Smokewood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, RayD70 said: That's all well and good, but as I said, I rarely get the pelts sold. By the time I get to town, they're gone. And no. I didn't die. Haven't experienced that. Myself and my crew mate had no issues at all getting, keeping, and then selling pelts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatin Since 87 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Maddened_Ghost said: I was going to say this but I realized that trying to explain something like this to someone who thinks people in a game are the same in real life is pointless, so I didn't. Ya. He’s a waste. With his logic we should all be bank robbers and mass murderers, cause you know, that’s what we do in our game MaddenedGhost and GN 92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenedGhost Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, RayD70 said: Lol, yeah right. Even if the pelts didn't disappear off your horse for no reason at all constantly, still not making that kind of money. I loaded up, didn't have anything on my horse, joined a mission, suddenly two pelts appeared on my horse (it was my own horse), after the mission, they disappeared, now if they stayed and I sold them some people in here would've sued me by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Maddened_Ghost said: I was going to say this but I realized that trying to explain something like this to someone who thinks people in a game are the same in real life is pointless, so I didn't. It’s the same excuse people use when drunk. There is no evidence suggesting that people can adopt a different sent of Internal values when playing a game or any other activity. Suggesting that it has nothing to do with tje person cheating or his general approach to life is just silly. Anyway, let’s give it a rest. It’s not going to ruin my sleep, hoping R* will ban all glitchers. Not all people can agree, but that doesn’t mean we can’t move on 4 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said: Ya. He’s a waste. With his logic we should all be bank robbers and mass murderers, cause you know, that’s what we do in our game What happens in the game is not real. Cheating is. It’s not hard. Really it’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenedGhost Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 by your analogy, actors are also in that category as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Yep! I didn't glitch in GTA but these prices are outrageous! -_- Hopefully I don't find out after it gets patched..... like I always did with the GTA ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, dieseltech20 said: Oh man, dont get me started on money spent on GTAO. I lost count of how many copies I have bought. At one point 3 people in the house were playing. All with their own console and copy of the game. 2 of those were bought just because of GTAO. Insanity. Bought it on PS3, then used it as an excuse to buy a PS4/GTAV bundle pack, and lately bought a PS Pro, just because it allows HD streaming when using Remote Play (which I never do). Of course, I needed a digital version of GTAV for it, and the Ultimate Edition of RDR2. And the occasional appreciative shark card, for not needed currency, still money well spent (on the hindsight, when I set foot on New Hanover soil for the first time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piro Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Gallows said: So wait... if people who glitch money instead of grinding for months and years to get a simple paintjob are bad What about people who pay real life money to skip that unbelievable grind? After all they doing what R* intended BUT by your own definition they still cheat by getting the stuff faster then a normal "honest" player. Is that ok with you? After all they are basically saying "I don't have time for this. I will pay you if you let me have it right away without the work. Just slip it under the table". Thats a bribe and thats also "not honest" by your own definition. And you don't know how they got that money right? They might be a criminal irl and they are using their dirty money! And what about people who allow to be bribed? What about a company thats not honest with YOU? is that ok? If they intentionally stretched game progression to the point that only a real no-life 14y old will do it - isn't that cheating as well? I mean It wasn't designed to be that way originally. Someone with a pure heart of gold made a fun mode/game so people can enjoy it, he worked rly hard BUT his boss said "we can squeeze more money from those stupid console peasants cause its suuuper easy to manipulate them. They will even defend us for it! Just change it so they have to grind 10000h instead of 10h and we will be rich!". That sounds honest to you? If so - wheres the line? How much greed there would have to be for you to say "thats enough! they are trying to use and manipulate me to squeeze some money from me" ? Thats a method used by real life scamers after all... Edited November 28, 2018 by Piro MaddenedGhost, kenmy13999 and Arkane 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Maddened_Ghost said: by your analogy, actors are also in that category as well If the actors lie and cheat to get a role they do not deserve - yes. Why is simple so hard If you’re just pretending to cheat - playing a role. Well - all is forgiven. Edited November 28, 2018 by Gallows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatin Since 87 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gallows said: What happens in the game is not real. Cheating is. It’s not hard. Really it’s not. LOL. So one action in a virtual world is ok, but another action in a virtual world isn’t? Logical. So who decides what is and isn’t real, you? Is there a list you’ve created you can send me, so I can be up to your virtual moral code? And again... ugh... glitching and cheating are 2 different things. If you can’t tell the difference in the 2, I find any future conversation to be pointless. kenmy13999 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenedGhost Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gallows said: If the actors lie and cheat to get a role they do not deserve - yes. Why is simple so hard If you’re just pretending to cheat - playing a role. Well - all is forgiven: LMAO are you trying to find a way out of this? here's what I was referring to "There is no evidence suggesting that people can adopt a different sent of Internal values when playing a game or any other activity." you mentioned this earlier remember? I guess simple really is that hard lol In video-games, do whatever you please as long as you don't affect my gameplay experience, this is my rule, I don't care what if you don't accept this, it's that simple, if me finding the incompetence of Rockstar offering me a way to get a hat for free is considered cheating to you, then too bad for you. Edited November 28, 2018 by Maddened_Ghost Hatin Since 87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said: LOL. So one action in a virtual world is ok, but another action in a virtual world isn’t? Logical. So who decides what is and isn’t real, you? Is there a list you’ve created you can send me, so I can be up to your virtual moral code? And again... ugh... glitching and cheating are 2 different things. If you can’t tell the difference in the 2, I find any future conversation to be pointless. Glitching is just used by people who exploit games to gain an advantage like other cheaters to make it seem like that. It may not be as bad as aim bots of mod menus - but as I said. I do not trust cheaters to control their cheating. And that’s all it boils down to really. Everything else is irrelevant. I do not trust cheaters to keep their cheating to a level where it does not ruin the game for honest players. Edited November 28, 2018 by Gallows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseltech20 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, McGhee said: Bought it on PS3, then used it as an excuse to buy a PS4/GTAV bundle pack, and lately bought a PS Pro, just because it allows HD streaming when using Remote Play (which I never do). Of course, I needed a digital version of GTAV for it, and the Ultimate Edition of RDR2. And the occasional appreciative shark card, for not needed currency, still money well spent (on the hindsight, when I set foot on New Hanover soil for the first time) Yeah I did the ps3/4 thing as well. Then I went from physical to digital. Wife an son copies. Sold those. Got wife a digital copy. I'm on my 4th PS4, 2 standard, 2 Pro. I always trade for the newer models. My original Pro was having an issue with the screen cutting out every so often. I sold it and tried to use a slim console. Didn't like it so I got another Pro. I bought a megaladon card once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatin Since 87 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Gallows said: Glitching is just used by people who exploit games to gain an advantage like other cheaters to make it seem like that. It may not be as bad as aim bots of mod menus - but as I said. I do not trust cheaters to control their cheating. Ok, well, you obviously want to relate 2 different things to make you feel better about your position, and you refuse to actually accept that they aren’t relatively close, so anything else is just a waste of time. Ill enjoy my money, you enjoy spending your time online wondering who’s glitching money and trying to report every person with a better horse. Enjoy GN 92, MaddenedGhost and Lonely-Martin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, dieseltech20 said: Yeah I did the ps3/4 thing as well. Then I went from physical to digital. Wife an son copies. Sold those. Got wife a digital copy. I'm on my 4th PS4, 2 standard, 2 Pro. I always trade for the newer models. My original Pro was having an issue with the screen cutting out every so often. I sold it and tried to use a slim console. Didn't like it so I got another Pro. I bought a megaladon card once. Rumor has it that a PS5 project is about to be rounded up late 2019, early 2020... Guess we can start saving up or try to find new excuses to buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theEwing1979 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I once spent a Saturday, a WHOLE Saturday, farming the sh*t out of a character swap glitch on GTA Online. It meant I was able to buy everything I wanted and I think I still have around $50m burning a hole in my pocket. To be honest it ruined the game a little for me, little left to play for and work towards and I vowed never to do it again. I suppose a lot depends on what 'stuff' there is to buy on RDR2 online. It's early days but right now I can't imagine I'll still be playing it in six months or a year. A lot needs to change to keep me interested. So far I've found it frustrating and boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenedGhost Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hatin Since 87 said: Ok, well, you obviously want to relate 2 different things to make you feel better about your position, and you refuse to actually accept that they aren’t relatively close, so anything else is just a waste of time. Ill enjoy my money, you enjoy spending your time online wondering who’s glitching money and trying to report every person with a better horse. Enjoy Oh nice, another feller joining the watch-list with me, park over here brother. With this being said though, if they do actually revise the prices and actually make the achievable by actually playing the game and not buying them with real money, then there will be no need for glitching - or ya know .. watchlists haha Edited November 28, 2018 by Maddened_Ghost Lonely-Martin and Hatin Since 87 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatin Since 87 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gallows said: Glitching is just used by people who exploit games to gain an advantage like other cheaters to make it seem like that. It may not be as bad as aim bots of mod menus - but as I said. I do not trust cheaters to control their cheating. And that’s all it boils down to really. Everything else is irrelevant. I do not trust cheaters to keep their cheating to a level where it does not ruin the game for honest players. Ok. Ugh. Stop dragging me back into this. Listen. You say simple isn’t that hard. You’re right. So let’s act like I’m explaining this to my kids, so I’ll be as simple as possible. Cheating=hacking/modding/changing the game in some way or another. Glitching= people playing the game, finding a way to get something from it, and using it. No changes to the game at all, just playing the game the exact same way anybody else has the ability to do. Get it? GN 92, Arkane, kenmy13999 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty_Guy Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Oh yeah. GTAO was alot better with glitched money. So why not in RDO. I was hoping that they would of balanced the economy this time since its a different time period. But sadly no. Hatin Since 87 and MaddenedGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Didn't glitch a single dollar in GTAO. I'm minded not to in RDO. I'll see what the game looks like once it's out of beta though. If the prices and payouts are similar to how they are now and an easy solo glitch comes along, f*ck it, I'll hit it for all its worth. I've no intention of starting another years long grind, if it gets me banned so be it. There's already a tedious gold nugget glitch of sorts out there. More, probably more lucrative ones will surely follow. Hatin Since 87 and RayD70 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebeldevil Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Absolutely not. I never modded money in GTA, and I don't intend to here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piro Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) Well looks like the guy skipped my post cause he didn't knew how to respond to my questions Not very polite of him to keep me hanging... look who's a "bad person" irl now... Edited November 28, 2018 by Piro kenmy13999 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GN 92 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Oh he mad bro Lonely-Martin and Hatin Since 87 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenedGhost Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Piro said: Well looks like the guy skipped my post cause he didn't knew how to respond to my question... not very polite of him to keep me hanging... Don't mind him, I think he's preparing that watch-list. Hatin Since 87 and GN 92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatin Since 87 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, GN 92 said: Oh he mad bro LMAO. Welcome to his watchlist. GN 92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGTKCole Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Smokewood said: OMG The only reason you guys think the prices are high is because you want all items and want them all right now!! lol just relax and play the damn game and you will earn enough to buy anything you want over time. I will not spend a single penny on microtransactions. I'll just play until I have want I want. Easy.... Exactly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Piro said: Well looks like the guy skipped my post cause he didn't knew how to respond to my question... not very polite of him to keep me hanging... Already answered your PM. I’ll repost our conversation here just because I don’t want you to lose any sleep over not getting quoted. Piro asked me in a PM “Why are you ignoring me” my answer. “ No, but it’s just pointless discussing analogies and how they apply or can be extrapolated to nonsense. It does not matter. It’s a Smoke screen. I agree that the world is not perfect, which is mainly caused by imperfect people, but to embrace imperfection because it’s easy... well it’s a long debate and I’m sure it could be interresting, but it’s but a distraction. I do not trust cheaters to keep their cheating to a level that will not ruin the gaming of honest players. That’s really the main point of my objection to cheats/glitches or whatever name we use.” All the fluffy talk, analogies and BS is just irrelevant when it all really boils down to the fact I do not trust cheaters to not eventually ruin the game for the rest of us. Edited November 28, 2018 by Gallows Smokewood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddenedGhost Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 But .. but ... you need to have some FAITH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallows Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, Maddened_Ghost said: But .. but ... you need to have some FAITH! That I can agree with. And I will try... I will try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piro Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Gallows said: Spoiler Already answered your PM. I’ll repost our conversation here just because I don’t want you to lose any sleep over not getting quoted. Piro asked me in a PM “Why are you ignoring me” my answer. “ No, but it’s just pointless discussing analogies and how they apply or can be extrapolated to nonsense. It does not matter. It’s a Smoke screen. I agree that the world is not perfect, which is mainly caused by imperfect people, but to embrace imperfection because it’s easy... well it’s a long debate and I’m sure it could be interresting, but it’s but a distraction. I do not trust cheaters to keep their cheating to a level that will not ruin the gaming of honest players. That’s really the main point of my objection to cheats/glitches or whatever name we use.” All the fluffy talk, analogies and BS is just irrelevant when it all really boils down to te fact I do not trust cheaters to not eventually ruin the game for the rest of us. So I asked 3 questions and you still didn't respond to them... those are simple questions after all. Whats the problem suddenly? also you skipped some parts of that PM...Wheres the part "Stop being triggered by not being quoted" ? Why remove that one part? Don't you want to show the rest of the group how mature you rly are mr "im a good honest person? Truth is you just got lost in your own logic and now you don't know how to respond. Edited November 28, 2018 by Piro kenmy13999 and MaddenedGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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