Nokingsman 21 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I realized as I played that Micah actively avoided going toe-to-toe with Arthur until the very end, and even then they were just evenly matched, which begs the question, how would that have gone had Arthur not been nearly dead from TB right there. Link to post Share on other sites
TheSantader25 7,153 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Arthur would remove that fat rat from the earth. Easily. No contest. 12 Link to post Share on other sites
Rykjeklut 790 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 God damnit. I opened this thread hoping to find some farfetched theory on how they are the same person, kinda like in the first Black Ops, but instead I got this. 34 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheSantader25 7,153 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Rykjeklut said: God damnit. I opened this thread hoping to find some farfetched theory on how they are the same person, kinda like in the first Black Ops, but instead I got this. Me too. I was prepared to see a thread similar to "Tenpenny is CJ's father". I actually prepared a good reply as well before entering. But I thought Arthur was actually CJ. It's a shame R* couldn't bring the same voice actor back though and had to use Steven Ogg 5 Link to post Share on other sites
nicktestbranch 2,326 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rykjeklut said: God damnit. I opened this thread hoping to find some farfetched theory on how they are the same person, kinda like in the first Black Ops, but instead I got this. This is where I come in. Secretly, you're playing as Dutch throughout the game and he mixes up Micah and Arthur as his voices of reason. He forgets they're the same person though. Even better, he never realizes there is no gang. It's all him robbing banks. Won't blame himself for mistakes, and personally tells himself he has a plan. Unfortunately he loses his marbles (Hosea) and that's when his thinking all goes downhill. Deep down, he wants to be like John. Once he confronts him for the last time, he realizes he can never be the man he imagines. Turns out the cliff is his best friend as he believes he's a bird at that moment. Whoops 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Darealbandicoot 5,936 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, Nokingsman said: I realized as I played that Micah actively avoided going toe-to-toe with Arthur until the very end, and even then they were just evenly matched, which begs the question, how would that have gone had Arthur not been nearly dead from TB right there. Considering that a skinny little prospector can keep up with your attacks and punch hard in Chapter 2, I'd say it would be mostly the same except Arthur shoots him. Link to post Share on other sites
Nokingsman 21 Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 Damn it, I realized that it corrected itself the topic was supposed to be Arthur Morgan versus Micah Bell... I accidentally mislead people, lol, sorry everyone. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
nicktestbranch 2,326 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Face it the theory is impossible to prove wrong now. Once a famous YouTuber or pseudo-gaming-journalist comes across this thread, the game will truly change. "Insane RDR2 theory will blow your mind - FACT" "You play as all characters in RDR2 with this simple trick - Housers hate them!" 4 Link to post Share on other sites
D T 3,137 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Imagine how hard it was for Houser to not rename Micah's character Leslie instead. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Oldsport 703 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 arthur would have wiped that mountain with micah, micah had no chance against a healthy boi 3 Link to post Share on other sites
StrawberryStew 2 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Took me a while at the end of the epilogue to realise Spoiler Micah was unkillable. He was fast as hell with his revolvers. Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonFolo 1,075 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Micah is so jealous of Arthur that he believes that he is the true loyal Arthur Morgan and that Arthur Morgan is actually Micah Bell. Jokes aside, yea Arthur woulda ez whooped him if he wasn't sick Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely-Martin 34,331 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 The only way Micah would have fought Arthur was knowing he had the ol' black lung. No brainer, a fit Arthur destroys him, Micah needed him to be weak to step up and fight. Had Arthur been fit, no doubting Micah would have killed him in his sleep or set him up long before it got physical. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gtaman_92 1,118 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) A healthy Arthur would of straight up killed him. Micah waited until he was weak to go toe to toe with him. Didnt he get his ass beat by Charles at the camp for running his mouth? Edited November 20, 2018 by Gtaman_92 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Rykjeklut 790 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Gtaman_92 said: A healthy Arthur would of straight up killed him. Micah waited until he was weak to go toe to toe with him. Didnt he get his ass beat by Charles at the camp for running his mouth? Charles is a big boi 1 Link to post Share on other sites
GroveStGTAV 1,302 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Lenny is CJ Link to post Share on other sites
Mach1bud 61,444 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I definitely thought you were gonna give the "Fight Club" theory. Would have been a cool take on the game if true tbh. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
nicktestbranch 2,326 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Mach1bud said: I definitely thought you were gonna give the "Fight Club" theory. Would have been a cool take on the game if true tbh. At that point I would have believed that Arthur was Lenny more than anything during that one mission. For a brief time, he saw reality while intoxicated Link to post Share on other sites
el capito 144 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 18 hours ago, Rykjeklut said: God damnit. I opened this thread hoping to find some farfetched theory on how they are the same person, kinda like in the first Black Ops, but instead I got this. Plotline of western movie Diablo, starring Scott Eastwood and Walton Goggins Link to post Share on other sites
nicktestbranch 2,326 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I know I'm beating this joke theory like a dead horse, but I have accepted it. Besides the gang missions and at the end, we don't see Micah and Arthur in the same place. And when they are, they are polar opposites. Like the angel and the devil on your shoulders. Spoiler Only when Dutch gets both his good and bad killed, he's basically neutered himself to a deranged f*ck. More on this fascinating theory later. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sr.Viktor 86 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 12:12 PM, TheSantader25 said: Me too. I was prepared to see a thread similar to "Tenpenny is CJ's father". I actually prepared a good reply as well before entering. Hide contents But I thought Arthur was actually CJ. It's a shame R* couldn't bring the same voice actor back though and had to use Steven Ogg Lenny is CJ's grand grand father. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
nicktestbranch 2,326 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I miss my grand great nephle Link to post Share on other sites
Nokingsman 21 Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 4:15 PM, Lonely-Martin said: The only way Micah would have fought Arthur was knowing he had the ol' black lung. No brainer, a fit Arthur destroys him, Micah needed him to be weak to step up and fight. Had Arthur been fit, no doubting Micah would have killed him in his sleep or set him up long before it got physical. I don't think Micah was capable enough to kill a sleeping Arthur, especially if he's on good terms with everyone, and the fact that there's always someone patrolling... I think he's also one of the first ones to go to sleep as well... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lonely-Martin 34,331 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Nokingsman said: I don't think Micah was capable enough to kill a sleeping Arthur, especially if he's on good terms with everyone, and the fact that there's always someone patrolling... I think he's also one of the first ones to go to sleep as well... So, up the river it is. But alas, more a figure of speech as I basically mean that Micah knows he'll lose, and if Arthur was fit, would look to take him out any other way than fight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Lock n' Stock 2,915 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 6:00 PM, Sr.Viktor said: Lenny is CJ's grand grand father. And Charles is Franklin's. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Oldsport 703 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, Lock n' Stock said: And Charles is Franklin's. no you are 200% wrong. are you not up to date with rockstars worlds? charles is actually lamars ancestor as lamar has apache native blood on him. its confirmed canon so youre welcome 5 Link to post Share on other sites
BoulderFaceplant 292 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 If you play well enough, you can actually say Arthur narrowly wins the fight with Micah. I like to think that even on his death bed, Arthur would win in a fight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gallows 972 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Oldsport said: no you are 200% wrong. are you not up to date with rockstars worlds? charles is actually lamars ancestor as lamar has apache native blood on him. its confirmed canon so youre welcome 200% - that’s almost so wrong that it’s right 😂 Link to post Share on other sites
Somegras 10 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Edgar Ross is Johns best friend, that’s why he visited him at the end. Dutch is the co-founder of the Pinkerton agency because he dislikes Arthur. The gang never fell. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nokingsman 21 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 1:25 PM, BoulderFaceplant said: If you play well enough, you can actually say Arthur narrowly wins the fight with Micah. I like to think that even on his death bed, Arthur would win in a fight. I know what you mean, I beat the hell outta Micah I that last bout, he didn't even land any punches besides the ones that are unblockable... So Micah's face was a purple and bloodied mess by the time Dutch showed up at the end. Link to post Share on other sites
