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Bringing gang members with you

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jje1000

Interesting- apparently this feature is described as such in-game? Can anyone confirm this?

 

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Still wondering if it might be patched in at a later date- especially if the feature is actually described like that.

 

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Dangerous and sad
2 hours ago, jje1000 said:

Interesting- apparently this feature is described as such in-game? Can anyone confirm this?

 

IMG-7375.jpg


Still wondering if it might be patched in at a later date- especially if the feature is actually described like that.

 

That could just be referring to missions but who knows. They are right though. They save your ass quite a bit 

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Gallows
2 hours ago, jje1000 said:

Interesting- apparently this feature is described as such in-game? Can anyone confirm this?

 

IMG-7375.jpg


Still wondering if it might be patched in at a later date- especially if the feature is actually described like that.

 

It's so vague. It can simply refer to missions. But I do think they intended the feature to be available.

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jje1000
8 minutes ago, Gallows said:

It's so vague. It can simply refer to missions. But I do think they intended the feature to be available.

Agreed, it's such a stranger and redundant phrase- in missions your gang members are already preset, so why would they state that "it can be invaluable" as if the player has a choice?

 

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kasa

Kind of related: I hadn’t been in camp for a while and suddenly bill showed up and asked if I wanted to join him because I hadn’t been for a while, I said yes, there came a loading screen and then my game got stuck! 

 

Anyway im wondering if I wouldn’t give him an answer if it would have been possible to drive around with him

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Satanta
9 hours ago, kasa said:

Kind of related: I hadn’t been in camp for a while and suddenly bill showed up and asked if I wanted to join him because I hadn’t been for a while, I said yes, there came a loading screen and then my game got stuck! 

 

Anyway im wondering if I wouldn’t give him an answer if it would have been possible to drive around with him

Likely he will do what I encounter a lot-someone calls out and says something to me, takes me a minute to orient on who and where they are then, byt the time I get close enough to interact they just walk off and any response option except for "draw Weapon" is greyed out.

 

I was riding up a hill near a cliff, someone called out to me-got trees everywhere, a cliff on one side going up and a drop-off on the other, took me a minute to find them then, as I rode up they mentioned "Well it's just a map-aint nothin but a piece of paper so I guess you don't want it." and hopped on their horse and rode away-I had 20 seconds or so between hearing them speak, figuring out where they were to respond but it took me 22 seconds so they game just yanked it away.

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Wheatley131
11 hours ago, Gallows said:

It's so vague. It can simply refer to missions. But I do think they intended the feature to be available.

Well, they say that when taking on enemy gangs right? I don't really recall the gang raiding any gang hideout on a mission. I was thinking it referred to those free roam hideouts. But like you said, it's very vague. 

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GroveStGTAV

It would be fun but its not realistic in outside of the mission. Because bodyguards are always mindless and looks at you and always follows you whatever you do. Acts like a robot.

 

the best bodyguard system was in the gta iv. Dwaynes boys coming for niko because dwayne told them and when they were not waiting for die to leave. Walks from your side

 

gta v bodyguards following you from 7 feet away

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Dangerous and sad

interesting image here that doesn't occur in the game. Dutch watching us play poker after he has most likely bust out. Again more evidence of this feature. Also ever notice in the gameplay part 2 trailer where it says you can "Rob a train", it shows arthur riding beside the train and saide being helped up the train by someone. I don't recall this happening at all. Not in any of the robberies in the game. Thoughts?

 Image result for poker red dead redemption 2 image dutch

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jje1000
3 hours ago, Dangerous and sad said:

interesting image here that doesn't occur in the game. Dutch watching us play poker after he has most likely bust out. Again more evidence of this feature. Also ever notice in the gameplay part 2 trailer where it says you can "Rob a train", it shows arthur riding beside the train and saide being helped up the train by someone. I don't recall this happening at all. Not in any of the robberies in the game. Thoughts?

 Image result for poker red dead redemption 2 image dutch

It would be really nice being able to bring some of the gang into town for things like parlor poker as well.

 

For the train robbery part, it could be just part of a mission with the characters swapped out.

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GusMcCree

So its the interaction with a gang same a marketing gag like the 50 unique weapons ...

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JC_HUMBLE

Do you guys remember the leak videos, I swear I saw Arthur with Javier and Charles making havoc in Valentine.

 

First I thought it was the fist fight mission in the saloon but it should failed if you start a shooting right?

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Dangerous and sad
37 minutes ago, Shinola Gamer said:

Do you guys remember the leak videos, I swear I saw Arthur with Javier and Charles making havoc in Valentine.

 

First I thought it was the fist fight mission in the saloon but it should failed if you start a shooting right?

I think that was just a sort of glitch that occurs if you start a shoot-out in the place before doing the mission. They'll sometimes come to assist you

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JC_HUMBLE
1 minute ago, Dangerous and sad said:

I think that was just a sort of glitch that occurs if you start a shoot-out in the place before doing the mission. They'll sometimes come to assist you

Yeah too good to be true...

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6 hours ago, GusMcCree said:

So its the interaction with a gang same a marketing gag like the 50 unique weapons ...

Pretty much.  If you watch the gameplay videos, especially when the narrator talks about activities you can do, they mix free roam activities with story missions making it seem like you can do more stuff in free roam. 

 

That's why I try hard not to get hyped up by their trailers because they make it difficult to decipher what is a scripted event and what is random.

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Satanta
8 hours ago, GusMcCree said:

So its the interaction with a gang same a marketing gag like the 50 unique weapons ...

Well, there are what?  15 or 16 weapons?

 

Each one has a variety of Skins from barrel to sights and stocks so, techinically speaking there are "50 Unique Weapons".

 

Not exactly what we hoped for but they didn't Technically lie.  😛

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Dangerous and sad

The only reason why i'm slightly optimistic for this is because some sort of patch has to be coming to fix sh*t like the major character bug that can occur in chapter 2.

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RedDadRedemption
On 11/1/2018 at 1:11 AM, kasa said:

yes, really hoped also for this, San Andreas had thisfeature, never understood why they took it out for other games

Loved this feature in san andreas would recruit a couple homies then drive them off mt chiliad

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jje1000

Some more interesting developments, another instance of the AI following you- some fairly detailed mechanics:

 

 

And a Reddit user mentioning in the comments about an early mod for a companion/bodyguard:

 

Personally it's only solidified my hopes for a PC release so all modders can get deep into the systems.

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Xboxeddy
On 11/1/2018 at 10:27 PM, BossedupNocap said:

Wow bro, you won’t believe how angry this has made me. Wtf. I specifically remember before the game was released a selling point was that “gang members could loot dead bodies before you if they reached them first”. The moment I played and realized this was false, I should’ve known!

I've physically witnessed other gang memebers looting dead bodies not as a free roaming companion but in mission the mission with Kieron, bill and Arthur where you go and kill those people a true the cabin...Kieron was walking around looting bodies, I've also noticed on many occasion during missions involving other camp members that bodies that I've created are unable to be looted while others close by are, I put This down to other camp members looting the bodies before I got to them. 

 

As far as the original topic you can't get them to tag along and its not mission blocked

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Rykjeklut
12 minutes ago, Xboxeddy said:

I've physically witnessed other gang memebers looting dead bodies not as a free roaming companion but in mission the mission with Kieron, bill and Arthur where you go and kill those people a true the cabin...Kieron was walking around looting bodies, I've also noticed on many occasion during missions involving other camp members that bodies that I've created are unable to be looted while others close by are, I put This down to other camp members looting the bodies before I got to them. 

 

Yeah,this absolutely happens.

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Satanta

NVRmind.  wrote a long piece, my mouse is screwing up and it blended in and messed it all up so not doing it again.

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Dangerous and sad
2 hours ago, Satanta said:

NVRmind.  wrote a long piece, my mouse is screwing up and it blended in and messed it all up so not doing it again.

Summaries please. I got a notification for your message so can only assume it was for me

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Ring Dang Do
On 11/9/2018 at 7:37 PM, jje1000 said:

Agreed, it's such a stranger and redundant phrase- in missions your gang members are already preset, so why would they state that "it can be invaluable" as if the player has a choice?

 

Some missions it gives you the options to use your gang members to help you though. I can think of 2 instances just now, at the very start on the train if you help Lenny climb aboard you can ask for his help killing the mobs, again with Lenny there is a mission killing Lemoyne Raiders where you have the option to use Lenny to draw them out into the open. I'm sure there's more as well.

 

Youre right though when I first read it I assumed you would be abale to have a gang member tag along with you when free roaming, which would of been cool.

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Satanta
1 hour ago, Dangerous and sad said:

Summaries please. I got a notification for your message so can only assume it was for me

Sorry, did not think about that.

 

I'll try.

 

Problem with Patches now is, most are already in the Middle or Finished with the game.  Parts of it [[for me]] have long replay ability value such as the Hunting.  I still have a saved game from RDR1-right before the final Marston mission where I ride around and hunt or play Liars Dice and such but there is not story and a update adding to it would not add a lot of value to something replayed a dozen time.

 

I still ride the Seas in Black Flag just to have battles, looting and funds are no longer important but I like the ship to ship battles in the game.

 

I am on my second start with RDR2 now-I restarted in Chpt 3 to resolve the missing characters thing and it didn't work-I have found out how to resolve it since but not sure if going thru the hassles of getting horses, hunting down this and that is worth another restart at this point much less if I was in chpt 5 or finished-at that point the fixes become a bit of "Ok, do I want to redo this again now?"

 

I think a lot of the issues I've read about-low numbers of weapons, gang members going on Missions by request...I think they are saving those for MP.   Puts people like me out because I do not have the funds to subscrtibe to Xbox Gold or Live or whatever to just play MP for one game and, with my vision issues joining in a group to raid a bank or a gang hideout?   Good for laughs if everyone has a sense of humor.  :D

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Dangerous and sad

Just noticed something very interesting. Notice how every time during the gameplay trailers, when we had other gang members by our side, they were shown with white blips. But when you look at the end of the first gameplay trailer at the part where they say "Fateful journey of a band of outlaws on the run across America", the gang is with you but there are no blips. Now this may not be anything special but what really caught my eye is the radar. On the radar you can an Icon that would also appear when you just free-roam by yourself. This for me suggest that this part, where the 6 or 7 gang members riding together is in fact free-roam. Thoughts?

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Dangerous and sad

Just triggered something insanely insanely cool. Alright so I was meant to go to a mission with Dutch and John(No spoilers when or what it is) and they were waiting in a place for me. I accidentally triggered the cops and got them on me and guess what? They joined me and holy f*cking sh*t was it fun. The AI IS CRAZY good and light years ahead of the gang members in games like GTA SA. Dutch was dual-wielding and he was so f*cking accurate and precise, plus he had really cool animations while shooting(Probably notice them during missions with him that involve shoot-outs), John too was also very accurate and they saved my ass quite a bit. I've never had so much fun and it was better than I imagined having gang members by your side. Dutch and John are my top 3(Arthur of course is number 1) so this was just perfect as I always wanted to hang out and f*ck sh*t up with them 2 the most.

 

However, since it's not a actual feature, it's heavily flawed. First of all as soon as I shot and alerted the police, they were actually running away. It wasn't until the police started shooting at me did they cover me. Second of all, when you clear out the police(And trust me, this happens quick when you combine yourself and Dutch and John who are not only insanely accurate but also have infinite health) they start to run away. I noticed that only Dutch showed as a white blip on my radar and John wasn't so I lost John too easily while they ran away. It's very very frustrating having to chase after them as they don't follow you regardless of police shoot-outs. There's also some nice dialogue if you stop shooting for a bit as both Dutch and John ask you why you aren't shooting along with other stuff.

 

Please Rockstar just patch this feature in. Like I said, I'v never had so much fun as much as I did just there and i've sunken countless hours into this game. I can't imagine a full on feature where they follow you regardless and where you can bring as many as you want. Bring the likes of Bill, Javier, lenny, Micah(Sike, you can f*ck off), charles and so many others and just f*ck sh*t up. I'd love to bring somewhat unique characters, Characters who dual wield like Dutch and Micah(Again Sike, no one likes you), characters with one pistol(Like vast majority) Charles with his reliable sawn-off shotgun and someone like Bill with his Bolt-action rifle. Hope you're all able to activate this feature. It is flawed and is possibly only a a specific number of time for reasons mentioned above but holy sh*t is it fun. Good luck :)

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