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Journey_95

Vote for RDR2 in The Game Awards

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Paro93
6 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

GoW is the most compete game i have ever played

 

It nails the story, the graphics, the lore, the music, The gameplay is fun, responsive and sharp., The pacing is pinch perfect.  The level-design is well done as well.

 

No mtx, no dlc, no MP BS

 

And then people wonder why it won GOTY, lol 

Undoubtedly the best game experience i had this year, by a long margin. 

 

RDR2 is also an amazing experience. But GOW was simply better IMO.

The fact that GOW won the most important award, and is winning more awards overall so far, just shows the game is great and deserves the title of best game of the year. It's one of the very few games that could surpass RDR2. 

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Mostly_Red
1 minute ago, Paro93 said:

Undoubtedly the best game experience i had this year, by a long margin. 

 

RDR2 is also an amazing experience. But GOW was simply better IMO.

The fact that GOW won the most important award, and is winning more awards overall so far, just shows the game is great and deserves the title of best game of the year. It's one of the very few games that could surpass RDR2. 

 

I loved RDR 2, but GoW has those qualities  and it's also a gamey videogame that is fun to play. That's what sets them apart.

 

I love immersion and realism in games, but some people forget what games are all about: having fun. 

 

That's why it won. 

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Jedster
25 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

 

The movement is clunky, slow and sluggish. Good lord

 

ND games have fantastic animation but they're not painful to play like RDR 2

 

Are you high? 

 

 

 

RDR 2 does everything well, except the gameplay part. This is a common thought on the internet. 

 

Even for a famous game journalist like Jason

 

 

Nope, never had problem with controls or sluggish movement. 

 

GOW animations are so simple that it looks like they copy and paste it from previous games... 

 

Am I high? Well, not yet but soon enough I will be... :D

 

Never heard about this Jason of yours and internet is filled with bullsh*t... You should not believe everything you see on internet. 

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TheSantader25

You kids should start playing more videogames. GOW is good. But far from perfect. San Andreas remains the best game I've played. 

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Mostly_Red

It's closer to being perfect than RDR 2

 

That's for sure. And VGA's choice backs me up on this

 

GoW won. Just accept it

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TheSantader25
5 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

It's closer to being perfect than RDR 2

 

That's for sure. And VGA's choice backs me up on this

 

GoW won. Just accept it

RDR2 is closer to perfection. 

 

That's for sure. Metacritic scores back me up on this. 

 

RDR2 is better. Just accept it. 

 

Acts like he is a troll and is baiting

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Jedster
4 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

It's closer to being perfect than RDR 2

 

That's for sure. And VGA's choice backs me up on this

 

GoW won. Just accept it

Ohhh I accepted it, cos I don't care either way... I simply don't agree with your opinions, that is all... 

 

And btw, now I am high as a sky... :D

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Paro93
13 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

It's closer to being perfect than RDR 2

 

That's for sure. And VGA's choice backs me up on this

 

GoW won. Just accept it

He´s probably just trolling you. 

As i said before, this is the best tactics. 

https://imgur.com/Y3pYkwa

 

No need to reply every stupidity posted.

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GoodSense129
1 hour ago, Jedster said:

Nope, never had problem with controls or sluggish movement. 

 

GOW animations are so simple that it looks like they copy and paste it from previous games... 

 

Am I high? Well, not yet but soon enough I will be... :D

 

Never heard about this Jason of yours and internet is filled with bullsh*t... You should not believe everything you see on internet. 

He’s definitely one of those types that believes everything he sees on the internet  lol 

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PapasHota

Those awards dont mean a single sh*t, but the superior game won.

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GoodSense129
1 hour ago, PapasHota said:

Those awards dont mean a single sh*t, but the superior game won.

And I’ve still never played GOW and never will....

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Journey_95
On 12/11/2018 at 10:42 AM, Mostly_Red said:

GoW is better than any GOTY this gen except for BotW 

 

Better than Inquisition, Overwatch, Uncharted 4, TW3 

 

But somehow, you think that's unfair that one of the best games ever won 

 

Mind boggling 

No way is GoW better than TW3, lol. That game was a masterpiece and actually influenced the industry, you can even see the likes of Ubisoft chasing that TW3 hype.

 

GoW in comparison just didn't do much, good game but nothing groundbreaking. In fact it's the one that was influenced by The Last of us

On 12/11/2018 at 6:05 PM, Mostly_Red said:

The camera thing was new and bold. 

Not even TLOU did that. 

 

The camp? The npcs? The random stuff? All scripted 

 

Every Gamer found the the same people in the same places 

 

 

And again, The Order was developed by Ready at Dawn 

 

 

Who the f*ck cares about the camera sh*t, that's nothing interesting or bold. You act like it's some revolutionary thing lol, shows you already how overrated GoW, fans are grasping at straws

6 hours ago, Mostly_Red said:

GoW is the most compete game i have ever played

 

It nails the story, the graphics, the lore, the music, The gameplay is fun, responsive and sharp., The pacing is pinch perfect.  The level-design is well done as well.

 

No mtx, no dlc, no MP BS

 

And then people wonder why it won GOTY, lol 

Story was incomplete sequel bait, if Rockstar did anything like that people would be mad. But because it's a less popular and known developer it's somehow ok

12 hours ago, O.Z said:

Ffs, are you retarded or something or just trolling?!

RDR2 haters are delusional to say the least..is this user @woggleman's alt or what?

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Mostly_Red

", but the superior game won.

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TheSantader25

Breaking news:

 

RDR2 had a blast last night with 3 Awards and now it's a 9-9 tie with GOW. 

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Jabalous
30 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Breaking news:

 

RDR2 had a blast last night with 3 Awards and now it's a 9-9 tie with GOW. 

The most technologically advanced game, which is one of the many positives of Red Dead 2, certainly deserves more 2018 GOTY awards than any other title released this year. I've not played God Of War myself, but watching Youtube videos, it's another linearly-structured corridor game in a fantasy world that gives the developer the freedom to provide players with a set of button-mashing animations that make them feel overpowered and accomplished, which is nothing new in video games. Even the open world of Red Dead has more details in the environments, and of course nothing comes close to the beauty and believability of the dynamic lighting solution of Red Dead. 

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7 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

The most technologically advanced game, which is one of the many positives of Red Dead 2, certainly deserves more 2018 GOTY awards than any other title released this year. I've not played God Of War myself, but watching Youtube videos, it's another linearly-structured corridor game in a fantasy world that gives the developer the freedom to provide players with a set of button-mashing animations that make them feel overpowered and accomplished, which is nothing new in video games. Even the open world of Red Dead has more details in the environments, and of course nothing comes close to the beauty and believability of the dynamic lighting solution of Red Dead. 

Very well worded, I agree with you. RDR2 is more for the mature audience, weather as the GOW is more for your average college student! Button smashing in a scripted corridor type of gameplay sums up GOW franchise, it just all lame really... 

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Mostly_Red

The only award that matters is TGA. The official GOTY 

 

It was watched by 26M people 

 

Everyone was there. Phil Spencer, Shawn Layden, Reggie 

Even people from R*

 

They all saw who is the best 

 

Not awards from some godforsaken websites from Poland 

 

Nobody cares about those. So hold that L

 

 

 

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TheSantader25

Once again mixes up his own logic with the rest of the world... 

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SAS_Intruder
2 hours ago, Jabalous said:

The most technologically advanced game, which is one of the many positives of Red Dead 2, certainly deserves more 2018 GOTY awards than any other title released this year. I've not played God Of War myself, but watching Youtube videos, it's another linearly-structured corridor game in a fantasy world that gives the developer the freedom to provide players with a set of button-mashing animations that make them feel overpowered and accomplished, which is nothing new in video games. Even the open world of Red Dead has more details in the environments, and of course nothing comes close to the beauty and believability of the dynamic lighting solution of Red Dead. 

I haven't played GoW neither but you shouldn't judge game based on Youtube videos alone. RDR2 doesn't look well based on videos, it looks boring and tedious to play but it changes once you actually play it yourself.  Also, linear games don't automatically get lower score because they are not open world,  Last of Us is perfect example.  Not many will tell you that RDR2 is better than Last of Us, and I tend to agree.

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Mostly_Red
1 minute ago, SAS_Intruder said:

I haven't played GoW neither but you shouldn't judge game based on Youtube videos alone. RDR2 doesn't look well based on videos, it looks boring and tedious to play but it changes once you actually play it yourself.  Also, linear games don't automatically get lower score because they are not open world,  Last of Us is perfect example.  Not many will tell you that RDR2 is better than Last of Us, and I tend to agree.

 

Exactly 

 

Being an open-world doesn't mean its automatically better than a linear game 

 

And people thinking GoW is still a button mashing game like 10 years ago, is laughable 

 

They should put the difficulty on hard or above, try to button mash the game to see how it would turn out for them 

 

Some called gamers these days. They watch videos on YT and instantly think they know something about games 

 

What i say about RDR 2, good or bad, is based on my personal experience. 

Not on youtube videos or scores. 

 

Because i've played it. 

 

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Jedster
30 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

Try to set the difficulty to "hard" in GoW, mash buttons and see how it turns out for ya... 

 

Are so used to mash that X button to run in R*, and then they think its the same for other games, lol

 

Casual people that know sh*t about videogames, that play a mainstream title here and there, pretending they know anything about other games outside of their beloved R*

 

Someone tell them that GoW is no long the corridor game from 10 years ago. 

 

Or tell them to go play more games. 

 

I don't play on youtube. I actually play the f*cking games 

Btw, those site awards don't mean nothing

 

Websites from godforsaken places and awards voted by fans? 

 

Not reliable to me. 

 

GoW won the most important award. 

 

It was watch by 26M people 

You just have to mash the buttons longer, cos enemies are bigger axe sponges ...

 

Sure we are casuals but you are the one struggling with controls in RDR2, not enough button mashing I guess...

 

Yes it is corridor, the fact that you can go back and forth doesn't change that, most of the locations are used repeatedly too...

 

Either all awards matters or none of them, take a pick...

 

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Mostly_Red
8 minutes ago, Jedster said:

You just have to mash the buttons longer, cos enemies are bigger axe sponges ...

 

Sure we are casuals but you are the one struggling with controls in RDR2, not enough button mashing I guess...

 

Yes it is corridor, the fact that you can go back and forth doesn't change that, most of the locations are used repeatedly too...

 

Either all awards matters or none of them, take a pick...

 

No, you don't mash buttons 

 

If you played it you would know that. It requires strategy, finesse, and skill 

 

Like any other action game. 

 

And GoW is not corridors. Have you heard of metroidvania or Zelda style games? 

 

Guess not 

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Jabalous
36 minutes ago, SAS_Intruder said:

I haven't played GoW neither but you shouldn't judge game based on Youtube videos alone. RDR2 doesn't look well based on videos, it looks boring and tedious to play but it changes once you actually play it yourself.  Also, linear games don't automatically get lower score because they are not open world,  Last of Us is perfect example.  Not many will tell you that RDR2 is better than Last of Us, and I tend to agree.

I didn't say that linear games should get a lower score, and not even hinted at that. I said that GOW doesn't bring anything new to the table gameplay wise. The semi-open environments in the game are inspired by Uncharted 4, but both are still technically set in linear tunnels/corridors that eventually connect together in a set piece. Nothing is wrong with that, but I've seen some people using it as a strong point for GOW while in fact it's nothing new. There's nothing in the fantasy title that can be compared to the mind-boggling diversity and complexity of the ways that a player can interact with the world in Red Dead, in addition to how well-executed and finely tuned these interactions are animations and presentation wise. Red Dead has set new standards and risen the bar in terms of interactive and visually believable worlds. The seamlessly integrated dialogue system is a feature that hasn't been done to this level, if ever, in an open world. Being able to evade crimes and seamlessly lower tensions with the law using believable dialogue options, which result in unpredictable outcomes, is a new thing in the genre, and this is just one example. 

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9 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

I didn't say that linear games should get a lower score, and not even hinted at that. I said that GOW doesn't bring anything new to the table gameplay wise. The semi-open environments in the game are inspired by Uncharted 4, but both are still technically set in linear tunnels/corridors that eventually connect together in a set piece. Nothing is wrong with that, but I've seen some people using it as a strong point for GOW while in fact it's nothing new. There's nothing in the fantasy title that can be compared to the mind-boggling diversity and complexity of the ways that a player can interact with the world in Red Dead, in addition to how well-executed and finely tuned these interactions are animations and presentation wise. Red Dead has set new standards and risen the bar in terms of interactive and visually believable worlds. The seamlessly integrated dialogue system is a feature that hasn't been done to this level, if ever, in an open world. Being able to evade crimes and seamlessly lower tensions with the law using believable dialogue options is a new thing in open-world games, and this is just one example. 

I don’t think he can even comprehend what you are trying to say here. He is probably one of them guys who would prefer to watch a popcorn style easy to follow “Scary Movie” rather than a masterpiece like “The Hateful Eight”

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Jedster
3 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

No, you don't mash buttons 

 

If you played it you would know that. It requires strategy, finesse, and skill 

 

Like any other action game. 

 

And GoW is not corridors. Have you heard of metroidvania or Zelda style games? 

 

Guess not 

 

Yes you do...

 

I did played it and finished it, grinded mists for armor and upgrades... only thing it requires is mashing one combo over and over and over and over... oh I forgot over and over.

 

Some games does need strategy and skill from player but GoW is not one of them. Target audience of this re-booooooot is as wide as possible. My 7 y.o. brother finished it on hard with no trouble...

 

Gow is pieced together of multiple linear maps with shortcuts from the end to beginning aaaand portal section. if we at least got all the realms, but nooo... they need to keep something for sequels to sell to us.

 

 

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Mostly_Red
19 minutes ago, Jedster said:

 

Yes you do...

 

I did played it and finished it, grinded mists for armor and upgrades... only thing it requires is mashing one combo over and over and over and over... oh I forgot over and over.

 

Some games does need strategy and skill from player but GoW is not one of them. Target audience of this re-booooooot is as wide as possible. My 7 y.o. brother finished it on hard with no trouble...

 

Gow is pieced together of multiple linear maps with shortcuts from the end to beginning aaaand portal section. if we at least got all the realms, but nooo... they need to keep something for sequels to sell to us.

 

 

Because the mechanics and gameplay loop in RDR 2 are very well made and complex

 

 

You ride on horse for 10min, shoot some galeries of enemies, and that's it. 

 

Repeat 

 

The only thing that makes it hard is the awful aiming and overall movement. 

 

"Oh, but it’s not input-lag. It's, it’s.... immersion" 

 

 

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TheSantader25

In GOW you walk with Atreus. Kill a gallery of enemies by mashing buttons. Repeat. Only the previous GOWs did it better without forcing us to play GOW:TLOU edition. 

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SAS_Intruder
54 minutes ago, O.Z said:

I don’t think he can even comprehend what you are trying to say here. He is probably one of them guys who would prefer to watch a popcorn style easy to follow “Scary Movie” rather than a masterpiece like “The Hateful Eight”

I think you should stick to arguments about the game instead on focusing on me as a person. I don't appreciate it this way and I would even appreciate it less in face to face conversation.  

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Jabalous

The gameplay loop in Red Dead is indeed more complex. For the first time in crime open-world games, we're able to evade crimes and talk ourselves out of a town with the sheriff without shooting a gun. That's something other games from the same genre/theme will need to learn to do and improve on. Any action/adventure game can be reduced to carrying weapons and downing heaps of enemies, but the scenarios variety, presentation and technology is what set these games apart, and it's why Red Dead is the superior in this regard. 

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1 hour ago, Jabalous said:

I didn't say that linear games should get a lower score, and not even hinted at that. I said that GOW doesn't bring anything new to the table gameplay wise. The semi-open environments in the game are inspired by Uncharted 4, but both are still technically set in linear tunnels/corridors that eventually connect together in a set piece. Nothing is wrong with that, but I've seen some people using it as a strong point for GOW while in fact it's nothing new. There's nothing in the fantasy title that can be compared to the mind-boggling diversity and complexity of the ways that a player can interact with the world in Red Dead, in addition to how well-executed and finely tuned these interactions are animations and presentation wise. Red Dead has set new standards and risen the bar in terms of interactive and visually believable worlds. The seamlessly integrated dialogue system is a feature that hasn't been done to this level, if ever, in an open world. Being able to evade crimes and seamlessly lower tensions with the law using believable dialogue options, which result in unpredictable outcomes, is a new thing in the genre, and this is just one example. 

I don't think they set any new standards . Dialogue system is very limited and often conversation doesn't last more than 3 lines before it ends or shootout starts. Or sometimes conversation doesn't make sense at all. Wanted system is a joke as well as bounty and AI in Rockstar games is traditionally bad. You just take cover behind the corner and they all come to you, like in old WW2 movies. Good part of the map wasn't accessible until very end. Characters are not explored very well and missions were so lame. Riverboat mission and one where you take out Cornwell come to mind but chapter 5 was a joke as well. Everyting was way too easy and forgiving.Overall there was lack on control on player part to the point that it didn't feel like open world game, unless doing side quests. They wouldn't even let you zoom out of scoped rifle.  Also, constantly switching weapons or ammo as well as having wrong animations and stats for weapons is not good for immersion.  

 

So while I can list many positive things about the game I can easily find a bunch of things that should have been better.  It is a matter of personal preferences and there is no one true answer which game is the best , just different opinions.

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