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RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2 - "Chronological" Mission Order - Input Welcome!

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Dan_1983

Not a bad point, but I doubt it.

 

The look on Jimmy's face when Arthur asks him should he have killed him tells you that he will keep his mouth shut. He looks terrified. 

 

Plus Arthur saved his life. Why would he squeal? He knows Arthur would hunt him down and kill him if he did.

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Question for you guys. In my latest order for Chapter 6 after I've done King's Son the next story mission I do is Delights Of Vn Horn. At the end of this Micah tells Arthur to go and help John out with the bridge i.e. Bridge To Nowhere. The thing is Bridge To Nowhere takes a couple of in game hours to unlock but I also think it's a bit weird to follow Micah back to camp and do Money Lending or something else. The only other thing I really have available at this point is The Veteran Part 2 which is kind of on the way back from King's Son to camp/Delights but is also directly on the way to Bridge To Nowhere.

 

So I'm wondering do you think it make sense for Arthur to kill some time by fishing with Hamish before going to help John with the Bridge? So like this:-

 

- King's Son
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- Delights Of Van Horn

- < The Veteran 2 >

- Bridge To Nowhere

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Psycho18
19 hours ago, jimmyoneshot said:

Hello Jesus. That's a good idea actually because that mission (Polite Society) is where we learn about the train in Pouring Forth Oil and Pouring Forth Oil unlocks Fisher Of Men which is where the Pinkertons first appear.

 

I like to imagine this isn't what happened though because saving Jimmy Brooks is one of Arthur's honorable memories later on so that would be kind of spoiled if he was the one who tips the Pinkertons off haha.

I never thought about Jimmy Brooks could be the one who tipped off the Pinkertons after Arthur saved him. I always thought Micah tipped off the local sheriff in Strawberry when Micah was in jail. Then the Local sheriff send a message to the Pinkertons. The Jimmy Brooks situation is a better idea.

 

I am back playing this game, needed some time away from this bugging game and play better new games. The 3rd person controls in RDR2  are way to bugging for me. I have started a new game and I am in chapter 2 again. Now, I am mostly playing RDR2 in 1st person mode. The 1st person controls is more smoother than the 3rd person controls. I only use 3rd person controls during some missions or free roam melee fighting.

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jimmyoneshot
8 minutes ago, Psycho18 said:

I never thought about Jimmy Brooks could be the one who tipped off the Pinkertons after Arthur saved him. I always thought Micah tipped off the local sheriff in Strawberry when Micah was in jail. Then the Local sheriff send a message to the Pinkertons. The Jimmy Brooks situation is a better idea.

 

I am back playing this game, needed some time away from this bugging game and play better new games. The 3rd person controls in RDR2  are way to bugging for me. I have started a new game and I am in chapter 2 again. Now, I am mostly playing RDR2 in 1st person mode. The 1st person controls is more smoother than the 3rd person controls. I only use 3rd person controls during some missions or free roam melee fighting.

Good to hear it. Have you got the new update today? Apparently we now have the weapon locker in story mode 😮

 

I'm about to check it out now to see what else is new.

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TheJesus1996

A lot of good ideas here but it's hard to keep on track lol, shame that the OP it's not active anymore. I'm planning on doing my 4th playthrough as soon as I finish Ghost of Tsushima. In the meantime I'm gonna try to take notes on all your ideas for missions order.

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MatthewJAli
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Ok so the latest update which dropped yesterday has introduced the weapons locker from RDO into single player for those who didn't know. Apparently some of the gang members change into pyjamas at night time also. The fence table at Emerald Ranch has also returned.. but other than that not a lot going on single player wise. Plus John still looks incredibly broken in the epilogue. 

Considering it's been 7 months of radio silence I can't pretend I'm not disappointed. 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, MatthewJAli said:

Ok so the latest update which dropped yesterday has introduced the weapons locker from RDO into single player for those who didn't know. Apparently some of the gang members change into pyjamas at night time also. The fence table at Emerald Ranch has also returned.. but other than that not a lot going on single player wise. Plus John still looks incredibly broken in the epilogue. 

Considering it's been 7 months of radio silence I can't pretend I'm not disappointed. 

Ye I agree. I tried it out earlier and even though I put all of my back and shoulder weapons in the locker, as soon as I started Female Suffrage (which I know usually automatically puts the Lancaster on Arthur's back) the Lancaster was suddenly on Arthur's back as usual. I'm wondering if similar things will happen in other missions.

 

I would've loved to be able to wash at the wash barrel in camp like we can in online and disable the auto-holstering of weapons when we are riding.

 

Still can't believe they can't give us the option to remove the off hand holster too. It is literally one button press in online. When the game came out there were thousands of people petitioning for it.

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MatthewJAli
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7 minutes ago, jimmyoneshot said:

Ye I agree. I tried it out earlier and even though I put all of my back and shoulder weapons in the locker, as soon as I started Female Suffrage (which I know usually automatically puts the Lancaster on Arthur's back) the Lancaster was suddenly on Arthur's back as usual. I'm wondering if similar things will happen in other missions.

 

I would've loved to be able to wash at the wash barrel in camp like we can in online and disable the auto-holstering of weapons when we are riding.

 

Still can't believe they can't give us the option to remove the off hand holster too. It is literally one button press in online. When the game came out there were thousands of people petitioning for it.

 

Agree with you mate.

They've applied so many fixes to online which is great because the game is finally playable again but this whole "We've listened to the community" sh*t they're spouting is nonsense. Washing at the wash barrel is a severely basic feature which should've been there from the beginning, the same goes for the off hand holster which doesn't even appear in most of the story cutscenes anyway! Like you said so many people have asked/petitioned for this but it's fallen on deaf ears. When the whole Arthur Marston complaints finally became news stories I thought R* would've taken notice and finally fixed John, but he's still exactly the same. It seems they're hell bent on pushing the online service to the detriment of the mode which 99% of players bought the game for in the first place. It's sad but I'm definitely going to think twice about giving Rockstar my money for their next title.

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Dan_1983

Anyone else find it funny the gang wear pyjamas at night? Also another small feature is John's tent is closed when he's asleep, where as it used to be open.

 

I'd love the ability to remove the offhand holster. I don't duel wield in game. Also the ability to choose what gender of horse you can buy should be added too.

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Mr. Ando
10 hours ago, MatthewJAli said:

Ok so the latest update which dropped yesterday has introduced the weapons locker from RDO into single player for those who didn't know. Apparently some of the gang members change into pyjamas at night time also. The fence table at Emerald Ranch has also returned.. but other than that not a lot going on single player wise. Plus John still looks incredibly broken in the epilogue. 

Considering it's been 7 months of radio silence I can't pretend I'm not disappointed. 

The fence table not being there made me so mad hahaha. I have an old safe in chapter 2, gonna check out the changes

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TheJesus1996

I was at Keane's Saloon and got one of those rare NPCs interactions, he warned me not to do business with Morris Peyton (Auction owner from "The Sheep and the Goats" mission) that he's a crook and not to be trust. A clearly hint that he rat us out with Cornwall.

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jimmyoneshot
2 hours ago, TheJesus1996 said:

I was at Keane's Saloon and got one of those rare NPCs interactions, he warned me not to do business with Morris Peyton (Auction owner from "The Sheep and the Goats" mission) that he's a crook and not to be trust. A clearly hint that he rat us out with Cornwall.

That's a great spot Jesus. I've never heard that dialogue before. That makes sense actually. The only problem is Cornwall would have to be in town at the time because the first time John and Arthur meet that Morris Peyton guy is when they actually deliver the sheep because remember they are pretending to be the ranch hands that they stole the sheep from. Although Morris Peyton could've seen John hanging around town maybe earlier.

 

Either way it deserves this video:-

 

 

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TheJesus1996

@jimmyoneshot or maybe it was just foreshadowing that its not smart to do business with him as seen in the mission he basically scammed Arthur and John lol. Either way after all this years I still find new things in this amazing game.

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jimmyoneshot
1 minute ago, TheJesus1996 said:

@jimmyoneshot or maybe it was just foreshadowing that its not smart to do business with him as seen in the mission he basically scammed Arthur and John lol. Either way after all this years I still find new things in this amazing game.

Ye same here. I remember I heard a line that the Doctor in Valentine is actually Jim Boy Calloway's cousin.

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TheJesus1996
3 minutes ago, jimmyoneshot said:

Ye same here. I remember I heard a line that the Doctor in Valentine is actually Jim Boy Calloway's cousin.

Never heard of it, that's so cool.

 

What's your latest chapter 2 list?

I'm planning on doing a new game soon.

 

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Dan_1983
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Do you actually ever get the money for the sheep? I know in Chapter 3, there's dialogue in camp with John saying he went to Valentine and collected and he left it by Arthur's tent, but does your money actually go up?

 

Speaking of robberies, I noticed in my latest playthrough that the prisoners who need help with their shackles can spawn in multiple places and give you different robbery tips depending on where they spawn.

 

For the first time in this playthrough I met a prisoner who spawned near Citadel Rock and he gave me a robbery tip about Chez Porter (Javier's home robbery).

 

I also got a tip about Rocky Seven up near where the widow lives.

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Mr. Ando

I got the dialogue of not getting involved with the auction with John

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jimmyoneshot
On 7/30/2020 at 12:48 AM, TheJesus1996 said:

Never heard of it, that's so cool.

 

What's your latest chapter 2 list?

I'm planning on doing a new game soon.

 

Sorry Jesus. I've not been on here for a couple of days. Here is my latest Chapter 2 list:-

 

- Americans At Rest
- Who Is Not Without Sin
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- First Shall Be The Last
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- Polite Society Valentine Style
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- Money Lending and Other Sins 1 - 3
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- Good Honest Snake Oil
- Paying A Social Call
- A Quiet Time
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- Blessed Are The Meek
- Exit Pursued By A Bruised Ego (Return with Hosea)
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- < Charles - Hunting >
- ( Sell Bison Pelt in Valentine )
- ( *Grimshaw approaches to tell you about Spines Of America )
- < Lenny - Five Finger Fillet >
- Spines of America (Return with Hosea)
- ( *Grimshaw approaches to tell you about We Loved Once and True )
- We Loved Once and True 1
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- We Loved Once and True 2 - 3
- ( Stay in hotel overnight )
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- Pouring Forth Oil 1 - 2
- American Pastoral Scene
- Pouring Forth Oil 3
- Fisher Of Men
- Pouring Forth Oil 4
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- Sheep and the Goats
- ( Camp out overnight )
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- Strange Kindness

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jimmyoneshot

Just noticed a strange bit of dialogue that I've never gotten before. I did every mission up to and including Bridge To Nowhere and the only one left was Sadie Adler Widow. I usually camp out overnight here and then return to camp the next morning to meet Cleet and Joe and then do Money Lending but I rode back this time to see if there was any difference meeting them for the first time at night.

 

When I got back Strauss wasn't in his usual position to start Money Lending and was instead standing by Pearson's table. I can't remember the exact words but he approached Arthur, asked if he had done those debts yet and Arthur said no after which Strauss said he was leaving. Arthur was nasty towards him basically saying good riddance and Strauss then jumped on his horse and left camp. I slept until noon the next day and all of a sudden Strauss was back in the usual money lending position and the mission could be started as normal 😂

 

Very strange.

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I've been testing this multiple times over the last few days and I'm convinced this is pretty much the ideal order for the end of Chapter 5/Chapter 6. It all just flows together so well for a few reasons. Here's some notes about it:-

  • Not sure if it is a bug but there is a weird thing that happens after Visiting Hours regarding your horses. If you don't sell/stable the horse that you picked up in Dear Uncle Tacitus or keep it and don't sell/stable your old one then when you get back from the prison island BOTH of your horses will be there waiting for you even if you hitched the one that you left in camp. For this reason it is best to sell/stable one of them before you do this mission and the most opportune time to do this is on the way to Visiting Hours. This however means that Arthur won't ride past Wisdom Of The Elders part 1 so I leave that for a little later.
  • After Just A Social Call Dutch and Micah ride away and say they will all meet at camp and Arthur is left facing the opposite way away from camp. When you get back to camp the next story mission is Rage Unleashed which is a night time mission and Dutch has also came up with a plan at the start of it. For this reason it seems best to ride to Willard's Rest for the first time to do the Widow Part 1 which would allow time to pass to night and would give Dutch time to come up with the plan.
  • After Rage Unleashed Arthur rides right past Wisdom of The Elders 1 on the way to Archaeology For Beginners so that is the perfect time to do this.
  • After Delights Of Van Horn has been done Micah says Arthur needs to go and help John (Bridge To Nowhere) and rides back to camp. At this point Bridge To Nowhere takes a couple of in game hours to unlock and following Micah right back to camp seems strange so something else should be done in the meantime. Widow Part 2 will be available now and is closest so it is a perfect time to do it. This also seems to fit in perfectly as a dinner/lunch/midday time mission (which will be about the time when Delights of Van Horn is finished) because Charlotte makes Arthur a meal during it and after he faints and wakes up she leaves him a letter to say she is going hunting which means there is likely still time left in the day.
  • Once Widow Part 2 is done Bridge To Nowhere should have unlocked. I previously tried doing Bridge To Nowhere at this point and then doing Veteran Part 2 on the way back to camp but the Veteran Part 2 isn't available after 6pm which had always passed by the time I got back from Bridge so it seems best to do Veteran 2 on the way to Bridge considering it is directly on the path there from Widow Part 2 anyway and then Bridge would become a late evening/night time mission which is fine.
  • After Bridge To Nowhere is done camping out before returning to camp allows you to meet Cleet and Joe who will now be at camp for the first time before you do Money Lending. Returning to camp in the night means they will be asleep.
  • The Veteran 3 is scripted to end at 8pm and Hamish gives Arthur a pelt at the end of this. The Trapper is nearby so it is best to go there and sell the pelt. Once this is done it should be close to 12 am and Wisdom Of The Elders 2 is just around the corner and is available between 12am and 6am so this is perfect.
  • The rest is pretty much self explanatory 

 

- Dear Uncle Tacitus

- Fleeting Joy

- Fork In The Road

- Icarus and Friends

- That's Murfree Country

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- ( Sell/stable horse from Dear Uncle Tacitus at Van Horn Stables or keep it and sell/stable your old one )

- Visiting Hours

- Just A Social Call

- < Widow of Willard's Rest 1 >
- < The Course of True Love 4 (Read Letter) >
- Rage Unleashed
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- < Wisdom of The Elders 1 >
- Archaeology For Beginners
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- < The Veteran 1 >
- Honor Amongst Thieves
- < Of Men and Angels >
- Goodbye Dear Friend

- (time seems to go overnight here until Arthur arrives at camp the next day)

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- Fine Art of Conversation
- ( Camp until morning )
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- < The Course of True Love 5 >
- Favored Sons
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- King's Son
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- Delights Of Van Horn

- < Widow of Willard's Rest 2 >

- < The Veteran 2 >

- Bridge To Nowhere

- ( Camp until morning )

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- ( Cleet and Joe appear in camp here )
- < Money Lending and Other Sins 6 >
- < Money Lending and Other Sins 6 - J John Weathers >
- < Money Lending and Other Sins 6 - Arthur Londonderry  >
- < Money Lending and Other Sins 7 >
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- < Do Not Seek Absolution 1 >

- < The Veteran 3 >

- ( Sell wolf pelt from The Veteran 3 at Trapper )

- < Wisdom of The Elders 2 >

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- < Do Not Seek Absolution 2 >

- < Wisdom of The Elders 3 - 4 >

- Mrs Sadie Adler Widow 1

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- Mrs Sadie Adler Widow 2

- < The Veteran 4 >

- ( Sell/stable your old horse at Van Horn Stables because you now have Buell )

- < Widow of Willard's Rest 3 >
- My Last Boy

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- Our Best Selves
- Red Dead Redemption

 

I'm gonna do a quick run through of the epilogue again now for fun and then I will post my full list of every chapter.

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