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Serg14

So the cars, bikes,motorcycles is coming?

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Serg14

also motorboats, movie theaters, diesel cars already existed in 1899. Do you think rockstart smart enough to add it in online?

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Dilkington

Smart enough? Do you mean stupid enough? I hope not.

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Serg14

no i believe they stupid enough to read wikipedia and find out that this things already exist in 1899.

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Lance_Vance89
5 minutes ago, Serg14 said:

no i believe they stupid enough to read wikipedia and find out that this things already exist in 1899.

Do you realize how rare cars were? There were 2,500 cars being produced in the US in 1899. I doubt any of them were out west.

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Cutter De Blanc

f*ck YOUR HORSE I WANNA RIDE AN OPPRESSOR  MK2, BITCH

 

The skies of New Hanover will never be the same

 

Killing horses with your fighter jet's cannons dawg

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Somegras
15 minutes ago, Lance_Vance89 said:

Do you realize how rare cars were? There were 2,500 cars being produced in the US in 1899. I doubt any of them were out west.

Exactly. It would either be entirely stupid of Rockstar to implement these vehicles in Red Dead Online. If you want flying cars and other 'fun' things, go and play GTA:Online. I presume that the majority of people who buy RDR:2 won't enjoy such playground.

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Lance_Vance89
3 minutes ago, Somegras said:

I presume that the majority of people who buy RDR:2 won't enjoy such playground.

Hopefully, the slow gameplay in RDR2 are have scared off the adhd children who play GTA online.

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Mach1bud

I do expect them to be added into Online at some point. Idk why such the pushback from so many on these forums about cars. A few steam powered rides would fit right in for the time period.

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GroveStGTAV

Rockstar if you really want to add toy or unrealistic things, just bring back undead overrun and bigfoot or firehorse from undead nightmare

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Serg14
1 hour ago, Lance_Vance89 said:

Do you realize how rare cars were? There were 2,500 cars being produced in the US in 1899. I doubt any of them were out west.

it would be great if they add it at incredible high price like hypercars in gta online . or something like that
 

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jje1000

They'll probably be added to RD Online after Rockstar runs out of cosmetics to attract players, and all of them will probably have Gatling guns and rocket propulsion attached to them.

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Commander S

Not to get into spoiler territory, but there's a gap of a few years between the end of the main story, and the extended epilogue stuff - it depends on whether or not R* decides to set RDO before the story, during that gap, or after the epilogue.

 

Considering they ended up ditching the whole 'perpetually a few months before GTA V' thing with GTAO, I reckon they'll take the easier way out, and set the game either during the gap (because it's ambiguous just how long that gap is), or after the epilogue - in either case, that actually puts RDO in the early part of the 20th century, not the 19th.

 

If that means we're going to be playing around in 1903 or thereabouts, then that really opens things up - for one thing, R* could easily do a mashup of the Cadillac Model A and Ford Model A (because they're almost identical!), and it wouldn't be at all anachronistic.


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Frankly, so long as we don't end up with some 'cute' excuse to recycle the Deluxo, I'm cool with period-authentic motor vehicles - ridiculous, out-of-place stuff like what currently drags down GTAO is where I draw the line, m'self...

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Revrico

I did kinda want the deluxo so I can fulfill some back to the future fantasy time. 

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Lonely-Martin
2 hours ago, Mach1bud said:

I do expect them to be added into Online at some point. Idk why such the pushback from so many on these forums about cars. A few steam powered rides would fit right in for the time period.

Definitely no issue with time period items myself. Just cautious of how things go from there if and when that does happen.

 

If seperate PvE/PvP lobbies are true, and if R* show to balance things well so that horses/wagons etc thrive/appeal too and basically we don't keep seeing the bar raised in terms of power, if I make sense, then I'm open minded to much of the good side to the variety from GTA:O. After all, there is a market for many things in this game, if RDRO is looking to draw many playstyles, 'crazy fun toys' is one too, lol.

 

Futuristic Adv. Modes are something I could see and could be a right laugh too. Or to find a Deluxo/train/BTTF reference would be quirky fun. But if those things get glitched or R* leave things to slip and they dominate the game, it's gonna get messy, I feel. :)

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Shadowfennekin

Anything they add will be slower than a horse.

As long as it's history accurate-ish then I'm game for any vehicle. It'd just be something nice to have. 

 

I'm hoping we can buy one of those steam boats eventually so we don't have to steal them all the time.

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Lonely-Martin
15 minutes ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Anything they add will be slower than a horse.

As long as it's history accurate-ish then I'm game for any vehicle. It'd just be something nice to have. 

 

I'm hoping we can buy one of those steam boats eventually so we don't have to steal them all the time.

I'd be up for the steamboat, or at least have one in freemode we can access like a saloon/shop. And if they could add a higher stakes poker game, that would just be awesome too.

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Sootyjared

People don’t seem to understand, if they add cars, they will not be gta online styled super cars. Cars were very primitive in 1899 so if they do add them, it would be more of a prestige thing to show off than any actual, practical thing. You could probably walk faster than they could drive. 

 

It might change if its set later, but not by much.  

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djb204
7 hours ago, Serg14 said:

also motorboats, movie theaters, diesel cars already existed in 1899. Do you think rockstart smart enough to add it in online?

Smart enough? I think it would be a stupid move to add them. Sure they might have existed back then, but they were a very rare sight in the old west. 32 players driving around Valentine in vehicles? The day that happens is the day I stop playing online.

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Mach1bud
Just now, djb204 said:

Smart enough? I think it would be a stupid move to add them. Sure they might have existed back then, but they were a very rare sight in the old west. 32 players driving around Valentine in vehicles? The day that happens is the day I stop playing online.

Outlaws dueling on main street didn't even exist in real life, a complete fabrication of Hollywood. Along with the majority of stylized "Western" ideas  that this game is based on that either didn't exist at all, or were very rare to even see. You act like it's some immersion breaking thing that shouldn't be in the game, yet have no issue with the lake being filled with steamboats as it already is.

 

The whole game is already filled with "rare sights". 

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djb204
33 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

Outlaws dueling on main street didn't even exist in real life, a complete fabrication of Hollywood. Along with the majority of stylized "Western" ideas  that this game is based on that either didn't exist at all, or were very rare to even see. You act like it's some immersion breaking thing that shouldn't be in the game, yet have no issue with the lake being filled with steamboats as it already is.

 

The whole game is already filled with "rare sights". 

I’m aware of the dueling, boats, etc not being authentic to history, but for a game designed with a Wild West theme, those things add to the western experience unlike cars which would hurt the Wild West experience for many people here based on what users are replying.

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Mach1bud
16 minutes ago, djb204 said:

I’m aware of the dueling, boats, etc not being authentic to history, but for a game designed with a Wild West theme, those things add to the western experience unlike cars which would hurt the Wild West experience for many people here based on what users are replying.

I don't think that's true. I think everyone here is just so afraid that adding cars to this game means they will go the same route as GTA Online did with it's craziness, that they can't see past it. I don't think Red Dead is going to go that direction at all however.

 

Riding around in several cars in RDR1 didn't hurt the experience whatsoever.

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Commander S

A good way to balance cars with horses (i.e., not making horses obsolete) would be to make cars costly to run - R* could add fuel to stores, and maybe things like repair/maintenance costs, too.

 

That's in keeping with the kind of pedantic levels of realism in the main game (and which hopefully aren't going to get sanded away for RDO) - so instead of adding cars as some kind of GTA-style convenience, completely transforming the pace of the game, they come with a trade-off, plus their own equivalent to things like cleaning/oiling guns, brushing/feeding horses, washing yourself, etc.

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Display Name

Make them only drivable in select areas, Saint Denis and maybe surrounding land. Also make them worse than horses so they are just a fun gimmick, not a big gameplay thing. People who are afraid of cars breaking the "western" feeling, probably don't realize that this game is barely a western. It's set at the end of wild west so it makes sense to add cars. Red Dead 2 honestly feels more like a Mafia game, than something like Call of Juarez. It was funny too seeing people watch classic westerns in preparations for RDR2, which is almost equivalent to watching old movies about gangsters and mafias from 1930s in preparation for GTA V Release, a game about modern crime. Those are two different eras.

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unicornace

It amazes me that nobody has suggested the flying, time travelling steam train from Back to the Future 3

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Gallows

I hope they set RDO in the 1880’s for a slightly wilder west and then the talk of cars is over.

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Serg14
11 hours ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Anything they add will be slower than a horse.

As long as it's history accurate-ish then I'm game for any vehicle. It'd just be something nice to have. 

 

I'm hoping we can buy one of those steam boats eventually so we don't have to steal them all the time.

you dont need steam boat, motor boat was invented before 1899. but i gues they costs like a jet  back then. so grind -and you have steam boat)

11 hours ago, Shadowfennekin said:

Anything they add will be slower than a horse.

 

I'm hoping we can buy one of those steam boats eventually so we don't have to steal them all the time.

no - diesel cars and petrol motorcycle  was  faster than any horse. but road ruies prevent cars to drive faster back then

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MARKUS.

Anything that gives MUNEH

 

 

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djb204
9 hours ago, Mach1bud said:

Riding around in several cars in RDR1 didn't hurt the experience whatsoever.

Several cars? There were 2 missions in the entire game that had a single vehicle for a few minutes at most. Cars were absent from multiplayer 100%.

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Mach1bud
1 hour ago, djb204 said:

Cars were absent from multiplayer 100%.

Not officially. 

 

 

Doesn't matter though. Whether it's story mode or Online is irrlevant. It's still the same game world.

 

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GTA-Biker

I doubt we'll see any cars and motorcycles in this game.While early cars and motorcycles did exist back in the 1890s,they were rare (probably even in the cities,and especially in the rural areas of the wild West).There are no cars and motorcycles in Saint Denis which is the closest thing this game has to a big modern city,and even in Red Dead Redemption 1 set in 1910s cars were very rare,so I think it's unlikely.

I myself wouldn't mind to see something like one or two Ford Quadricycle cars driving through Saint Denis or even one in Blackwater,but having dozens of players driving around in their own cars would be weird for the western setting.The best thing I could think of to please both the people who want cars and those who want realism would be to put a one or two cars owned by NPCs in more modern towns with paved streets,and allow players to steal and drive them,but make it that there could be only three cars spawned on the map at the same time,so if players have three of them no more would spawn until one despawns.

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