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So the cars, bikes,motorcycles is coming?


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1 minute ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

You couldn't fly a hover bike in GTA V SP, yet the Oppressor MK2 is still, unfortunately, a thing in GTAO.

Perhaps. There’s simply no foundation for it is what I mean to say. Cars were intended to be used by the player in the original Red Dead. When I got the game so many years ago and looked into the manual, there were actually instructions on how to drive it. Of course, operable automobiles were taken out of the game. 

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I’ll just wait and see. If sh*t becomes too stinky, I’ll just stay away from their micro transactions completely, even for things I like and only play with friends with similar interrest. 

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I think I have said it three times at least now but as long as cars are balanced and slower than Horses they will never be the best item. They will be a trophy and nothing else, hell they could even spawn an entire subculture in the game.

They will be slow and cumbersome, terrible off-road and have no agility. Does that really sound like something that will upset the balance of the game? Or would a Horseman decimate? Imagine XxXY0LOBigDickXxX trying to keep with his hyperactive friends in a car like I described.

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^^ Exactly--some of those tight, winding mountain passes especially are tough enough for a horse.

 

A motorcycle could actually be the most threatening vehicle in the game in terms of potential maneuverability and speed (knowing Rockstar's bad habit of embellishing DLC content).

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It's important to note that the Companion app has no references to a "Vehicle" class whatsoever. Just horses/carriages. So any "vehicles" that may be added will be nothing more than a horseless carriage...which is exactly how vehicles used to work, so don't expect anything crazy (if anything at all).

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I think we will get a bicycles and tandems at some point. 

A car? maybe couple years later... after aliens vs cowboys / undead nightmare dlc

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It will be a thing ,if Red Dead Online would be high budget online mode (like gta online) which is not - there is 80 percent less content end effort from devs than in gta. Why they add some Scifi non existent sh*t like jetpacks and flying cars in gta, and not adding actually existing in 19 century cars and motorcycles? well cause no effort

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On 11/10/2018 at 9:51 AM, GTA-Biker said:

I doubt we'll see any cars and motorcycles in this game.While early cars and motorcycles did exist back in the 1890s,they were rare (probably even in the cities,and especially in the rural areas of the wild West).There are no cars and motorcycles in Saint Denis which is the closest thing this game has to a big modern city,and even in Red Dead Redemption 1 set in 1910s cars were very rare,so I think it's unlikely.

I myself wouldn't mind to see something like one or two Ford Quadricycle cars driving through Saint Denis or even one in Blackwater,but having dozens of players driving around in their own cars would be weird for the western setting.The best thing I could think of to please both the people who want cars and those who want realism would be to put a one or two cars owned by NPCs in more modern towns with paved streets,and allow players to steal and drive them,but make it that there could be only three cars spawned on the map at the same time,so if players have three of them no more would spawn until one despawns.

Because of the way I play RDO, I don't really care one way or the other...BUT, if cars/vehicles are to be allowed, it would make sense that they would be extremely scarce. To ensure that, 10-15k gold would be the price.

 

Rockstar would like that because more players would buy their gold while, on the other hand, even more gold player glitches would appear.

 

Question: And, I know many of you have seen it--what exactly is that crashed flying thing/vehicle in the desert?

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36 minutes ago, netnow66 said:

Question: And, I know many of you have seen it--what exactly is that crashed flying thing/vehicle in the desert?

 

RDR1 story mode had an episode with that same glider. That was supposed to be the first flight but this is a prequel and there aren't any areas in that vicinity high enough to launch it so who knows.  Probably put in there by someone who didn't know what they were doing.

 

As for motorcycles, apparently the first production motorcycle in America was in 1898 so it could work LINK

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1 hour ago, 1898 said:

As for motorcycles, apparently the first production motorcycle in America was in 1898 so it could work LINK

 

Even without it being historically accurate it wouldn't stop rockstar adding them if they wanted to. Just look at all the junk in GTA that doesn't fit and has completely ruined the game.

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Motor vehicles will either be so over powered horses will be obsolete or they will be so disappointing no one would dare be caught dead in one.  I could see bicycles just for a laugh, but everything else...nah.  I still find it hard to believe we have not been given full on orgeon trail covered wagons with the finest pedgrees of oxen to move our goods and moonshine.  I think we are more likely to get some flying glider or hot air ballon venders in the major towns.  Bleeding heart Harriet could do something useful and change us into eagles, owls etc.  I could foresee miniature cars, boats, or planes based on the story mode dude with the robot.  All would be welcome at this point, f the realism and muh immersion.  Lets have fun.  Just dont put a flying bike that any child can purchase and defeat months or years of practice fighting said childs and we will be cool.

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8 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

Just dont put a flying bike that any child can purchase and defeat months or years of practice fighting said childs and we will be cool.

 

The game already has explosive ammo for that. Virtually every fight now involves explosive ammo or dynamite arrows. It doesn't matter how much time and effort you put into getting good with standard ammo, some low rank with a free gift from rockstar can get a dozen cheap kills on you and then quit. But there's no point complaining about it because Rockstar will never reverse a decision and remove something from the game. It must have been obvious to them that jet griefing was like a virus in GTA but they still allowed any rank of player to get hold of them. Madness.

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18 hours ago, AmyStone said:

Just look at all the junk in GTA that doesn't fit and has completely ruined the game.

 

Yes, GTA has ALWAYS been so super serious. I mean it's not like we didn't have weaponised vehicles with mounted machine guns, mine and oil slicks in GTA2, Aliens and Jetpacks in SA...Oh wait, we did.

 

People are welcome to have their opinions but don't act like GTA has jumped the shark.

 

9 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

Motor vehicles will either be so over powered horses will be obsolete or they will be so disappointing no one would dare be caught dead in one.

 

If I could lay down one rule, it would be that horses are never made obsolete. They will always be the best ATV choice.

 

Hot Air Balloons can fly over terrain but would be slow, motorbikes can be faster but terrible off-road, cars can hold more people but again, be terrible off-road etc.

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36 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

Yes, GTA has ALWAYS been so super serious. I mean it's not like we didn't have weaponised vehicles with mounted machine guns, mine and oil slicks in GTA2, Aliens and Jetpacks in SA...Oh wait, we did.

 

People are welcome to have their opinions but don't act like GTA has jumped the shark.

 

When I started playing GTA there were weaponised vehicles but I don't think there was anything that didn't actually exist in real life (and I'm talking about GTAO - not story). That was about five years ago. Unless I'm remembering it completely wrong then Oppressor mk1 was when it started to get futuristic. Before that is was all fairly normal.

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2 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

 

When I started playing GTA there were weaponised vehicles but I don't think there was anything that didn't actually exist in real life (and I'm talking about GTAO - not story). That was about five years ago. Unless I'm remembering it completely wrong then Oppressor mk1 was when it started to get futuristic. Before that is was all fairly normal.

 

Thats fine, my point is that people act like GTA has never had insane stuff in it and that GTAO is "jumping the shark". GTA has always had aliens, futuristic vehicles etc. It was only GTA4 when it went back to ground level and it split the fanbase quite drastically.

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I saw this on twitter a while back, a legit machine gunned bicycle from 1897.  I doubt it was meant to be used while peddling tho.  LINK

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, AmyStone said:

 

The game already has explosive ammo for that. Virtually every fight now involves explosive ammo or dynamite arrows. It doesn't matter how much time and effort you put into getting good 

Low ranks do not have explosive or dynamite arrows unless gifted.  There is no way to skip the levels to get this stuff.  This game is so top heavy, a high rank player can literally waste a low rankers entire carried explosive supply in a brief fight. A level 10 player can buy a oppressor in GTAO with about $100.  You cannot even fall off if run into someone with it.  There is nothing close to it into red dead.

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5 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

Low ranks do not have explosive or dynamite arrows unless gifted.  There is no way to skip the levels to get this stuff.  This game is so top heavy, a high rank player can literally waste a low rankers entire carried explosive supply in a brief fight. A level 10 player can buy a oppressor in GTAO with about $100.  You cannot even fall off if run into someone with it.  There is nothing close to it into red dead.

 

You somehow trimmed my quote right at the point where I said '... with standard ammo, some low rank with a free gift from rockstar'.

 

Some low ranks seems to get a stupid supply of free explosives. I don't know if it's the Twitch link that means you get a regular top up but I met a rank 20 a few months ago who was using a load of explosive ammo. I messaged saying 'that has to run out soon' or something like that and he showed me his post office deliveries and he had about 400 rounds of explosives of each type waiting for him.

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55 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

 

You somehow trimmed my quote right at the point where I said '... with standard ammo, some low rank with a free gift from rockstar'.

 

Some low ranks seems to get a stupid supply of free explosives. I don't know if it's the Twitch link that means you get a regular top up but I met a rank 20 a few months ago who was using a load of explosive ammo. I messaged saying 'that has to run out soon' or something like that and he showed me his post office deliveries and he had about 400 rounds of explosives of each type waiting for him.

You just bumped into one lucky guy probably playing an alternate account.  Most have nothing.

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8 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

You just bumped into one lucky guy probably playing an alternate account.  Most have nothing.

 

Alternate account? You mean a second Red Dead character? How does that means you can get free explosives?

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22 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

 

Alternate account? You mean a second Red Dead character? How does that means you can get free explosives?

Yeah, some people have alternate accounts to troll or other purposes.  There was a recent gift where R* gifted an insane amount of explosive ammo.  He probably logged in and got the gift.  Here is a better explanation than I am giving.

 

 

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Dynamite arrows and cars… 🤤 

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It does sound hard to defend. And how would you swap reins to take a turn shooting? Is it true you have a shifter knob, instead of your spurs, to kick into high gear?

 

And yet.. what a pleasure to tour the country in, near the main roads, mind you. Not so different from a motor boat. Probabably sinks when ya cross state lines 🤣

 

There is also a lack of most conveyances though I have to throw the driver out of a buggy or boat, or we have hunting wagons or bounty wagons. Well, there's an idea the NPCs could just occasionall have a car you could relieve em of

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On 6/1/2021 at 7:35 AM, AmyStone said:

 

You somehow trimmed my quote right at the point where I said '... with standard ammo, some low rank with a free gift from rockstar'.

 

Some low ranks seems to get a stupid supply of free explosives. I don't know if it's the Twitch link that means you get a regular top up but I met a rank 20 a few months ago who was using a load of explosive ammo. I messaged saying 'that has to run out soon' or something like that and he showed me his post office deliveries and he had about 400 rounds of explosives of each type waiting for him.

 

On 6/1/2021 at 8:32 AM, CosmicBuffalo said:

You just bumped into one lucky guy probably playing an alternate account.  Most have nothing.

 

On 6/1/2021 at 8:43 AM, AmyStone said:

 

Alternate account? You mean a second Red Dead character? How does that means you can get free explosives?

 

Rockstar has given away a TON of explosive ammo.  My "loot only" account has probably 200+ explosive rounds of each kind as well as dynamite arrows in the lock box.  All log in bonuses I guess, because I don't have prime and I didn't purchase any of the pamphlets, so its possible for a low rank to have a decent amount.

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Yo, let me start by saying i'm fine with cars/motorcycle being added in the future, since they will be there for fun/cosmetic usage with the speed they had at that period.

Now about the "bad side" of car in RDO FREEROAM:

The Armored Wagon from the Legendary bounty mission Carmela "La muneca" Montez is more prompt to come before the Armored Truck of RDR1 https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/Armored_Truck 
Note : The Armored wagon also appear in Honorable Story mission : Bring a Goddamn posse. During this mission you cannot drive it, also it was there before the Prestigious bounty mission of Carmela.

-I won't be happy with the Armored Truck from RDR1 being added if it is not balanced perfectly. Exemple: Driver can be killed with a good shot throught the windows (PIB EZ) or the usage of explosive to disable the truck. (Let's say there's no infinite ammo in the gattling too..)
-Now the Armored Wagon is not seen as a problem to me, since only two bullet could stop the wagon by just killing the horses. (Or one explosive..) (again no infinite ammo.)

Now about the "PVE Side" (mission/private session) in RDO: 

Would it break the game ? - YES.
...Unless the AI get insane when you deploy one. (Similar or more deadly than Law BountyHunter npc/legendary difficulty).

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