"Tryhards" in GTA Online

[andris9701]

Whats the definition of a "Tryhard" in GTAO? - I also accept creative definitions, surprise me.

In general, its trying hard.

What makes someone a "Tryhard" in GTAO? Whos considerend a "Tryhard" in GTAO?

What are the most common things "Tryhards" do in GTAO?

 

My inspiration behind this thread:

I met a so called "Tryhard" the other day, I guess?! I was flying my Akula in stealth mode (not for PvP reasons). I've noticed a fellow player quiet close to me, and heard a metalic sound and a bullet hitting the back of my Akula. I flew higher so he knows I'm not here to PvP, I decided to bring it back to the Hangar. As I was doing this, he decided it would be good to shot it a few more times until it starts smoking. I flew back to the hangar and decided to check on him. As I went closer he already knew that I'll try to PvP so he sit up, he got in his gamer pose, warmed his fingers and his flicks...long story short, we were PvPing, but I realised after a while that I'm only in 2v13 or so, but he already died like 20-30 times. As soon as I hit him with something that won't kill him one shot, he almost instantly chosen the easy way out. He spammed 3-4 rockets in my face within 1-2 sec. So I'm sitting here thinking, how on earth my shots that takes 3/4 of his HP does not count as kills. I asked him about his relationship with GTA.
He said stuffs like "I'm not a tryhard noob", "Get rekt", "Get pwnd son", "I'm smarter than you, so get a life", "Do you know how to EWO instantly, RPG spam? CEO pop?". I had to realise that he is way above me. He has a lot more knowledge to this game than I have, since I have no idea what those things are. I went online and did my research. I stepped into videos and guides about "How to be a tryhard in gta" bla bla...

 

So in summary, he was bragging about his knowledge, and how dumb I am for not knowing these things. When I confronted him about being a "tryhard", he referred me as a sore loser, basically. I told him that he is obviously a better player than me, since he is the one killing me and I'm having a really hard time killing him as he is always on the ground playing dead after I land a shot on him. I wanted to have a honest conversation with him, but it was quite hard so I left him alone. He said that he only shot my Akula once and he has the right to defend himself. I had to disagree with him on the fact that he only shot my Akula once, but I left him in the right, since it was pointless to "fight" with someone in his caliber. He then started lurking around in Ghost Organization killing a few of my friends and other ppl, he got bored of it and started making fun of the situation, I can respect that.

I can enjoy a good old on-land PvP, even a little bit of heavy-vehicle / air combat from time to time, but fighting someone with this playstyle is pointless.

The question is open, is he a so called "Tryhard", what is your opinion on people with this kind of playstyle?

[REXX]

Most try hards, try too hard. In fact, the effort they put into getting one kill makes me laugh. Most of them have a brain the size of a ball bearing and are usually kids or teens. Basically the typical people where if you went up to them in real life, they'd probably sh*t themselves.

 

They think they are superior when in fact, they are the complete opposite. They are the most hated players, and for good reason.

 

Last try hard I went up against a few months ago wasn't so smart at all. If he were so good, why didn't he know that I could still kill him in passive with the oldest trick in the book. As for Easy Way Outers, they are just as bad.

 

In my five years of playing, I can sum up tryhards into one word: Dickheads.

[StangOne50]

I think a tryhard is defined by his play style. His main goal is to be up on his opponent as per the in game score and he will abuse the game mechanics as much as possible to ensure this happens.

You can tell you are facing a tryhard if once he is up on you, you get a message which reads "Lzzzzz".

[AcidRain7744]

He sounds like a douche tryhard to me. Just fight me dumbass, don't EWO and ghost over and over.

[Jenkiiii]

The term "tryhard" is more complex than simply besting someone in a PvP battle, but exists in all walks of GTA life, like the guy in a heist who always runs ahead and kills everyone first (sometimes dies) in an attempt to get the best rating or, in my experience as a keen racer, players who practice tracks hours in advance, know every curb boost, shortcut, use mid-drive speed boosts at certain points, and even mute the party to concentrate in their zone instead of communicating and having fun. You're a good racer but  then take it to a different level to 'destroy' the opposition, is another way of putting it. Being a tryhard is great for that person, but it can be a bit boring for the people around them because of their relentless intensity to win at all costs.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Jenkiiii

[Dr.Rosenthal]

I think you’ve all summed it up. A tryhard takes the game way too seriously and uses any means necessary to ensure they’ll be one up because it’s very important to them to give an appearance of being good at the game. Why that’s so important, I don’t know.

 

”Any means necessary” often means using RPG for close quarters battles, Ghost Org, OTR, passive popping, BST, BP helmets and EWOing at even a sliver of health lost. It also often involves using OP memevehicles, or, if you’ve managed to beat them despite all of the above, warping to their facility to obliterate you.

 

The best way to deal with them is to not deal with them, or pretending to be innocent and sh*t at the game, then when they least expect it you silently go OTR or Ghost Org and shove a couple Mk2 missiles up their ass and then go passive. Though they sometimes EWO as soon as they hear a lock-on - so my personal favorite way of dealing with them is to go Ghost and then snipe them from a nearby rooftop.

 

Never let them fool you into their ”traps”. Be very patient and strike when they least expect it. That is, if you even want to deal with them. Or just kick them or find a better session.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Dr.Rosenthal

[Lonely-Martin]

48 minutes ago, Jenkiiii said:

The term "tryhard" is a more complex than simply besting someone in a PvP battle, but exists in all walks of GTA life, like the guy in a heist who always runs ahead and kills everyone first (sometimes dies) in an attempt to get the best rating or, in my experience as a keen racer, players who practice tracks hours in advance, know every curb boost, shortcut, use mid-drive speed boosts at certain points, and even mute the party to concentrate in their zone instead of communicating and having fun. You're a good racer but  then take it to a different level to 'destroy' the opposition, is another way of putting it. Being a tryhard is great for that person, but it can be a bit boring for the people around them because of their relentless intensity to win at all costs.

Definitely got a bit of that on me. Determined, I call it, lol.

 

Racing brings it out in me worst, I can be 'all elbows' if I get that rush of madness. And with heists, though I am chilled and like to let folk try/learn, there's times where I take full charge and barge right in too.

 

Having read other responses though, definitely a passive one. No silly combat outfits aside the best now and then on heists and combat/PvP here I do shy away from more and more. But certainly a competitive soul when on one.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Lonely-Martin
Wording.

[Big Molio]

They aren't hard to spot. Usually travelling in packs of 2 or 3, and will invariably be wearing the Tryhard Standard Uniform™ as below. Usually also sporting (the only time we can use this word) dark clothing, glitched missing limbs and white socks. 

 

You'll know them when you see them, wiggling around in the street, marksman sniping at everything and everyone, whilst loaded up on BST, killing themselves repeatedly in an endless frenzy of K/D preservation. 

 

I paraphrase Doctor Zaius when he read from the sacred scrolls.

 

"Beware the Tryhard, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among GTA players, he kills for sport or LOLZZ or K/D. Yea, he will murder his brother to pass his brother's K/D. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his lobby and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his passive mode Tryhard lair, for he is the harbinger of death"

 

Edited November 15, 2018 by Big Molio

[BOOGIEMAN219]

Tryhards generally attack other tryhards and anybody that gets near them. I would argue that you were attacked by a wana be tryhard troll. Im a tryhard basically but only fight other tryhards fighting average players is much boring and tryhards that do this are pathetic and generally scared to go up against other tryhards. I think it's the kids sending those pathetic messages I often send good game or similar but when you get those messages your dealing with a troll more so just ignore it and focus on killing them. Also heavy sniper with bst or fire rounds should one shot them.

 

I just want to say I was once you, getting killed, getting trolled, having a hard time and one day I popped first person and practiced using the marksman/heavy sniper against other tryhards and let me tell you I died a lot at first but it also helped me defend myself over time. I would honestly recommend turning off messages and mute them, then fight them a little bit every day, you will catch on fast and before you know it other tryhards will generally avoid you.

Edited November 15, 2018 by BOOGIEMAN219

[Biff73]

My point of view of tryhards is pretty straight foward,they try way too hard to get a kill,take any cheap shot they can & talk lots of crap about how great they are,in real life they are pathetic sh*ts that fail in life,no career,no money,no girlfriend & no balls to face reality

[Smokewood]

2 hours ago, andris9701 said:

Whats the definition of a "Tryhard" in GTAO? - I also accept creative definitions, surprise me.

In general, its trying hard.

What makes someone a "Tryhard" in GTAO? Whos considerend a "Tryhard" in GTAO?

What are the most common things "Tryhards" do in GTAO?

 

My inspiration behind this thread:

I met a so called "Tryhard" the other day, I guess?! I was flying my Akula in stealth mode (not for PvP reasons). I've noticed a fellow player quiet close to me, and heard a metalic sound and a bullet hitting the back of my Akula. I flew higher so he knows I'm not here to PvP, I decided to bring it back to the Hangar. As I was doing this, he decided it would be good to shot it a few more times until it starts smoking. I flew back to the hangar and decided to check on him. As I went closer he already knew that I'll try to PvP so he sit up, he got in his gamer pose, warmed his fingers and his flicks...long story short, we were PvPing, but I realised after a while that I'm only in 2v13 or so, but he already died like 20-30 times. As soon as I hit him with something that won't kill him one shot, he almost instantly chosen the easy way out. He spammed 3-4 rockets in my face within 1-2 sec. So I'm sitting here thinking, how on earth my shots that takes 3/4 of his HP does not count as kills. I asked him about his relationship with GTA.
He said stuffs like "I'm not a tryhard noob", "Get rekt", "Get pwnd son", "I'm smarter than you, so get a life", "Do you know how to EWO instantly, RPG spam? CEO pop?". I had to realise that he is way above me. He has a lot more knowledge to this game than I have, since I have no idea what those things are. I went online and did my research. I stepped into videos and guides about "How to be a tryhard in gta" bla bla...

 

So in summary, he was bragging about his knowledge, and how dumb I am for not knowing these things. When I confronted him about being a "tryhard", he referred me as a sore loser, basically. I told him that he is obviously a better player than me, since he is the one killing me and I'm having a really hard time killing him as he is always on the ground playing dead after I land a shot on him. I wanted to have a honest conversation with him, but it was quite hard so I left him alone. He said that he only shot my Akula once and he has the right to defend himself. I had to disagree with him on the fact that he only shot my Akula once, but I left him in the right, since it was pointless to "fight" with someone in his caliber. He then started lurking around in Ghost Organization killing a few of my friends and other ppl, he got bored of it and started making fun of the situation, I can respect that.

I can enjoy a good old on-land PvP, even a little bit of heavy-vehicle / air combat from time to time, but fighting someone with this playstyle is pointless.

The question is open, is he a so called "Tryhard", what is your opinion on people with this kind of playstyle?

That's not a tryhard, that's a loser who thinks exploiting the game systems is a feature.

[fatdog]

Tryhards are those who put kill score over actual fun.

 

[Action_Andy]

1 hour ago, Jenkiiii said:

The term "tryhard" is more complex than simply besting someone in a PvP battle, but exists in all walks of GTA life, like the guy in a heist who always runs ahead and kills everyone first (sometimes dies) in an attempt to get the best rating or, in my experience as a keen racer, players who practice tracks hours in advance, know every curb boost, shortcut, use mid-drive speed boosts at certain points, and even mute the party to concentrate in their zone instead of communicating and having fun. You're a good racer but  then take it to a different level to 'destroy' the opposition, is another way of putting it. Being a tryhard is great for that person, but it can be a bit boring for the people around them because of their relentless intensity to win at all costs.

I hate those barrier grinding, curb-burnout-boosting Revolter- and Sentineltryhards that are in every stunt race lobby as of late and ruin my easy Pariah-win. How low can you go ...!?

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

Tryhards are often misunderstood they give a shoulder too cry on and listen and read the other players problems, they also come too the rescue and eliminate the threat in the lobby from the griefer aka their slow cousin

[Big Molio]

3 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

...in my experience as a keen racer, players who practice tracks hours in advance, know every curb boost, shortcut, use mid-drive speed boosts at certain points, and even mute the party to concentrate in their zone instead of communicating and having fun. You're a good racer but  then take it to a different level to 'destroy' the opposition, is another way of putting it. Being a tryhard is great for that person, but it can be a bit boring for the people around them because of their relentless intensity to win at all costs.

That sounds like me to be honest. I am a nightmare at racing, and not because I do any of that noob-pitting nonsense, but because I get a bit aggressive and ultra-competitive. If anything makes me salty and rage quit, it’s racing, and it is usually because I am mad at myself.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

3 hours ago, BOOGIEMAN219 said:

wana be tryhard

Serious question, what's the difference between a wannabe tryhard and a real/true/clean/whatever one?

 

I mean, both are trying too hard to win at all costs, doesn't that make them the same thing? Or it's a matter of skill (if it can be called that) or attitude?

 

No hate or anything, I have seen this "hierarchy" of sorts being used by several YouTubers (mostly tryhards, go figure) to try to categorize tryhards for some reason (probably to discredit others I guess).

Edited November 15, 2018 by Voodoo-Hendrix
changed a word

[andris9701]

5 hours ago, REXX said:

Most try hards, try too hard. In fact, the effort they put into getting one kill makes me laugh. Most of them have a brain the size of a ball bearing and are usually kids or teens. Basically the typical people where if you went up to them in real life, they'd probably sh*t themselves.

 

They think they are superior when in fact, they are the complete opposite. They are the most hated players, and for good reason.

 

Last try hard I went up against a few months ago wasn't so smart at all. If he were so good, why didn't he know that I could still kill him in passive with the oldest trick in the book. As for Easy Way Outers, they are just as bad.

 

In my five years of playing, I can sum up tryhards into one word: Dickheads.

He sounded like a 16 year old teen in his "I'm better than you, and know everything" phase.
All tho, this does not mean that all of them are dicks in real life. They play these games to feel above everyone, since they can't in real life. Some of them will become really bad adults, no doubt on that, and some of them will grow out of this. I can't be harsh on some of them, they might have difficulties in their lives, and their little brain are not capable of dealing with it, or they might have bad influences, or they are just simply dicks. There are lot of variants.

 

4 hours ago, StangOne50 said:

I think a tryhard is defined by his play style. His main goal is to be up on his opponent as per the in game score and he will abuse the game mechanics as much as possible to ensure this happens.

This is so true in PvP, sadly. Agreed.

 

4 hours ago, Jenkiiii said:

The term "tryhard" is more complex than simply besting someone in a PvP battle, but exists in all walks of GTA life, like the guy in a heist who always runs ahead and kills everyone first (sometimes dies) in an attempt to get the best rating or, in my experience as a keen racer, players who practice tracks hours in advance, know every curb boost, shortcut, use mid-drive speed boosts at certain points, and even mute the party to concentrate in their zone instead of communicating and having fun. You're a good racer but  then take it to a different level to 'destroy' the opposition, is another way of putting it. Being a tryhard is great for that person, but it can be a bit boring for the people around them because of their relentless intensity to win at all costs.

Very interesting. Well said!

I really like how you gave examples in different scenarios. Hats off to you for this, really toughtful. I enjoyed reading this.:)

 

 

[Big Molio]

7 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

Serious question, what's the difference between a wannabe tryhard and a real/true/clean/whatever one?

 

I mean, both are trying too hard to win at all costs, doesn't that make them the same thing? Or it's a matter of skill (if it can be called that) or attitude?

 

No hate or anything, I have seen this "hierarchy" of sorts being used by several YouTubers (mostly tryhards, go figure) to try to categorize tryhards for some reason (probably to discredit others I guess).

I suppose there is a hierarchy when it comes to play style and the respect that generates. I’m not sure what the hierarchy is. Tryhards are near the bottom, but above Griefers, but neither are as low as Kickers.

Edited November 15, 2018 by Big Molio

[StangOne50]

7 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

Serious question, what's the difference between a wannabe tryhard and a real/true/clean/whatever one?

 

A real tryhard is actually pretty damn good at what they do.

The others just fake the funk. They rock the tryhard crew tags, wear the clothes but they still suck.

[andris9701]

5 hours ago, Dr.Rosenthal said:

using RPG for close quarters battles, Ghost Org, OTR, passive popping, BST, BP helmets and EWOing at even a sliver of health lost. It also often involves using OP memevehicles, or, if you’ve managed to beat them despite all of the above, warping to their facility to obliterate you.

5 hours ago, Dr.Rosenthal said:

The best way to deal with them is to not deal with them

5 hours ago, Dr.Rosenthal said:

Never let them fool you into their ”traps”. Be very patient and strike when they least expect it. That is, if you even want to deal with them. Or just kick them or find a better session.

This is a good starter pack list!

 

"The best way to deal with them is to not deal with them" - Wise. This is the best way, they usually make sure you don't win, so its a waste of time, at least for me, I don't want to chase a dead body (EWO) through the whole city.

 

Good advices!:)

[Big Molio]

1 minute ago, StangOne50 said:

A real tryhard is actually pretty damn good at what they do.

Yeah, in fairness the genuine, bona-fide K/D Tryhards are pretty niche players in terms of their goals and the way they will play. I often see them in hour long ground engagements with maybe just one or two other players (usually at the beach lol), not really bothering anybody else but just cultivating their K/D. You see them on the kill feed blowing themselves up, but their play isn’t whole scale destruction. They are pretty specific.

[andris9701]

4 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Racing brings it out in me worst, I can be 'all elbows' if I get that rush of madness.

Being competitive is not a bad thing anyways, we all have those moments:)

 

4 hours ago, Big Molio said:

"Beware the Tryhard, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among GTA players, he kills for sport or LOLZZ or K/D. Yea, he will murder his brother to pass his brother's K/D. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his lobby and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his passive mode Tryhard lair, for he is the harbinger of death"

True poetry. Thank you haha

[Guest]

Do we actually need more of these threads, developing in another pointless discussion on these type of players?

[Big Molio]

2 minutes ago, andris9701 said:

True poetry. Thank you haha

Don’t thank me, thank Doctor Zaius lol (actually it is Cornelius who reads it out)

 

[andris9701]

Just now, McGhee said:

Do we actually need more of these threads, developing in another pointless discussion on these type of players?

I'm sorry. I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss. Yeah it is a pointless thread, but I like to hear other people's toughts. And I got some really amazing comments so far.

4 hours ago, Smokewood said:

That's not a tryhard, that's a loser who thinks exploiting the game systems is a feature.

I get it. But in this community I often hear "Tryhard" when it comes to those stuffs. People have different opinions on "tryhards", and what defines someone a "tryhard", I enjoy reading through these comments, there are some pretty interesting ones.

[just do it bob1]

These topics always end well...

 

Seriously, do we need another topic on tryhards?

[Sanches]

Before GTAO, i used term "tryhard" to describe people in FPS who's picking a certaing player as a target and ready to waste as much time and resources as it needs to get their target, ignoring other players and their own team's interests.

[andris9701]

2 hours ago, Harbz said:

Tryhards are often misunderstood they give a shoulder too cry on and listen and read the other players problems, they also come too the rescue and eliminate the threat in the lobby from the griefer aka their slow cousin

Interesting point of view. So there are good Tryhards who are here to help, not to harm anyone, but what if a griefer is "trying hard"? (lets not get into this tho, lol)
Lets say there are good and bad "Tryhards" then!

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, andris9701 said:

I'm sorry. I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss. Yeah it is a pointless thread, but I like to hear other people's toughts. And I got some really amazing comments so far.

I get it. But in this community I often hear "Tryhard" when it comes to those stuffs. People have different opinions on "tryhards", and what defines someone a "tryhard", I enjoy reading through these comments, there are some pretty interesting ones.

 

Just browse the forums more and you’ll find tons of discussions and thoughts on the subject. 

[andris9701]

38 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

Yeah, in fairness the genuine, bona-fide K/D Tryhards are pretty niche players in terms of their goals and the way they will play. I often see them in hour long ground engagements with maybe just one or two other players (usually at the beach lol), not really bothering anybody else but just cultivating their K/D. You see them on the kill feed blowing themselves up, but their play isn’t whole scale destruction. They are pretty specific.

44 minutes ago, StangOne50 said:

A real tryhard is actually pretty damn good at what they do.

The others just fake the funk. They rock the tryhard crew tags, wear the clothes but they still suck.

Yeah, they are usually fairly good players too, when it comes to aiming (on PC). I just don't enjoy their playstyle.

17 minutes ago, Sanches said:

Before GTAO, i used term "tryhard" to describe people in FPS who's picking a certaing player as a target and ready to waste as much time and resources as it needs to get their target, ignoring other players and their own team's interests.

Yeah, true.

It is funny tho, how every game/genre of games' communities have their own words for players they hate the most.