since, I'm still on the noob weapons, lol. Edited December 2, 2018 by Lonely-Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qbert Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The headshot glitch can be annoying though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmy13999 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Qbert said: The headshot glitch can be annoying though What is the headshot glitch? Seen it mentioned a couple of times but no explanation of what it is. I'm not after how to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Tha-Jamz said: Wanna try this out ? .22 is really bad believe me. It’s all I use for PvP. Getting headshots is easy and the rate of fire helps of you miss the first shot. Chrismads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonFolo Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Headshots are always one shot regardless of weapon used from what I've seen and used. Maybe some of you have been hitting the upper chest or possibly some server lag has affected your shot or you may not have the best aim. 11 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said: What is the headshot glitch? Seen it mentioned a couple of times but no explanation of what it is. I'm not after how to do it I ain't too sure on what it is but guessing by what people have said, i would guess it's a glitch that registers any shot on the person as a headshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callahan44 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 It should be a really bad choice for anything but hunting. Fatsanchez and Chrismads 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliuszMCMXCVII Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Yep, been using varmint since day one and I'm getting close to having over 2000 kills with it. IMO there is no need to nerf it. As long as we don't get any free aim lobbies it is my weapon of choice. I haven't spent a single cent on any weapons yet since I'm using only the free ones and I'm very fine with this. Also a headshot always means a kill, no matter what gun you use. It is been like that since forever in r* titles. Sometimes my headshots did not register despite the fact that the game displayed the crosshair cleary indicating the headshot. However it is a rare occurance. Maybe you all just came accross players with "bulletproof hat" ability card, huh? (ffs why would r* do this again? I was so fed up with bp helmet kids in gtao) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1337 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Lonely-Martin said: Not for me. I'm having to hit people 3 or 4 times in the DM's or showdowns. I got them clean and close, often just takes half health. But of course, I get dropped in one, lol. Very inconsistent. Having read since, I'm still on the noob weapons, lol. There is no way you have to shoot people in the head that many times. I dont think it has happened to me once that someone hasnt instantly dropped when shot in the head. Even with starter weapons JuliuszMCMXCVII 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, L1337 said: There is no way you have to shoot people in the head that many times. I dont think it has happened to me once that someone hasnt instantly dropped when shot in the head. Even with starter weapons Must be lag, very choppy out there today. But I don't really care as once the MVP trophy is in the bag, I'll not bother with pew pew pew games. Edited December 2, 2018 by Lonely-Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 For me, the shotguns have been the best for PvP (outside of long range attacks). Every player gets bodied by 1-2 shots at medium to close range. Run around like a madman and blast them before they know what hit them. Can't wait until I unlock slugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broblab Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Update: it sucks against the Lancaster at further ranges. As of this moment, it is a good "anti noob" "griefer" and "ambush" weapon. But against someone with the same or a longer range weapon, you better be faster than them. Again. Noob crusher but otherwise a good first swing. After that, use something longer. Edited December 3, 2018 by Broblab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Elite Ninjah Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 just use it if you think it's that good.. Stop asking for it do be nerved.... Leave it as is. It is my hunting rifle and nerving it or dropping the fire rate will mess with my hunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismads Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, Da Elite Ninjah said: just use it if you think it's that good.. Stop asking for it do be nerved.... Leave it as is. It is my hunting rifle and nerving it or dropping the fire rate will mess with my hunting It should of course still work for critter hunting. They should just nerf the damage it does towards players. Cant be intentional that a 72$ rifle is the best pvp weapon. Callahan44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accendo Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think it's great that headshots from every weapon kill in one hit. It makes it a hell of a lot harder for a posse of four to straight up crush random solo players as long as that player is decent. Also, a .22 round to the face absolutely can kill you. There's a chance that it might not with today's modern medicine but it'll still f*ck your face up and an injury like that in the old west was always a death sentence. Chrismads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusbeckia Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 11:25 AM, kenmy13999 said: Yes, 100% sure. Tried with the Schofield later and that was one shot kill. You sure they had full health? Dude. The cattleman is just more difficult to use. I land a lot of 1-shots with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
