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The Holy Diver

The Red Dead Online B*tch & Moan Thread

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Coleco
12 hours ago, wehweh01 said:

Time for me to get this show on the road.

 

Rockstar is a bunch of poopy faces :r*:

 

Straight-up savage :lol:

 

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ALifeOfMisery
Posted (edited)

I don't really want to jump into or get involved in the bickering that's going on, other than to say that I strongly believe in the following sentiment.

14 hours ago, Happy Hunter said:

This is the b*tch and moan thread to be fair. It's sacred ground, and anyone bitching here - they should be able to.

It's been seen time and again over the years in the GTAO section B&M thread, where, from time to time, there has been b*tching about the b*tching, or the belittling and/or mocking of either other members B&M posts or other members themselves. It goes nowhere and rarely ends well.

 

All that ends up happening is that the mods/staff get involved, when I can only assume that they would rather not have to, and to be honest, it doesn't usually end well for the members who are engaging in the belittling and mocking of others. They, more often than not, end up on an all expenses paid holiday away from the forum, something I'd rather not see happen here, as there are only around 20-30 members regularly posting here as it is.

 

RDO is sh*t enough, there's plenty to moan about, without repeatedly going over the validity of other members frustrations. As HH said, the B&M thread should be sacred ground.

Edited by ALifeOfMisery

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Sammionna

Is anybody else struggling to get into Showdown matches? For three days now I've been getting stuck in black screens, sometimes its taken me 4-5 restarts before I can actually load into a match. Its pissing me off because Showdown is the only thing keeping me active on this game right now, fix this sh*t Rockstar.

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ALifeOfMisery
6 minutes ago, Sammionna said:

Is anybody else struggling to get into Showdown matches? For three days now I've been getting stuck in black screens,

Yes. I tried joining a Gun Rush Team match yesterday, to be honest I was trying to kill two birds with one stone by getting the Daily Challenge and a solo lobby at the same time. Finally got in a lobby on the 4th attempt.

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CMCSAVAGE
Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, BUT THE BENZ said:

gold store, as a courtesy to players? please, elaborate on that. they could have just SCRAPPED the whole idea of  gold, as a REAL COURTESY to players

 

Not much to elaborate on since it was a fairly simple point I was making. I'm saying if they had left the gold store out until the game was out of beta, people would've been complaining about that also because of the gold only and gold option to buy items from the catalog and there was no gold to buy.

 

Sure, they could've scrapped the idea, but it just would've been replaced with Horse Cards or some other sh*t. I wish the game was mtx free, but it's not the case. If I had a choice between the two evils, I'd take gold any day. At least we can earn it and anything that requires gold isn't outrageously overpriced. If they had gone the cash for cash route, you'd see overly inflated prices with no bang for your buck. It's sickening that you can spend $100 on a shark card and still couldn't buy the most expensive thing on GTAO.

 

With that being said, I don't like the way they implemented it and the value they put on it. Since we earn nuggets and fractions of a nugget, it should reflect that in store prices rather than bars. There's no rhyme or reason to the value they put on gold bars. A $950.00 horse can be bought for 38 gold bars, which puts the value at $25 a bar. A $4.75 pair of suspenders can be bought for 1 gold bar. So is a gold bar worth $25 or $4.75? Makes no  fkn sense. #R* Logic.

 

 

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DarkReign27
13 hours ago, BUT THE BENZ said:

^see, you're very quick to "offend" savage, and calling names...when has that ever helped your "case"?!

you just seem to be the kind of dude who NEEDS to be of a different opinion, and certainly THAT opinion is all righty right - while the rest is crazy "nitwits" without any knowledge.

 

gold store, as a courtesy to players? please, elaborate on that. they could have just SCRAPPED the whole idea of  gold, as a REAL COURTESY to players, but strauss wouldn't want that!

 In an unbalanced and unfinished game is a pratice that is possibly the worst part, they probably would have had less backlash although we see right through them now. Every time I think of a Beta having things to buy when it's not even finished is crazy as preordering something years in advance or even at all... "Subject to change" people need to realize you're not 100 percent sure what yer getting here and these early microtransactions skew the company priorities heavily. I really hope companies stop this practice but ya regulation may be only way...

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Hetraet
Posted (edited)

I'm happy with how the mtx currency (Gold bars) is completely separated from cash. This means that gambling would be legal if they do it right. What I don't like about it is that it makes the grind harder and cash more useless, like most of free to play mobile games. The option to bypass lvl locked or by cash obtainable items is a poor design choice included only to push us to buy mtx. They can be greedy but with limits, the way this economy works atm is just really bad. They just failed completely with the included mtx. My opinion is that cosmetic items only should be obtainable by gold, for pamphlets and horses etc. you should have to play to unlock and buy them by your hard earned cash. Their hunger for our wallets is just completely unacceptable

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CMCSAVAGE
59 minutes ago, Hetraet said:

I'm happy with how the mtx currency (Gold bars) is completely separated from cash. This means that gambling would be legal if they do it right. 

 

Gambling in a video game is legal, as long as there's no real life monetary gain, even if there's an option to buy in game chip/cash with real money.

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Hetraet
8 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

 

Gambling in a video game is legal, as long as there's no real life monetary gain, even if there's an option to buy in game chip/cash with real money.

I don't think so... You may be right cuz I know this one poker app where you can buy chips with real money. Idk why but in AAA game this size this would be a pretty controversial move. I think it's too risky for R* to monetize gambling with all the new loot box/ gambling laws in videogames 

16 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

 

Gambling in a video game is legal, as long as there's no real life monetary gain, even if there's an option to buy in game chip/cash with real money.

You're actually right... This is hilarious... The gambling law is that as long as you can't play with your real money it's not gambling...so publishers simply put chips to buy and it's magically ok. This still feels real shady 

Also found a thread on reddit discussing this

I still haven't made my mind up yet about this

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Jason
Posted (edited)
31 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

Gambling in a video game is legal, as long as there's no real life monetary gain, even if there's an option to buy in game chip/cash with real money.

Legal for now, there's a reason there's serious and widespread calls for lootboxes to be banned. This is also probably the reason why Rockstar never added gambling to GTAO because given how well known the series is if they added something resembling gambling into the game they are potentially walking into a whole world of trouble. The current definition of gambling in the eyes of the law never took into account what we say today in online gaming, some of the most popular games in the world are literally casinos for kids but get away with it because it's not technically gambling under the current laws.

 

In regards to opening the gold bar store during beta it's purely an ethical issue. It might be alright with some people but given that the game is officially in a testing phase it's definitely not unreasonable if people question them monetising the game while in beta.

 

1 hour ago, Hetraet said:

I'm happy with how the mtx currency (Gold bars) is completely separated from cash. This means that gambling would be legal if they do it right. What I don't like about it is that it makes the grind harder and cash more useless, like most of free to play mobile games. The option to bypass lvl locked or by cash obtainable items is a poor design choice included only to push us to buy mtx.

Agree with you on this pretty much entirely. Before release I was hoping that RDO would go the route of having a premium currency which you could use to certain cosmetics that could only be bought with gold. In theory this is great for allowing progression to go unharmed by monetisation, it means free content + good progression, win win. Rockstar's idiocy (or greed) is that they linked cash and gold, the two currencies are interchangable for almost of the stuff you buy purchase in the game, and because Rockstar's only form of progression in both GTAO and RDO is cash that creates the mess we see in both games. Or to put it another way, monetising cash in GTAO/RDO is like monetising loot drops in a game like Destiny/Division/Diablo, you're monetising the games main goal. It's piss poor design.

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CMCSAVAGE
1 minute ago, Hetraet said:

I don't think so... You may be right cuz I know this one poker app where you can buy chips with real money. Idk why but in AAA game this size this would be a pretty controversial move. I think it's too risky for R* to monetize gambling with all the new loot box/ gambling laws in videogames 

 

The Four Kings Casino And Slots (PS4/Sream) since 2015, before that Paradise Springs Casino (PS3 on Playstation Home). Same company, Digital Leisure, sells chips for cash.

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ThaBirdCoot
Posted (edited)

I'd advise to anybody not content with RDO right now; stop playing Online. Return to SP until they get their stuff right.. Or play another game. Less players online will always impact them more than any amount of complaining in here. There is hope left for this game's online part but it is about as unstable as Dutch's mind. You can give it time, but certainly don't expect miracles. The road ahead will be paved with many hurdles. Next update will surely determine the future of this title. If the spring one doesn't cut it then it might be DEAD literally

 

Edit: sorry for my bad english, I am a french drunkard

Edited by ThaBirdCoot

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Happy Hunter

Um, LeMat?

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Mad-Monkey_1st

The Gold store could and should have been left out till beta ended, We can still earn gold ingame to pay for stuff "Gold only" 

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ALifeOfMisery
Posted (edited)

Three bugs, one video.

 

Skin 2 American Bison Daily Challenge, kill 3, skin 3. None count. 

 

The pelts were 1* & 2*, all turned into 3* upon skinning.

 

Skinning the animals didn't give any meat or horns.

 

 

 

We agreed to save the thieves beforehand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by ALifeOfMisery

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YNNEL

They are going to wait till the last day of spring, arnt they? Lol

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Hetraet

R* should've implemented the challenges like we had in rdr 1 multiplayer... Daily challenges suck ass.

I also miss titles from rdr 1. 

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Xtf
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Hetraet said:

R* should've implemented the challenges like we had in rdr 1 multiplayer... Daily challenges suck ass.

I also miss titles from rdr 1. 

R* should have implemented a lot from rdr1.  You play the steaming mess of RDO now and you wonder if anyone on the team was actually familiar with rdr1's online at all.  Having said that, since it broke within 2 years of release and R* could never be arsed to fix it, maybe they're not.

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Coxbox
6 hours ago, Hetraet said:

R* should've implemented the challenges like we had in rdr 1 multiplayer... Daily challenges suck ass.

I also miss titles from rdr 1. 

They should of implemented lots of things from RDR1 such as PVP, it is so bad and unenjoyable. People running around with explosive ammo that is a one hit kill to my little toe. Spamming  Pistols and Automatic Shotguns, for their high rate of fire and camping in bushes because they have bulletproof abilities. Oh and canceling parleys when players don't want to fight.  

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tonko
On 5/11/2019 at 4:45 AM, ThaBirdCoot said:

I'd advise to anybody not content with RDO right now; stop playing Online. Return to SP until they get their stuff right.. Or play another game. Less players online will always impact them more than any amount of complaining in here. There is hope left for this game's online part but it is about as unstable as Dutch's mind. You can give it time, but certainly don't expect miracles. The road ahead will be paved with many hurdles. Next update will surely determine the future of this title. If the spring one doesn't cut it then it might be DEAD literally

 

Edit: sorry for my bad english, I am a french drunkard

Already ahead of you friend. Been playing RDR multiplayer on PS3 and let me just say, Mexico ambient music is freaking awesome. Those trumpets man, can't get enough.

10 hours ago, Coxbox said:

They should of implemented lots of things from RDR1 such as PVP, it is so bad and unenjoyable. People running around with explosive ammo that is a one hit kill to my little toe. Spamming  Pistols and Automatic Shotguns, for their high rate of fire and camping in bushes because they have bulletproof abilities. Oh and canceling parleys when players don't want to fight.  

Played Hold your Own in Chuparosa yesterday. What a rush!

 

I forgot about that feeling in RDO, haven't felt once while suffering through that godawful Showdown playlist.

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Chrismads

Been playing a little No Mans Sky lately (another first time dev game that's got more playthrough value than RDO)

and while playing around with its economy system, I started thinking about RDR's economy system, where animal parts from one end of the map, sold for more in the other end. Why isn't this in RDR2/O?

It's like R* is in reverse.

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Mad-Monkey_1st

Got to be honest, As much as i love this game ive gone back to story mode (3rd pass now) and loving it 

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Hetraet

I'm currently enjoying AC unity way more than RDR 2...don't judge me lmao

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Foxwolfe

Hey AC Unity is a great game imo, I picked it up for 15 bucks a year after release when they had patched pretty much all the major bugs, I had a great time and even picked up the DLC.

 

But as for RDO, yeah thinking back to some of the things from the first one I can't wrap my head around why they made the choice to move away from some of the systems in play in that game vs this one. Hell even taking things like the prison into account, why is that place not lawman populated and you get a max wanted level if you go there? No instead you can't even reach the place even though it's part of the map.

 

Just give me the damn spring update already so I can see what the hell you guys have been up to, it's hard not to feel like it'll just be disappointment given the near lack of communication.

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Jason
1 hour ago, Hetraet said:

I'm currently enjoying AC unity way more than RDR 2...don't judge me lmao

I played through Odyssey in January and it was honestly very refreshing lol. Without hesitation I'd say RDR2's SP is better but ACO was such a good refresher, good combat, super responsive, ezpz to pick up and play. Really turned me around on the AC franchise after years of them being meh to me.

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aFinn

Happens a lot lately, game won't let me fish in peace. A bandit ambush miles away makes me lose ability to fish and go into combat mode. Bah.

 

 

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Happy Hunter

I get really angry when it won't let me loot bodies. I hold Y, and he just sits there - won't loot, won't let me move, just sits there getting shot at.

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DarkReign27
4 hours ago, Hetraet said:

I'm currently enjoying AC unity way more than RDR 2...don't judge me lmao

I got this on xbone it was laggy but after playing it on Xbox one x it's very fun have to agree was the lagg issue with the low end hardware that was the problem and the coop definetly made me play it more still.

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Foxwolfe
1 hour ago, Happy Hunter said:

I get really angry when it won't let me loot bodies. I hold Y, and he just sits there - won't loot, won't let me move, just sits there getting shot at.

 

This is by far one of my biggest gripes with an in game bug atm, especially with the way I clear hideouts/ambushes to try and minimize corpse despawn, so fun standing around defenseless while countless baddies sling hot lead at you.

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ghostsoap01

I don't think I will ever truly love this game unless private sessions become a thing. Its just impossible to relax in the game-world with all these red-dots constantly spawning all over. You know, take walks in town, enter a busy town without b-lining for a store, hunting / fishing without constantly checking the minimap, not have to plan travel routes based around red-dot players on the map etc.

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