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GreetRevenge

Did the ending ruined the game for you?

Did the ending ruined the game for you?  

174 members have voted

  1. 1. Did the ending ruined the game for you?

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White Shark

No.  The whole story was a masterpiece.  The best story I have ever played and experienced.

 

Arthur Morgan will become legendary in the RDR universe.  I hope there are references to him online, like random NPCs who speak fondly of this hero who rescued them from Murfrees, or from a bear trap or just did kind deeds.  Or even Charlotte, the widow, who talks of Arthur and how he saved her and made a difference to her life.

 

The romantic fantasist in me likes to think that while Arthur was left on that mountain, Charlotte came across him whilst she was foraging, took him back to her house and nursed him back to health.  He now lives there in hiding to live out the rest of his days in peace.

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SneakyDeaky

There were so many times that Arthur "got" to me in chapter 6.

"I got TB. I got it beating a man to death for a few bucks."  Brutal honesty, finally.

When he said "Thank you" to his dying horse and stroked its face...


Hearing him cough every time I smoked a cigarette or drank alcohol, and seeing all kinds of NPC's mention how sick he looked, was a wonderful touch. He really looked and felt ill. It made my final hours with him feel like nothing I've quite experienced with a protagonist before.

I think Arthur portrays the dying, repentant outlaw in chapter 6 better than any character I've seen in video games easily.

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White Shark
19 minutes ago, SneakyDeaky said:

There were so many times that Arthur "got" to me in chapter 6.

"I got TB. I got it beating a man to death for a few bucks."  Brutal honesty, finally.

When he said "Thank you" to his dying horse and stroked its face...


Hearing him cough every time I smoked a cigarette or drank alcohol, and seeing all kinds of NPC's mention how sick he looked, was a wonderful touch. He really looked and felt ill. It made my final hours with him feel like nothing I've quite experienced with a protagonist before.

I think Arthur portrays the dying, repentant outlaw in chapter 6 better than any character I've seen in video games easily.

The bit that really got me was when he was at the train station and he said to the nun "I'm dying, sister."  It was so matter-of-fact, yet final and surrendering.  Arthur represents everything about how the old ways of the west and how the very notion of the outlaw is dying, to make way for industrialisation and "progress".  It was fitting that his final resting place is on a mountain, so remote and away from "civilisation".  Among nature and finally at peace.

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HopalongCasidy

Not no, but oh hell no.  This sequence, rdr>rdr2 is R*s finest storytelling, and I loved the heck outta every gta since PC.

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Whiteshark already used masterpiece

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Oldsport

how many endings are there? i know theres the good and bad ending but i heard theres a secret ending? i seen the title on youtube but didnt feel like watching cause it was 39 mins long. does anyone know about all the endings?

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Cutter De Blanc
1 hour ago, Oldsport said:

how many endings are there? i know theres the good and bad ending but i heard theres a secret ending? i seen the title on youtube but didnt feel like watching cause it was 39 mins long. does anyone know about all the endings?

As far as I know there are 4, based on your honor level and the choice you make at the end

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Oldsport
12 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

As far as I know there are 4, based on your honor level and the choice you make at the end

i only know of 2, the one where arthur dies on the mountain peacefully and the one where micah kills him. which other are there?

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Cutter De Blanc

The two where you go for the money have similar outcomes 

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CharmCitysKing

Nope I actually was freaking ecstatic when I was able to play as John at the end it was like the Icing on the cake. The entire story of RDR2 was about John Marston if you stand on the outside looking in. Its basically his story and how be became the man who he is now at the end of the game and into RDR1 .

51 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

As far as I know there are 4, based on your honor level and the choice you make at the end

 

2 hours ago, Oldsport said:

how many endings are there? i know theres the good and bad ending but i heard theres a secret ending? i seen the title on youtube but didnt feel like watching cause it was 39 mins long. does anyone know about all the endings?

I read there is a Good, Bad & True...whatever True is. 

Spoiler

I went back as John in the Epilogue part 2 and killed Micah's bitch ass with Sadie

 

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Revoemag

Question for those finished the game. 

 

Can you freeroam the entire map as John?

Are all the crafted items such as animal skin suits and weapons lost once Arthur dies? Or can John get to keep them?

And will stranger missions that Arthur didn't do,  can they be done as John?

Thanks to whoever replies 

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CJ_P1999

As much as I loved the story and Arthur, we could in theory have been any of the gang members. Looking back, it almost tells John Marstons origin story through the eyes of Arthur and its' pretty clear that John is THE main character in the RDR universe. Even much of Arthurs story revolved around John and imo they may as well have had us playing as John in the first place..

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Jabalous
8 hours ago, Revoemag said:

Question for those finished the game. 

 

Can you freeroam the entire map as John?

Are all the crafted items such as animal skin suits and weapons lost once Arthur dies? Or can John get to keep them?

And will stranger missions that Arthur didn't do,  can they be done as John?

Thanks to whoever replies 

Yes

John will have whatever Arthur had before his death 

Yes, you can do them all with John as far as I know

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Cjs3315

It was certainly tough watching Arthur die. I had a good feeling that's what would become of him, but it really sucked watching it all happen. 

 

It didn't ruin the game for me, because seeing John make something of himself & his family under Arthur's guidance made me feel a lot better about the fact that Arthur truly changed in the end. It just feels a bit strange right now playing as John.

 

I miss Arthur...

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Cutter De Blanc

I don't like playing as John. I've been trying,  but I just don't feel any motivation to do anything as John except sit on the farm until Edgar shows up.

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Garanga

This and GTA4 have been the best experiences I’ve ever had playing through a story. Both are masterpieces in their own rights

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ThroatSlasher2

I found a post I wrote dating back to August 12th in the Gameplay Series Discussion (page 110) that addressed certain concerns I had with the possible ways they could end RDR2 and to my surprise, I got most of it right.

 

It goes as follow :

 

[...]
 

1) If you end the game by having Arthur either die or flee, then automatically you have to switch to John Marston. However by doing this, you're creating plot holes. How is Marston capable of lifting a deer and being an expert fighter with the frame he has? Marston actually looks a bit slimmer than in RDR1, probably because he's not on the verge of being a middle aged man in this iteration.

 

2) If you end the game as John and settle in Beecher's Hope to build your ranch (according to that leak), how do you justify having Marston still run amok the RDR2 map, robbing trains and banks, etc.

 

3) If the game ends and your gang, regardless of how it happens, is split up and/or most of the members are arrested and dead, wouldn't it be weird to lose what seems like such a big part of this game? The camp looks to be not only an essential storytelling device but also a key feature of RDR2. Getting rid of it by the end of the game will feel just like TLAD when the Clubhouse is burnt down and The Lost MC is dismantled.

 

4) On the other hand, if RDR2 ends with the gang still together, then it's not really a satisfying ending now is it? The whole purpose of this game is without a doubt to connect the dots between RDR I and II and to explain what happened to Dutch's gang and how it all fell apart. I think this is the least likely ending we could see.

 

Other than that, I'm not really sure how they could end this game without falling into one of these 4 traps. But I sure am pumped to see what they've got up their sleeve!

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Lock n' Stock

Not at all tbh. I felt Arthur went out in a very honorable fashion, in addition to helping John escape for a better life.

 

Besides, I kept two different saves so I can return to Arthur at any time (the TB doesn't affect free-roam as much as I'd feared). I would advice others to do the same, if it's not too late.

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Eastern Outlaw

The ending was pretty sick

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JC_HUMBLE

RDR1: Everyone wants to keep playing as John.

 

RDR2: Nobody wants to keep playing as John.

 

(Arthur became my favorite protagonist so far, it was a beatiful journey with him. In the end I loved to play as John as well, my experience became very peaceful after all I lived)...

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The Time Ranger

No it didn't. I accidently spoiled the ending for myself but it hasn't really effected my enjoyment of the story, I knew it wouldn't be a happy ending anyway. The only thing that irks me is seeing Micah hanging around camp and knowing that he will betray you, but it's not a game breaker for me.

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Penicuikscotland2010

Maybe there will be a DLC with Arthur where we can play as him forever. How this would work though i don't know... Unless R* decide to do a Undead Nightmare 2 type DLC again. They would probably make him a zombie too and that would be annoying hearing  "AAUUURRGGGHAA" every 5 minutes again. 

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ALifeOfMisery
On 11/14/2018 at 7:54 AM, CharmCitysKing said:

I read there is a Good, Bad & True...whatever True is. 

I'm also aware of 3 different endings. I know what all 3 are, the ending I got after helping John escape, which I'm really glad I got. A friend went back for the money and told me about a completely different ending. But I also read, on another site, about a slightly different ending to the one I experienced, which I'm extremely glad I didn't get.

 

I don't know how much detail I should go into, even in this thread?

 

Edit: Just read further up that there are 4 endings, helping John has 2 possible outcomes based on your honour and the same goes for going back for the money.

 

I'm not sure I want to complete the game again now, as, after getting the "peaceful" ending from choosing to help John, I don't know if I can emotionally handle any of the alternatives.

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SonOfLiberty

Not at all. As I said in the other thread I literally just finished the ending.

 

Even if I didn't have it spoiled it was obvious he was going to die to his sickness if he didn't die by some other means. The end itself for my liking was really nice and fitting, but it probably didn't quite have the punch to guts feeling Red Dead Redemption's did. Though to be absolutely fair that was always going to be hard level or surpass. I got the ending where he dies peacefully btw.

 

As a side note it's really weird seeing so many say they don't like playing as John. In Red Dead Redemption it was people complaining that they didn't like playing as Jack. The more things change the more they stay the same it seems.;)

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HOW'S ANNIE?

It didn't ruin the game per-se. What I found a bit disappointing though is the imbalance of gameplay wise once you take control of John. Putting all my time and resources into the camp felt a bit pointless, along with going out of my way to customise Arthur to the extent I did. Oh and did somebody say swimming? Taking control of Jack after Johns death in RDR didn't seem as frustrating as this, considering gameplay mostly remained the same post-game.

 

Story wise though it made logical sense, and I really enjoyed the way the plot and the ending a lot. Dare I say it's the single greatest story R* have musted up so far.

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tre288

Nothing more annoying and played out by the second game at this point than spending hundreds of hours as one character, and having them force switched at the end to another.

 

Not enjoyable to me in the first one, not enjoyable to me in the second one.

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caiaof
6 hours ago, Miamivicecity said:

 As a side note it's really weird seeing so many say they don't like playing as John. In Red Dead Redemption it was people complaining that they didn't like playing as Jack. The more things change the more they stay the same it seems.;)

Not weird at all. In RDR people didn't like to play with another character and literally the same thing is happening now. It isn't a matter with John specifically 

 

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2 hours ago, tre288 said:

Nothing more annoying and played out by the second game at this point than spending hundreds of hours as one character, and having them force switched at the end to another.

 

Not enjoyable to me in the first one, not enjoyable to me in the second one.

 

They should have switched for the epilogues only and then let the player create a custom character, to also play in RDO and finish the game to 100%, or freeroam with it. 

Now John has been to places he shouldn't have yet, while completing the game could be done by any rando created character who happened to have found Arthur's satchell and guns, for instance. Missed opportunity from R* to get thr RDO vibes going already, IMO.

 

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Journey_95
27 minutes ago, caiaof said:

Not weird at all. In RDR people didn't like to play with another character and literally the same thing is happening now. It isn't a matter with John specifically 

 

Actually people complained specifically about Jack being a pussy and lame compared to John..but John is a pretty great character himself even if Arthur is a bit more compelling so I don't get why people wouldn't want to play as him. It's the perfect epilogue and at the same time set up for RDR imho

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tre288
7 minutes ago, McGhee said:

 

They should have switched for the epilogues only and then let the player create a custom character, to also play in RDO and finish the game to 100%, or freeroam with it. 

Now John has been to places he shouldn't have yet, while completing the game could be done by any rando created character who happened to have found Arthur's satchell and guns, for instance. Missed opportunity from R* to get thr RDO vibes going already, IMO.

 

 

I'd settle for a damn "be Arthur Morgan" cheat at this point.

 

I liked everything about him infinitely more than john as a playable and customizable character.

 

His hair, his frame, his voice, the way he interacted with everything, and just the way he looked in all of the outfit types i liked to customize him in.

 

Just feels played out to me at this point to encourage players to invest many hours into your character personally, and then predictably a second time around flip a switch to try and squeeze out that emotional payoff, and then essentially leave you post game with something entirely different.

 

As with the first, it turns me off of a second playthrough because what's the point? Only way to explore the rest of the map is to throw away the character, and I'm not enjoying a second playthrough as that character I know investing in is pointless because they'll be wiped and switched.

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SonOfLiberty
6 hours ago, McGhee said:

 

They should have switched for the epilogues only and then let the player create a custom character, to also play in RDO and finish the game to 100%, or freeroam with it. 

Now John has been to places he shouldn't have yet, while completing the game could be done by any rando created character who happened to have found Arthur's satchell and guns, for instance. Missed opportunity from R* to get thr RDO vibes going already, IMO.

 

Good idea. While I don't have any issue playing as John since he's a great character himself I have to admit it's strange that he can go to places he's never been to or doesn't have much knowledge of (like Tumbleweek) because in Red Dead Redemption it gives the impression he's never been outside of West Elizabeth.

 

Also something I done knowing of Arthur's impending fate is I made sure I completed every stranger task I could (well I didn't finish the ones where you have to collect things) because I remember in Red Dead Redemption leaving a few of them unresolved and by the time the story ended in 1914 playing as Jack it just felt bizarre going back to doing them and the people acted like only a few days had passed and were completely oblivious they were interacting with Jack not John. 

 

But I guess that's a drawback of making a prequel and switching to another character right at the end. You risk breaking immersion and coherency. 

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