StevenT475 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Yay.. A game worse than GTA Online when it comes to greifers. Seriously? Who thought taking out passive mode would be a good idea? Can't even go to Black Water to start quest. Everyone is camped around quest start waiting for new players to come then they ambush them. Ride into town and instantly get shot or your horse gets shot. Someone starts shooting or attacking you? Well don't fight back. You'll get bad rep if you kill them. I get what they are trying for, real wild west, outlaws. Blah blah blah. But in a game sense, where pretty much everyone is an ass or a troll... Bad idea. Can't wait for the update where sticky dynamite and armored horses are a thing. dairyworker, P.T., supanaut and 17 others 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rithrius Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I think people are blowing this issue way out of proportions... Sure i get shot at a few times but it's nothing i can't handle. Most of the time though, other players just stop in the streets to say howdy, and a good time was had by all. Or do i just have the insane luck of ending up on a server with decent people every single time? docholladay1976, Karlitoz-E, IamCourtney and 15 others 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenT475 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, Rithrius said: I think people are blowing this issue way out of proportions... Sure i get shot at a few times but it's nothing i can't handle. Most of the time though, other players just stop in the streets to say howdy, and a good time was had by all. Or do i just have the insane luck of ending up on a server with decent people every single time? I don't know what system you're on. Or if servers are split by country. But I've jumped servers so many times, and each one is the exact same. The second you go into town shots are going off everywhere. And most are centered around mission NPCs. RayD70, Lonely-Martin, Vaymasters and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggek Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, StevenT475 said: Yay.. A game worse than GTA Online when it comes to greifers. Seriously? Who thought taking out passive mode would be a good idea? Can't even go to Black Water to start quest. Everyone is camped around quest start waiting for new players to come then they ambush them. Ride into town and instantly get shot or your horse gets shot. Someone starts shooting or attacking you? Well don't fight back. You'll get bad rep if you kill them. I get what they are trying for, real wild west, outlaws. Blah blah blah. But in a game sense, where pretty much everyone is an ass or a troll... Bad idea. Can't wait for the update where sticky dynamite and armored horses are a thing. I already got dynamite from looting a gang hideout… Its sticky too... But I agree that it was a bad idea by the developers, to let "every new player" start in Blackwater... But just wait until the griefers realize that ammo costs money, and they have to grind as everbody else... I may take a couple of weeks or so, but the spawnkillers will be tired soon... Edited November 30, 2018 by roggek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rithrius Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Playing on PS4, and i'm not sure if servers are split by country, but that seems unlikely. If anything, i guess they probably seperated europe and america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggek Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rithrius said: Playing on PS4, and i'm not sure if servers are split by country, but that seems unlikely. If anything, i guess they probably seperated europe and america. I believe that they have split servers, between America and Europe, since in my timezone (CET+1) its relative calm in the early mornings... Im on XBox, and RDRO seems not being so "toxic" as people say, but I think that after the general relase for everyone today, that may has changed... Edited November 30, 2018 by roggek Chrismads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I just hate the spawning in. Always in the middle of a bunch ready to attack. Bores the puss out of me, but the I get free and I can play for 10 minutes. Bliss, until error 2xxxxx whatever. kenmy13999 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigars and chill Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 No jets so imo gta is far more toxic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperjack Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 You get griefed you grief back or leave, every multiplayer game has griefing, it's no different. I've teamed up with randoms more then I've been griefed. AdmiralJT and MaGicBush 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldsport Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 i mean the game is super fun, i had more good encounters then bad so far but the bad ones are just annoying esp when its a posse. i hope theres a passive mode because some ppl just try there best to be aholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyMike24 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Pepperjack said: You get griefed you grief back or leave, every multiplayer game has griefing, it's no different. I've teamed up with randoms more then I've been griefed. It's different when this isn't a game solely focused on combat, with no way to get away from it. I don't want to "grief back" I want to enjoy the game the way I want to play it. The most frustrating thing is that R* can easily put a stop to it by giving us private or pve lobbies. Hell, even passive mode My online experience so far feels cheap. Like I'm playing a free to play game from 2009. R3CON, cammopants, dairyworker and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wescolt Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 alright, never played GTO after the first few horribly buggy weeks so keep that in mind. Been playing RDO since it started and my first few encounters day one were pretty much getting lassoed and dragged or headshot from a distance, but since then I have come by a lot more people just doing their own thing as i do mine. I really think being able to see everyone on map is a griefers delight and does no one else any good. If that went away then there would really be that nice sense of wilderness and on your own but still that presence of possibly encountering people. To me that seems more exciting and tense than watching that purple dot near me constantly. nSoulz, Callahan44, saintsrow and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Whatever, pointless. Edited November 30, 2018 by Lonely-Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldsport Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, wescolt said: alright, never played GTO after the first few horribly buggy weeks so keep that in mind. Been playing RDO since it started and my first few encounters day one were pretty much getting lassoed and dragged or headshot from a distance, but since then I have come by a lot more people just doing their own thing as i do mine. I really think being able to see everyone on map is a griefers delight and does no one else any good. If that went away then there would really be that nice sense of wilderness and on your own but still that presence of possibly encountering people. To me that seems more exciting and tense than watching that purple dot near me constantly. same this one posse kept lassoing me and shooting me. i tried to show them that i was peaceful by running the other way and they just took advantage and head shotted me while i walked away lol so annoying, i said in another thread that this made me start randomly killing every player i came across who was alone but thats not how i want to play and im sure others dont want to play like that as well. rockstar could put a end to that. i also would like to RP as well but itd be impossible with ppl ruining the vibe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stayprivee Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 some dude tried killing me so I shot him in the head and I lost a lot of honor and the whole town turned on me theres also nothing to do at all in online, literally. you just do missions or do a deathmatch with its horrible shooting mechanics, or a race with bipolar horses im disappointed brose_sfr, HockeyMike24 and jazzbone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggek Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, winter.ak said: some dude tried killing me so I shot him in the head and I lost a lot of honor and the whole town turned on me theres also nothing to do at all in online, literally. you just do missions or do a deathmatch with its horrible shooting mechanics, or a race with bipolar horses im disappointed Ever tried to expand your views "outside of towns"? Go hunting, they say it gives good money at the butcher, and meat (that you can cook in your camp to survive) Every farmstead, house is lootable in means of food, tonics and stimulants... If people try not to play "GTAV online-style", this game has a lot to give and to discover... Edited November 30, 2018 by roggek Collibosher and RedDeadNedKelly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stayprivee Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, roggek said: trying to expand your views outside of towns? Go hunting, they say it gives good money at the butcher, and meat (that you can cook in your camp to survive) Every farmstead, house is lootable in means of food, tonics and stimulants... If people try not to play "GTAV online-style", this game has a lot to give and to discover... I don't enjoy hunting, even so that shouldn't be the only lucrative work there is. El Payaso, P.T. and Lonely-Martin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collibosher Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I'm on PS4 and I too have somehow managed to avoid major griefing. Sure, I've been attacked couple of times while doing missions and I do feel, that I should avoid unnecessary encounters with random player, but most of the time people just pass me by when I meet them. I find the GTA:O to be MUCH worse in this regard. However, I don't think this is going to last, specially when players are getting more and more money and resources to go on waste. Bullets are affordable already, but still. wescolt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rithrius Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, winter.ak said: some dude tried killing me so I shot him in the head and I lost a lot of honor and the whole town turned on me theres also nothing to do at all in online, literally. you just do missions or do a deathmatch with its horrible shooting mechanics, or a race with bipolar horses im disappointed The game is literally in a 3 day old Beta phase. What did you expect? cammopants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qbert Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 The servers are not split lol not in the least. I do believe some sort of bounty system or something should be in place just to lessen the idiots who just shoot to shoot. Right now there is no real penalty for killing people so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stayprivee Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rithrius said: The game is literally in a 3 day old Beta phase. What did you expect? They had 8 years to work on it. tonko, Hatin Since 87, ALifeOfMisery and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatin Since 87 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, winter.ak said: They had 8 years to work on it. But but but but but but but it’s a beta P.T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qbert Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Beta test is basically just a server test... P.T. and E•MO•TION 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyMike24 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 This "beta" should have came before the release of the game. Not after it. I feel like I paid for some cheap indie early access game off of Steam ALifeOfMisery, tonko, jhjij and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roggek Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, winter.ak said: I don't enjoy hunting, even so that shouldn't be the only lucrative work there is. Then maybe this game isn't for you. If people are trying to convince me that RDRO is a "prehistoric form of GTAO" they don't deserve my faith, sorry... Defending yourself is OK from gang members, wolves, bears and Cougars, and is a "vital part of the game", not just spawnkilling other players… I don't even know why people find satiisfacting in just griefing and spawnkilling? Yes, there is right now limited options what to do since it's a beta, but people should use their imagination, instead of just running around like asshats and shooting eachother. 46 minutes ago, winter.ak said: They had 8 years to work on it. If I don't remmber wrong the Online part of RDR2 was added in a very late state of these 8 years... Edited November 30, 2018 by roggek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I don't mind no passive mode, I don't mind the griefers, but f*cking remove constant player blips from the map. At least make the on-sight deathmatchers have to hunt down and find people to kill. There is nothing cool or fun about everyone knowing exactly where you are, or knowing where everyone else is. It completely ruins the immersion, the surprise of finding other people and just invites idiots to harass. jhjij, SythikX, Doublepulse and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublepulse Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Snowman said: I don't mind no passive mode, I don't mind the griefers, but f*cking remove constant player blips from the map. At least make the on-sight deathmatchers have to hunt down and find people to kill. There is nothing cool or fun about everyone knowing exactly where you are, or knowing where everyone else is. It completely ruins the immersion, the surprise of finding other people and just invites idiots to harass. I agree with this! There is something that kind of ruins the magic of role playing and even just playing the game in general if I know where everyone is. The exception to the rules should be if you are in a posse and only nearby blips are shown in a small radius. jhjij 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Shark Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I had this issue with a troll, camping the mission area. Picked me off as soon as I came out of the cut scene. This is why the bounty system from single player needs implementing in online. If these griefers try to pull this crap, they'll eventually have to run off, as the law will be hassling too much. It will force them to flee and pay off their bounty at a post office. And the bounty should stay on their heads until it is paid off, or they serve a set amount of time in a jail. Out of curiosity, if you are killed, do you lose anything like cash or bullets from dying? jhjij and Bakkerbaard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SALO or The 120 Days Of Sodom Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, White Shark said: I had this issue with a troll, camping the mission area. Picked me off as soon as I came out of the cut scene. This is why the bounty system from single player needs implementing in online. If these griefers try to pull this crap, they'll eventually have to run off, as the law will be hassling too much. It will force them to flee and pay off their bounty at a post office. And the bounty should stay on their heads until it is paid off, or they serve a set amount of time in a jail. Out of curiosity, if you are killed, do you lose anything like cash or bullets from dying? not that I've noticed, no. White Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I can usually outrun people once I got my horse. Ultimate horse is a lot slower than a majority of asshole's horses lol But seriously, if you want to avoid people start a FR session in the next state over from the one you want. That way less people are likely to be in the area, I had to do that for a few strangers Happy Hunter and White Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
