Horsesh*t Overlook

[~INDIO~]

https://www.rockstargames.com/mouthoff Anyone interested in getting the option to remove the Off-hand Holster, tell Rockstar because we'll be stuck with it forever otherwise.

[Chrismads]

7 minutes ago, ~INDIO~ said:

https://www.rockstargames.com/mouthoff Anyone interested in getting the option to remove the Off-hand Holster, tell Rockstar because we'll be stuck with it forever otherwise.

Done. Also mentioned how stupid mini map player blips is. My two main issues with the game

[feckyerlife]

1 hour ago, ~INDIO~ said:

https://www.rockstargames.com/mouthoff Anyone interested in getting the option to remove the Off-hand Holster, tell Rockstar because we'll be stuck with it forever otherwise.

if they get rid of the off hand holster, then they will have to get rid of the duel pistol option. I myself don't mine the off hand holster because i use the all black one, but i never understood why they put it where they did, it should just be on his other hip.  

[Lemoyne outlaw]

im just wondering why do people hate the second holster? i hear so many people complaining about it. but it seems okay to me. is it glitched? or do people not want to dual wield? before the game came out people kept talking about how they were excited to dual wield. please explain.

[Nutduster]

8 minutes ago, feckyerlife said:

if they get rid of the off hand holster, then they will have to get rid of the duel pistol option

 

All they have to do really is let you select in your wardrobe whether you use the second holster or not, and if you don't have it equipped, you don't get the second revolver in the weapon wheel, and can't equip a second one until you re-equip the holster.  I assume this is simple enough to do as the game already has an extended beginning section with no second holster - all the logic is already there, they just need to give the player the option to change whether they're wearing it or not.

 

Just now, confederatestatesgta said:

im just wondering why do people hate the second holster? i hear so many people complaining about it. but it seems okay to me. is it glitched? or do people not want to dual wield? before the game came out people kept talking about how they were excited to dual wield. please explain.

 

Gamers will complain about any little thing that doesn't exactly meet their expectations, don't you know?  I think it looks badass myself but whatever.  I wouldn't mind if there was an option to remove it.

Edited November 28, 2018 by Nutduster

[Lemoyne outlaw]

2 minutes ago, Nutduster said:

 

Gamers will complain about any little thing that doesn't exactly meet their expectations, don't you know?  I think it looks badass myself but whatever.  I wouldn't mind if there was an option to remove it.

i knew that. but i assumed there was a legit reason for the hate.

[feckyerlife]

Just now, Nutduster said:

 

All they have to do really is let you select in your wardrobe whether you use the second holster or not, and if you don't have it equipped, you don't get the second revolver in the weapon wheel, and can't equip a second one until you re-equip the holster.  I assume this is simple enough to do as the game already has an extended beginning section with no second holster - all the logic is already there, they just need to give the player the option to change whether they're wearing it or not.

I agree that is what they should do, since the bandoleer is optional. But there is a couple threads about this topic and It seems like people want the 2nd holster removed while still keeping the option for the 2nd gun. 

[woggleman]

I forget it is even there. I change clothes a lot but forget about the holsters and gun belts.

[feckyerlife]

Just now, confederatestatesgta said:

i knew that. but i assumed there was a legit reason for the hate.

I think the hate is, the brown/stock holster is pretty ugly. They might not realize if they get the upgraded holster its all black and looks fine. But imo thats the reason for the hate. The other pain is the other all black holsters and i believe theres only 2, they are a pain in the ass to get. i believe you gotta pass bandit challenge 10 and gambler challenge 10 to get either one, which sucks, cause you cant get the bandit one without playing with low honor. 

1 minute ago, woggleman said:

I forget it is even there. I change clothes a lot but forget about the holsters and gun belts.

I always check, gotta make sure they go with what im wearing lol but my Arthur is always in all black if possible. 

[unicornace]

22 minutes ago, Nutduster said:

The whining about this is out of control.

 

Lol it truly is. You dont even see the front of your character most of the time. I think a lot of these guys would be better off playing dressup

[feckyerlife]

1 minute ago, unicornace said:

Lol it truly is. You dont even see the front of your character most of the time. I think a lot of these guys would be better off playing dressup

lol i bet most people complaining are probably playing the game in FPV

[Meekail]

What's Horseshoe Overlook got to do with this anyway?

[Satanta]

4 minutes ago, Meekail said:

What's Horseshoe Overlook got to do with this anyway?

I was wondering that same.  You get the second holster way out in Strawberry.

[Ingrobny]

If anything, I would rather be able to unequip the satchel and have a normal holster on the left side, it's because the satchel we must have the off hand holster and Arthur is using his left hand to take the gun from the off hand holster, the "right" way would be, drawing off hand gun with right hand and drawing gun from the right holster with his left hand, but then Arthur needed to have the grip facing forward.

[SM00V 0PERAT0R]

5 hours ago, feckyerlife said:

if they get rid of the off hand holster, then they will have to get rid of the duel pistol option. I myself don't mine the off hand holster because i use the all black one, but i never understood why they put it where they did, it should just be on his other hip.  

Or at least the option to wear the belt on the hip with both guns on your sides. The sagging belt is ridiculous.

4 hours ago, Ingrobny said:

If anything, I would rather be able to unequip the satchel and have a normal holster on the left side, it's because the satchel we must have the off hand holster and Arthur is using his left hand to take the gun from the off hand holster, the "right" way would be, drawing off hand gun with right hand and drawing gun from the right holster with his left hand, but then Arthur needed to have the grip facing forward.

There is also a knife in the way of the primary holster. Never a good idea to have something like that. The knife could've easily been attached to the boot or in the AIWB if the belt and holsters were not canted and sagging. The satchel could've been a rear butt pack too. Or, just no satchel at all because it's stupid to think I can store 500 canned fruit in it anyways. 

[Orfan Loom]

9 hours ago, confederatestatesgta said:

i assumed there was a legit reason for the hate.

The reason is that there is no option to take the holster off (or the satchel) - it can ruin your fashion.

 

Now, you might say "Come on! It's just a small detail. Forget it, pal"

And I'll say "Come on! It's just a small little detail! Not so hard to implement"

 

There is also no options for gun belts. I mean types of gun belts. Not even in online! I was hoping to get a Hosea Mathews gun belt. 

 

Apparently it was more important for R* to make stuff that player doesn't see most of the time instead of what's important.

There are hand-placed trees in every corner of the map, but customization of your character both in SP and MP is poor and restrictive. 

What a joke, I don't even know what to say.

 

After all it's not R* tripping over their weird unexpected f*ck-ups and falling into the plot holes -  It's ME!

(The f*ck-ups were actually much expected ever since GTA V, maybe even earlier but I was a blinded fan before GTA V)

 

I think the strongest and the best work they have done was Red Dead Redemption. It is so probably because it was so vague in it's storytelling and it didn't have too much sh*t going on.

Edited November 29, 2018 by Orfan Loom

[mehoe123]

I've never used dual wield all through my playthrough's but it doesnt bother me it's there.

[HopalongCasidy]

8 hours ago, mehoe123 said:

I've never used dual wield all through my playthrough's but it doesnt bother me it's there.

It's the barbie's dreamhouse contingent that seems most burned.  

[Haggis Basher]

I do wish we could have more options for holster locations, but I also realize that it wouldn't be just cosmetic, think of all the additional animations they would need o create. And also what about your satchel or place to keep your loot. I am sure this was one bone of contention for the developers and artists. Think of all the customization options if you had all these different holster locations.

[~INDIO~]

55 minutes ago, HopalongCasidy said:

It's the barbie's dreamhouse contingent that seems most burned.  

Hey there Ken

 

It's called Horsesh*t Overlook because it's Horsesh*t that this has been overlooked when it can be changed so easily. I realise it's not a massive deal to some tough guys here, but it just doesn't look good to me. I'd like 1 holster, that's it. How's it sooo difficult to make this happen

Edited November 29, 2018 by ~INDIO~
Slow kids

[Haggis Basher]

40 minutes ago, ~INDIO~ said:

Hey there Ken

 

It's called Horsesh*t Overlook because it's Horsesh*t that this has been overlooked when it can be changed so easily. I realise it's not a massive deal to some tough guys here, but it just doesn't look good to me. I'd like 1 holster, that's it. How's it sooo difficult to make this happen

I do agree you should be able to remove the side draw holster if you want. I think this was an oversight.

[éX-Driver]

I just wish I could dual-wield in the classic off hand style like Dutch does. The holster on the front makes Art look too much like a pirate. That style of holster was more a 17th and 18th century thing, because people would carry multiple pistols. The reason for that is because old flintlocks only fire 1 shot before they need to be reloaded, and take upwards of 40 seconds to reload, and that’s if you’re really good at it. Thus they’d carry 2-5 pistols, and have them lined up so they could be drawn with their dominant hand. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by éX-Driver

[~INDIO~]

Plus the holster doesn't even show up in cutscenes They need to sort this out

[Scaeva]

On 11/29/2018 at 10:50 AM, éX-Driver said:

I just wish I could dual-wield in the classic off hand style like Dutch does. The holster on the front makes Art look too much like a pirate. That style of holster was more a 17th and 18th century thing, because people would carry multiple pistols. The reason for that is because old flintlocks only fire 1 shot before they need to be reloaded, and take upwards of 40 seconds to reload, and that’s if you’re really good at it. Thus they’d carry 2-5 pistols, and have them lined up so they could be drawn with their dominant hand. 

 

The off-hand holster positioned so that the butt of the gun faced foward was actually a nice detail by the devs, even if some players don't care for how it looks and prefer the classic Hollywood portrayal. A lot of people in the Old West wore their guns like that because it made it easier to draw from horseback.

 

 

Edited December 3, 2018 by Scaeva

[Edward Nashton]

The only thing I don't like about the off hand holster is that it doesn't appear in cut scenes, but the position of the holster and the technique used to draw is a nod to old west folklore and speaks of Arthur's and so-and-so's preferred way of drawing.

 

 

This vid shows that the positioning of the holster is perfectly viable and makes sense if you're just drawing a single weapon.

 

When you draw while dual wielding, the maneuver used to draw from the off hand holster is called the Road Agent's Spin or the Curly Bill Spin, named after the outlaw William "Curly Bill" Brocius, he allegedly killed a sheriff by pretending to surrender his weapon then spinning it around and shooting him.

 

I mean, I learned all this with just ten minutes of research, and now I like the holster positioning even more - it's the little touches like this that really reinforce the fact that you're playing as an outlaw gunslinger, you even draw your f*cking weapon like a cop killer. Good job, Rockstar, that's a super deep cut of a reference.

Edited December 3, 2018 by Edward Nashton

[Xerukal]

The holster not showing up in cutscenes is the only thing that bothers me. It's a piece of mandatory equipment that is given to you as part of the story, yet they don't bother to show it in any cutscenes from that point onward? It's pretty strange. Not sure if it's a bug or by design.

[Seths]

Ive always thought that the off hand holster was added really late in development so that cutscenes etc were all done before so thats way we cant see it in them. Also some of the animations are obviously made for only one handgun. Its clipping with clothes and satchel and the body model when you sit or crouch example to campfire. Its just seems rushed really late. The most brutal thing is that you cant unequip it even when everybody knows that feature would be made like in 10 mins max. Like bandolier.

I really hope they patch this.

 

[~INDIO~]

1 hour ago, Seths said:

Ive always thought that the off hand holster was added really late in development so that cutscenes etc were all done before so thats way we cant see it in them. Also some of the animations are obviously made for only one handgun. Its clipping with clothes and satchel and the body model when you sit or crouch example to campfire. Its just seems rushed really late. The most brutal thing is that you cant unequip it even when everybody knows that feature would be made like in 10 mins max. Like bandolier.

I really hope they patch this.

 

Yep exactly. It doesn't look good at all.. plus it's annoying how in duels he always goes for that side

Really hope they change this. I don't get how anyone could like it.. they're obviously not western fans.. makes Arthur look like a f*cking pirate

[Xerukal]

The draw itself is absolutely authentic and fits, but the fact that it was added late and isn't justified in any story moment in the game (beyond its initial introduction) just makes it unappealing. I have no problem incorporating it into my outfits, since I can make the holster match the look quite easily. But I'd still unequip it if I had the choice. 

[Edward Nashton]

1 hour ago, ~INDIO~ said:

they're obviously not western fans.. makes Arthur look like a f*cking pirate

Bro...

 

 

Edited December 4, 2018 by Edward Nashton