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O.Z

It annoys the hell out of me that John can't...

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Emmi

While it doesn't bother me too much, the other change they made to John once we take control of him is unexcusable!

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Cutter De Blanc
Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, SonOfLiberty said:

The ironic thing is if John could actually swim in RDR2 people would be complaining about how it completely screws up his backstory so it's a no win situation, but even in RDR it never bothered me he couldn't swim either. 

Not to beat a dead horse, but a winning situation would be one where we weren't forced to play as someone who can't swim at the end 

Edited by Cutter De Blanc

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Eugene H. Krabs

Is swimming really that important? Arthur runs out of stamina too quickly so I just never found a use for it and I never thought people would be so pissed at it being excluded in the end.

 

Canoes > swimming

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Ironside
Posted (edited)
46 minutes ago, Eugene H. Krabs said:

Is swimming really that important? Arthur runs out of stamina too quickly so I just never found a use for it and I never thought people would be so pissed at it being excluded in the end.

 

Canoes > swimming

Well, boats and canoes are not always that easy to find post story, at least that is my experience. And I would prefer if we as players where able to choose which protagonist we would like to play as after we finish the epilogue since from that point onward nothing is canonical to the story anyway. I personally vastly prefer Arthurs way of talking, walking and indeed swimming before Johns way of walking, talking and not swimming. 

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JupeShot92

Y'know what? It's not canon that John drowns to death in the first game even though that's literally the only thing that happens if you go in the water so I do feel it was unnecessary that to make it canon that John can't swim. As far as I remember there are no story moments in the first game where John tries to swim but can't, so it seems that they just made him unable to swim in RDR2 just for the sake of a callback gag. 

 

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ThroatSlasher2
On 7/14/2019 at 12:15 PM, Emmi said:

While it doesn't bother me too much, the other change they made to John once we take control of him is unexcusable!

Never pronounce the words or else this thread will get locked as well.

 

The Voldermort of RDR.

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Mysterious hero
On ‎7‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 4:18 PM, JupeShot92 said:

Y'know what? It's not canon that John drowns to death in the first game even though that's literally the only thing that happens if you go in the water so I do feel it was unnecessary that to make it canon that John can't swim. As far as I remember there are no story moments in the first game where John tries to swim but can't, so it seems that they just made him unable to swim in RDR2 just for the sake of a callback gag. 

 

It's has always been canon that John can't swim. In "We Shall Be Together in Paradise" John and Irish both admit they can't swim, it's literally the entire reason why they take the raft to Mexico instead of, ya know, swimming over there. Considering the amount of retcons and changes that the second game makes to the lore, I'm glad they kept this one detail.

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O.Z
4 hours ago, Mysterious hero said:

It's has always been canon that John can't swim. In "We Shall Be Together in Paradise" John and Irish both admit they can't swim, it's literally the entire reason why they take the raft to Mexico instead of, ya know, swimming over there. Considering the amount of retcons and changes that the second game makes to the lore, I'm glad they kept this one detail.

Unfortunately they didn’t keep this little detail regards to NPC of John Martson, who can swim. Epic fail

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JupeShot92

 

9 hours ago, Mysterious hero said:

It's has always been canon that John can't swim. In "We Shall Be Together in Paradise" John and Irish both admit they can't swim, it's literally the entire reason why they take the raft to Mexico instead of, ya know, swimming over there. Considering the amount of retcons and changes that the second game makes to the lore, I'm glad they kept this one detail.

I'm replaying the game at the moment and I just did that mission the other day and neither of them mentioned that they couldn't swim. Also I think whether you can swim or not it's still more convenient to take a raft. 

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Mysterious hero
4 hours ago, JupeShot92 said:

 

I'm replaying the game at the moment and I just did that mission the other day and neither of them mentioned that they couldn't swim. Also I think whether you can swim or not it's still more convenient to take a raft. 

It's a hard dialogue to get to activate. It usually gets cut off because of the gunfire. They say something along the lines of:

 

Irish: I can't swim.

John: Me neither, but considering how fast this current is, I don't think it would matter.

 

Try standing at the far end of the raft.

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JupeShot92
3 hours ago, Mysterious hero said:

It's a hard dialogue to get to activate. It usually gets cut off because of the gunfire. They say something along the lines of:

 

Irish: I can't swim.

John: Me neither, but considering how fast this current is, I don't think it would matter.

 

Try standing at the far end of the raft.

Fair enough

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UndeadPotat0

Bro can't draw for sh*t. 

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O.Z
21 hours ago, UndeadPotat0 said:

Bro can't draw for sh*t. 

I actually prefer John’s over Arthur’s. As the lack of drawing skills makes it a laugh

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UndeadPotat0
3 hours ago, O.Z said:

I actually prefer John’s over Arthur’s. As the lack of drawing skills makes it a laugh

In his defense I draw like a mentally stunted chipmunk. 

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