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Sebor

Coyotes and Black bears do not attack the player?

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Sebor

so far all the groups of Coyotes have run away from me even when they are 5 in group. In rdr 1 coyotes would attack you if you were on foot mainly and with your weapons holstered. Now they always just run away while animals like Muskrat do attack you. Has anyone been attacked yet by Coyotes?

 

Same for Black bears it seems, though one time I got a red dot and it seemed the black bear charged me or something but it then run away. Anyway been attacked by a black bear yet?

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Guest

Black bear surely spooked my horse a few times, but it never attacked me. I get sttacked by wolves, though. And once by an injured boar. Other than that, all animals make way.

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Jason

As far as I know black bears don't usually seek out people to attack, the only usually attack if they're defending them selves or their position. Coyotes idk though.

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Sebor
2 minutes ago, McGhee said:

Black bear surely spooked my horse a few times, but it never attacked me. I get sttacked by wolves, though. And once by an injured boar. Other than that, all animals make way.

Yeah my horse spooked too and there was the red dot warning me of a dangerous animal  like with rattle snakes. It then still ran away though. 

Just now, Jason said:

As far as I know black bears don't usually seek out people to attack, the only usually attack if they're defending them selves or their position. Coyotes idk though.

Are we speaking in game? I was hoping they did and after all it is just a game and if they have muskrats attack the player then black bears and large groups of coyotes definitely should. in RDR coyotes and even foxes attacked the player. While I am glad foxes no longer attack I think coyotes still should. 

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MagicNarcosis

Coyote's bail unless in packs. 

Surprised me, too. I was just waiting to get eaten.

 

So panthers and wolves are the only reoccurring instance of a 4 legged animal attacking you or am I missing something? 

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phipfwe76

I've had a black bear and coyote both show up as a "predator" on the mini map, and scare the horse. I shot the coyote, and the black bear was preoccupied chasing a boar, so I don't know if it would have attacked.

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Mach1bud
1 hour ago, Sebor said:

Are we speaking in game? I was hoping they did and after all it is just a game and if they have muskrats attack the player then black bears and large groups of coyotes definitely should. in RDR coyotes and even foxes attacked the player. While I am glad foxes no longer attack I think coyotes still should. 

In game, and in real life, both coyotes and bears avoid humans. We are not their natural prey. Yes they can attack if they feel threatened, but generally they aren't going for a kill for food. 

 

Same with most predatory animals. Cougars, Grizzly Bears, etc don't naturally hunt humans. 

 

They have definitely made that more realistic in this game.

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phipfwe76

I got bit by a beaver yesterday. 😡

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Grotti Vigilante
36 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

In game, and in real life, both coyotes and bears avoid humans. We are not their natural prey. Yes they can attack if they feel threatened, but generally they aren't going for a kill for food. 

 

Same with most predatory animals. Cougars, Grizzly Bears, etc don't naturally hunt humans. 

 

They have definitely made that more realistic in this game.

The first part was true, but in regards to realism with attacks in game it is different. Grizzly Bears have shown great aggression towards me whenever I have come across them, and just yesterday I was bucked off my horse and almost killed by a Cougar (which interestingly enough seemed blacker than usual. Maybe it was just lighting even, it was at night time after all). Then again, Grizzly Bears are subspecies of Brown Bears, which in turn are considered the most aggressive of all eight species, so I guess Rockstar did kind of get it right, but it's more a hit and miss thing really. Let's be honest though, what fun would hunting bears be in game if there was no risk? One of my favourite moments of the original game was getting chased by a whole pack of them running after me!

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Sebor
52 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

In game, and in real life, both coyotes and bears avoid humans. We are not their natural prey. Yes they can attack if they feel threatened, but generally they aren't going for a kill for food. 

 

Same with most predatory animals. Cougars, Grizzly Bears, etc don't naturally hunt humans. 

 

They have definitely made that more realistic in this game.

Yes but this is still a game. And they have white tail deer, beavers and Muskrats attack you while Alligator snapping turtles, Cottonmouths, Coyotes and Black bears do not. It does not make sense. And Yes black bears and Coyotes have attacked and killed people. Not to mention that there are more black bear attacks recorded then Grizzly. So not having them attack does not make sense.

 

1 hour ago, MagicNarcosis said:

Coyote's bail unless in packs. 

Surprised me, too. I was just waiting to get eaten.

 

So panthers and wolves are the only reoccurring instance of a 4 legged animal attacking you or am I missing something? 

 

Do you mean you have been attacked by Coyotes when in a large pack? Or they just got close to you and did not run away?

 

Well besides those and Grizzly bears and alligators there seems to be no real dangerous animals. Well of course the venomous snakes and most of the large herbivores can attack you and so can horses, bulls, goats and dogs. And yes beaverrs and Muskrats can attack you too. 

 

I have not encountered peccaries yet but I assume they attack as well when you get to new Austin. But herbivores only charge you once and unless you are standing on a cliff they will not kill you. 

 

I Feel that R* if they ever do an update should:

- Have large groups of Coyotes attack you

- Black bears attack 30% of the time

- Wild Boars try to gore you to death some times, same with Bull elk, Moose bulls and Buffalo

- Venomous water snakes should attack

- Small Alligators should attack when provoked

- Alligator snapping turtles should bite when coming to close

 

Still hoping Coyotes and black bears do attack but seems to not be the case... 

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GTA-Biker

Honestly,I think it's a good thing that R* didn't make every animal into a hyper aggressive killing machine,both because it wouldn't be realistic (as some have already said,many animals avoid conflict with humans and only attack if they feel threatened and can't escape or if they're a starving carnivore or omnivore),and because it wouldn't be fun (this way we can explore the wilderness but there's still cougars, wolves, grizzly bears, snakes and alligators to watch out for,it would suck if we would get attacked every ten seconds by almost every animal around).

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Mach1bud
1 hour ago, Sebor said:

Yes but this is still a game. And they have white tail deer, beavers and Muskrats attack you while Alligator snapping turtles, Cottonmouths, Coyotes and Black bears do not. It does not make sense. And Yes black bears and Coyotes have attacked and killed people. Not to mention that there are more black bear attacks recorded then Grizzly. So not having them attack does not make sense.

I'm sure they can attack we just haven't seen it yet. Next time you see a black bear run up to it unarmed and see what happens.

 

Yes I know both have attacked people, but again, they try to avoid humans. Most animals do.

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SAS_Intruder

We don't need more animals attacking in agressive manner since even the way wolves and grizzlies work is already too much. While it is true they do attack humans it is still annoying that even 1 wolf will continue to attack even though I am firing my weapon near him to scare him off. I like wolves and I don't want to hurt them even if it is a video game but they don't give you a choice.  

 

Nothing against sense of danger Rockstar want us to experience but I would prefer more balanced animal world in general. Wolves should be little less aggressive and when they don't have large numbers we should be able to make them go away by just firing warning shots. Grizzlies should be very dangerous if you are close to them but their numbers are too high in some parts of the map. It is like whole gangs of big bad Grizzlies lol. Coyotes should have more interest in us, not necessarily to attack but to follow for a little bit or to try find our weak spot like they do. 

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The FoolYT

Coyotes pretty much run away. I ran up to a pack of 4 unarmed and they all ran. Black bears run away but it's possible they won't if you approach on foot.

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Sebor

I understand that people are liking the more realistic wildlife. Personally I would there be a % of flee or attack for each potential dangerous animal. I feel grizzlies, cougars, alligators, panthers, rattle snakes and wolves should probably have a 50% chance to attack you and 50% to avoid you. While Coyotes, black bears and other species like moose  and Elk should perhaps be around 25% while white tail bucks should be around 10%. 

 

I also feel rockstar made some of the predators extra rare which I understand as it does make encounters more exciting and special but at the same time when Grizzlies and Panthers spawn on the exact same spot all the time and with only a couple of places where they can spawn it takes away the fun and excitement. 

 

What I would like to see: 

- Top predators should also flee on occasion

- Other potential dangerous animals like coyotes need to be more dangerous but should attack only occasionally and should be more likely to flee even when unarmed.

-  More and more random spawning points for large predators to keep the excitement. 

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MagicNarcosis
2 hours ago, Sebor said:

 

 

Do you mean you have been attacked by Coyotes when in a large pack? Or they just got close to you and did not run away?

 

 

As far as ive been told? IRL - coyote's are mainly afraid of human contact, unless they're in a pack or you run. Every dog chases a runner. 

 

These coyote run regardless of the situation. I'd like to see them at least chase you if you make eye contact then retreat.

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volta2001

A bull Elk trampled me after I aimed at then turned my back 

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FinallyRichert14

Hey, I know this post is old but, I just wanted to say about a month go I was playing RD2 online and I was in the Lemoyne region when I saw a stranger in need of help. I rode over to him and I saw he was in a tree with a pack of coyotes circling and jumping at him. I had to kill the pack before he would come down and the pack attacked me. This is the only time I’ve ever been attacked by coyotes in the game and the rest of the time they run away

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LeonVegaSuarez

Black bears and coyotes run. Muskrats will bite the sh*t out of you though.

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Caffeination

The reason Coyotes don’t attack you is because Rockstar literally never added attack animations for them.

 

There’s a Story random event that happens with a cougar southwest of Valentine, involving a misfortune man trapped up a tree because of the predator. The event got recycled Online, and the type of predator became more diverse, ranging from wolves to a grizzly, including coyotes.

 

I got the coyote ones a few days ago. They appeared as red dots when I got to help the man, but all they did was run at me and touch me with their snouts, making me do a weird stumble animation that did little damage, all before running away and then back at me to repeat the process.

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Cutter De Blanc

Ive kicked a Black bear to death, they dont attack

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Jamngemin
12 hours ago, FinallyRichert14 said:

Hey, I know this post is old but, I just wanted to say about a month go I was playing RD2 online and I was in the Lemoyne region when I saw a stranger in need of help. I rode over to him and I saw he was in a tree with a pack of coyotes circling and jumping at him. I had to kill the pack before he would come down and the pack attacked me. This is the only time I’ve ever been attacked by coyotes in the game and the rest of the time they run away

Yup this can happen with coyote but only in this instance, I've seen a lot of aggressive plant eaters in rdr2! It takes a special circumstance before a Whitetail buck will run ya over...do I know what the circumstances is no but I've witnessed it a few times, big cats and big bears are a cowboys nightmare in rdr2

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t-p-d-a

black bears doesn't attack humans... only just for defense

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