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Journey_95

Vote for RDR2 in The Game Awards

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tommyboypwns
5 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

 

Replay value is overrated 

 

It's not about the time you play 

 

It's about the quality time that game gives you 

 

Journey lasts 2h and is one of the best games ever made. 

 

Scores are not facts, are opinions. 

 

But since you considered that as a fact, GoW won GOTY. So that's a fact too 

Lol this deflection is among the best Ive seen in awhile. RDR2’s metacritic score is an observable fact, it is not based on speculation or conjecture, it is THERE. You can disagree with the scores themselves just like I can disagree with the goty award. However, dont deflect from these

 

1. Sold more

2. Higher metacritic score 

3. Won more awards at the show itself

 

Until you can explain those, you dont have much to go on. 

 

“GOD OF WAR WON GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!”

 

”Replay value is overrated”

 

Im literally laughing 😂 

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TrueGamerOpinion
22 minutes ago, tommyboypwns said:

Alot of your arguments and talking points in here are based on conjecture.

 

”they didnt want to piss rockstar off thats why it got good reviews” -conjecture

 

RDR2 sold more, won more awards at the awards itself, and has a higher metacritic score. 

 

-these are all observable facts, not conjecture. Try explaining away those ones.

See the thing about that is, RDR2’s fundamental flaws can be fixed via patch. Something very similar happened with Witcher 3. People complained about the controls and they patched in an entirely different control scheme/movement system.

 

GOW’s flaws on the other hand, cant be fixed. Its replay value is so awesome, Im sure people will continue to play it online and have great experiences with friends....oh wait. Once and done and sold to Gamestop.

Any game these days can virtually patch anything, Even frame rate. What is the argument here exactly? Also, GOW winning GOTY was a huge upset even if the awards dont matter. 

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Mostly_Red
1 minute ago, tommyboypwns said:

Lol this deflection is among the best Ive seen in awhile. RDR2’s metacritic score is an observable fact, it is not based on speculation or conjecture, it is THERE. You can disagree with the scores themselves just like I can disagree with the goty award. However, dont deflect from these

 

1. Sold more

2. Higher metacritic score 

3. Won more awards at the show itself

 

Until you can explain those, you dont have much to go on. 

 

“GOD OF WAR WON GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!”

 

”Replay value is overrated”

 

Im literally laughing 😂 

Laughing at how ridiculous you are? 

 

Me too 

 

Ok. It has a higher score. Sure 

 

Sold more? What does that mean? CoD sells more than TLOU or GoW. Does it make it better? 

 

Explain me how GoW won then. It is as much of a fact as the scores of RDR 2

 

Keep crying. Love those tears 

 

 

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TrueGamerOpinion
3 minutes ago, tommyboypwns said:

Lol this deflection is among the best Ive seen in awhile. RDR2’s metacritic score is an observable fact, it is not based on speculation or conjecture, it is THERE. You can disagree with the scores themselves just like I can disagree with the goty award. However, dont deflect from these

 

1. Sold more

2. Higher metacritic score 

3. Won more awards at the show itself

 

Until you can explain those, you dont have much to go on. 

 

“GOD OF WAR WON GAME OF THE YEAR!!!!”

 

”Replay value is overrated”

 

Im literally laughing 😂 

I mean saying GOW on a GTA forum is the definitive GOTY and no arguments shall be made is one ignorant statement in itself ... but saying replay value is overrated is another retard statment that proves this gaming generation has low stndards and cant distinguish a much better product and package vs. a mildly ok one. Albeit both games were amazing in their own rights, Technically GOW cant be compared anyways because thats not open world its a pseudo one thats linear af compared to RDR2. 

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TheSantader25

Oh I miss the old days. A game like GOW would basically be considered "just good" in the sheer amount of masterpieces we had back in the day. Lack of good games has made people lower their standards. The bar has been lowered and it's only gonna get worst. 

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tommyboypwns
10 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

Laughing at how ridiculous you are? 

 

Me too 

 

Ok. It has a higher score. Sure 

 

Sold more? What does that mean? CoD sells more than TLOU or GoW. Does it make it better? 

 

Explain me how GoW won then. It is as much of a fact as the scores of RDR 2

 

Keep crying. Love those tears 

 

 

The only tears, are my tears of laughter. You seem to be struggling with the above points, and its very self evident when considering the fact youve been living in this thread for days. I smell insecurity in your struggles to defend GOW. If it was a clear cut case you wouldnt be in here as much as you are. Keep struggling 😆 

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Mostly_Red
2 minutes ago, TrueGamerOpinion said:

I mean saying GOW on a GTA forum is the definitive GOTY and no arguments shall be made is one ignorant statement in itself ... but saying replay value is overrated is another retard statment that proves this gaming generation has low stndards and cant distinguish a much better product and package vs. a mildly ok one. Albeit both games were amazing in their own rights, Technically GOW cant be compared anyways because thats not open world its a pseudo one thats linear af compared to RDR2. 

 

You can say that RDR 2 has a better and sold more. Are those your arguments? LOOOOOOL

 

But when someone says GoW won GOTY, you just cry. 

 

"oh my god, mama R* didn't win, its all rigged, buahhhh" 

 

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TrueGamerOpinion
Just now, TheSantader25 said:

Oh I miss the old days. A game like GOW would basically be forgotten in the sheer amount of masterpieces we had back in the day. Lack of good games has made people lower their standards. The bar has been lowered and it's only gonna get worst. 

Well every GOW so far (Except the hand-held porta) have always been recognized as GOTY but peoples stabdards are incredibly low and so is the creativity devs have had as of late. No new IPs at all this generation except a smal few have proven to be worth praising. Also, f*ck Horizon Zero Dawn that was the epitome of generic. 

2 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

 

You can say that RDR 2 has a better and sold more. Are those your arguments? LOOOOOOL

 

But when someone says GoW won GOTY, you just cry. 

 

"oh my god, mama R* didn't win, its all rigged, buahhhh" 

 

92a.jpg

 

1. Your reply made no sense at all.

2. Get this weeb trash out of here, its bad enough i have to stare at your Nier profile pic. Go back to 4chan.

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Mostly_Red

"No new IPs at all this generation" 

 

Talks about RDR 2 lol 

 

This is too good 

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TrueGamerOpinion
Just now, Mostly_Red said:

"No new IPs at all this generation" 

 

Talks about RDR 2 lol 

 

This is too good 

>Proves my point indirectly that society standards are low.

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TheSantader25

Come on guys we don't want this thread locked. At least not until we know which game won more awards. 

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Mostly_Red
1 minute ago, TheSantader25 said:

Come on guys we don't want this thread locked. At least not until we know which game won more awards. 

I didn't start it 

 

Until now it was civilized, despite having different opinions 

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Jedster

Wow, this is hilarious... People arguing about awards based on opinions of some no name critiques, who the hell even gives a fork about some stupid useless awards? I don't really give a Sh*t who won... I played GoW and enjoyed it, I played RDR2 and enjoyed it, nothing else matters to me and it shouldn't to everyone else. To each their own and arguing about things like opinions is plain dumb...

 

5 minutes ago, TrueGamerOpinion said:

Also, f*ck Horizon Zero Dawn that was the epitome of generic. 

IMO there was nothing generic about it, story was original and mysteriously interesting, setting and combat engaging...  

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TheSantader25
4 minutes ago, Jedster said:

Wow, this is hilarious... People arguing about awards based on opinions of some no name critiques, who the hell even gives a fork about some stupid useless awards? 

 

IMO there was nothing generic about it, story was original and mysteriously interesting, setting and combat engaging...  

Unfortunately some people do care about awards. 

 

I liked Horizon. The World was fresh and well crafted and the combat was pretty decent but the Story was a bit lacking IMO. I didn't like Aloy tbh. 

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Mostly_Red
4 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Unfortunately some people do care about awards. 

 

I liked Horizon. The World was fresh and well crafted and the combat was pretty decent but the Story was a bit lacking IMO. I didn't like Aloy tbh. 

You do too 

 

I liked Horizon 

 

Great world and combat 

10 minutes ago, Jedster said:

Wow, this is hilarious... People arguing about awards based on opinions of some no name critiques, who the hell even gives a fork about some stupid useless awards? I don't really give a Sh*t who won... I played GoW and enjoyed it, I played RDR2 and enjoyed it, nothing else matters to me and it shouldn't to everyone else. To each their own and arguing about things like opinions is plain dumb...

 

IMO there was nothing generic about it, story was original and mysteriously interesting, setting and combat engaging...  

Best opinion yet 

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TheSantader25
1 minute ago, Mostly_Red said:

You do too 

Tbh I did until this year. But after this year's GOTY I no longer do. TGA lost my respect. 

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Mostly_Red
4 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Tbh I did until this year. But after this year's GOTY I no longer do. TGA lost my respect. 

Why? Because they choose an equally fantastic game?

 

What if RDR 2 won? Would they be great again? Ffs 

 

Was it better in 2016 or 2014?

 

 

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TheSantader25
1 minute ago, Mostly_Red said:

Why? Because they choose an equally fantastic game?

 

What if RDR 2 won? Would they be great again? Ffs 

 

Was it better in 2016 or 2014?

 

 

I respect the choices in those years more. They sort of made sense. 

 

Yep. Exactly because RDR2 didn't win. But I still agreed with the winners in many other categories but I won't take them seriously anymore. Just a fun show to get the industry together. Geoff Keighley though still has my respect because I really love how hard he works for the video game industry to be as relevant as movies. 

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Mostly_Red
2 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

I respect the choices in those years more. They sort of made sense. 

 

Yep. Exactly because RDR2 didn't win. But I still agreed with the winners in many other categories but I won't take them seriously anymore. Just a fun show to get the industry together. Geoff Keighley though still has my respect because I really love how hard he works for the video game industry to be as relevant as movies. 

GoW is better than any GOTY this gen except for BotW 

 

Better than Inquisition, Overwatch, Uncharted 4, TW3 

 

But somehow, you think that's unfair that one of the best games ever won 

 

Mind boggling 

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TheSantader25
2 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

GoW is better than any GOTY this gen except for BotW 

 

Better than Inquisition, Overwatch, Uncharted 4, TW3 

 

But somehow, you think that's unfair that one of the best games ever won 

 

Mind boggling 

Subjective Opinion. 

 

RDR2, TW3, Breath of the wild are the better games of this generation and top 3 IMO. GOW is next. 

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Jedster
23 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Unfortunately some people do care about awards. 

 

I liked Horizon. The World was fresh and well crafted and the combat was pretty decent but the Story was a bit lacking IMO. I didn't like Aloy tbh. 

Yes, I get why devs and studios care, but why gamers? There is literally nothing for gamers out of it... just making waves through the whole community and in the end it's still just a bunch of opinions... Strange times we live in, in deed.

 

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TheSantader25
7 minutes ago, Jedster said:

Yes, I get why devs and studios care, but why gamers? There is literally nothing for gamers out of it... just making waves through the whole community and in the end it's still just a bunch of opinions... Strange times we live in, in deed.

 

Some people care because devs care because awards like this may(or not. Who knows) change the way their favorite dev looks at video games. Especially devs like R* with huge egos who expect winning awards like this. Some are afraid they may change their philosophy so that they can appeal to the masses. 

 

Some fans love their favorite game and devs to be praised and awarded for the hard work. Because good results deserve awards. 

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Mostly_Red
9 minutes ago, Jedster said:

Yes, I get why devs and studios care, but why gamers? There is literally nothing for gamers out of it... just making waves through the whole community and in the end it's still just a bunch of opinions... Strange times we live in, in deed.

 

 

A game won't be better than the other just because it won more awards 

 

Why are people so upset with this? 

 

My goty from 2017 wasnt even nominated. Didn’t give a f*ck 

 

What's annoying is people trying to take anything away from GoW, just because RDR 2 didn't win. 

 

 

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Jedster
17 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Some people care because devs care because awards like this may(or not. Who knows) change the way their favorite dev looks at video games. Especially devs like R* with huge egos who expect winning awards like this. Some are afraid they may change their philosophy so that they can appeal to the masses. 

 

Some fans love their favorite game and devs to be praised and awarded for the hard work. Because good results deserve awards. 

Yea well, that kinda makes sense... but I'd say that great games and devs deserve appreciation rather than awards, and I think R*, as well as Santa Monica studios got a lot of appreciation according to sales records of both games. As in any entertainment business, there is nothing more important to the studios than money, not even players opinions or awards. That is their philosophy and that's never going to change, no matter how many awards... but that is my point of view, maybe I am just wrong... ;)

 

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Mostly_Red
1 minute ago, Jedster said:

Yea well, that kinda makes sense... but I'd say that great games and devs deserve appreciation rather than awards, and I think R*, as well as Santa Monica studios got a lot of appreciation according to sales records of both games. As in any entertainment business, there is nothing more important to the studios than money, not even players opinions or awards. That is their philosophy and that never going to change no matter how many awards... but that is my point of view, maybe I am just wrong... ;)

 

That's true 

 

Look at CoD 

 

They always sell like 20M every year 

 

They couldn't care less about awards or scores 

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TheSantader25
14 minutes ago, Jedster said:

Yea well, that kinda makes sense... but I'd say that great games and devs deserve appreciation rather than awards, and I think R*, as well as Santa Monica studios got a lot of appreciation according to sales records of both games. As in any entertainment business, there is nothing more important to the studios than money, not even players opinions or awards. That is their philosophy and that's never going to change, no matter how many awards... but that is my point of view, maybe I am just wrong... ;)

 

Yeah but looking at R*, They are really serious when it comes to criticism. Look at their games. With each game they tried to fix the criticism of the previous one. With V they tried to bring the missing SA features back and with RDR2 they tried to fix V's problems regarding story and physics. That's why I'm afraid some criticism towards RDR2's features that aren't broken may result in R* fixing things that aren't broken. 

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1 hour ago, Mostly_Red said:

 

Replay value is overrated 

 

It's not about the time you play 

 

It's about the quality time that game gives you 

 

Journey lasts 2h and is one of the best games ever made. 

 

Scores are not facts, are opinions. 

 

But since you considered that as a fact, GoW won GOTY. So that's a fact too 

Hehe... 

 

I finished the story in RDR2 in about 58 hours, since then I have racked up another 70+ hours. That’s what I like about Rockstar games, their replay value is second to none. 

 

I always enjoy roaming around more than the actual story itself. Nothing better than going into a saloon and blasting everyone in Tarantino esque style with a shotgun - amazing!!

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Mostly_Red
4 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Yeah but looking at R*, They are really serious when it comes to criticism. Look at their games. With each game they tried to fix the criticism of the previous one. With V they tried to bring the missing SA features back and with RDR2 they tried to fix V's problems regarding story and physics. That's why I'm afraid some criticism towards RDR2's features that aren't broken may result in R* fixing things that aren't broken. 

Hope they fix the controls and aiming next time 

 

Which is the main complaint about the game 

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tommyboypwns
9 minutes ago, Mostly_Red said:

Hope they fix the controls and aiming next time 

 

Which is the main complaint about the game 

Can be fixed via patch. People forget this happened to Witcher 3 (albeit on a smaller scale), and CDPR responded with a patch that added in an entirely different movement system that one can toggle on and off. Thats the thing about this game, its biggest issue can be fixed via update. Now lets see if they do it.

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Dbzk1999
2 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

Oh I miss the old days. A game like GOW would basically be considered "just good" in the sheer amount of masterpieces we had back in the day. Lack of good games has made people lower their standards. The bar has been lowered and it's only gonna get worst. 

Uh, dude, you are aware that the first two god of war games in particular were considered masterpieces right? Seriously, cmon now. 

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