Real life equivalents of each state?

[jje1000]

On 2/2/2019 at 1:45 AM, JC Hammer said:

Except that you can ride a horse from Van Horn to Blackwater in about 15 minutes, making that about an 8 mile ride. That would make the Map less than 20 miles wide at any point.

TBH RDRII's world is more an approximation of the real thing, it's supposed to capture the spirit of each region rather than being truly representational.

 

Otherwise you could start making points about how each state lacks a capitol, how the railways make no sense, etc.

[Deadman2112]

On 2/9/2019 at 10:07 AM, ghostsoap01 said:

Is there red soil in Louisiana? I wouldn't know, but I guess if it does than its possible that Lemoyne is completely based on Louisiana.

We do have some areas that have red soil.

 

Baton Rouge is a city west of New Orleans (just like Rhodes is west of Saint Denis). Baton Rouge is French and translates to Red Stick. The present-day name of the city, however, dates back to 1699, when French explorers noted a red cypress tree stripped of its bark that marked the boundary between Houma and Bayou Goula's tribal hunting grounds. They called the tree "le baton rouge," or red stick. The native Indiana name for the site had been Istrouma. It is also the capital of the state.

 

There are other places like Orange Texas and Lake Charles Louisiana that border the two state's. Both are to the west of new Orleans like Rhodes and I'm pretty sure both have red soil. If not the land north of there certainly does.

 

...add to that the yellow fever plagues that practically whipped out a few towns in Louisiana during the late 1800's and how that ties in with the town of Pleasance and the plague references...

Then it's probably a safe bet that all of Lemoyne is in-fact a recreation of Louisiana.

 

 

Edited February 14, 2019 by Deadman2112

[Deadman2112]

I did more digging and it looks like Rhodes might be based on this place...

 

Claiborne Parish, Louisiana

 

 

The parish is made up of 4 town's/city's...

...Homer (Named after the Greek poet Homer)

...Haynesville

...Lisbon

...Athens

(side note a Parish is the equivalent to a County)

 

Claiborne Parish is named for William C C Claiborne, who was the first governor of Louisiana from 1812 to 1816.

 

The effigy located outside the courthouse is very similar to the one located in Rhodes...

 

 

 

 

Although, I feel it's important to note that several city's located in the south have civil war monuments commemorating fallen soldier's that resemble this one. So, I guess Rhodes could be based on any number of places, but I still think this place is a good fit.

 

 

Edited February 20, 2019 by Deadman2112

[Deadman2112]

Even more interesting parallels between the two locations...

 

Claiborne's first two wives, Eliza Wilson Lewis and Marie Clarisse Duralde, died of yellow fever in New Orleans, within five years of each other.

 

(This ties into the plague reference at Pleasance.)

 

Another very interesting one is...

 

Braithwaites and the Gray's

...versus the real life  Family Feud between the Tuggle/Ramsey.

Starting in the late 1880's, (allegedly started over a family dog) that later turned into a violent family feud in the vicinity of Homer, Louisiana in Claiborne Parish.

 

The Tuggles and the Ramseys viciously feuded with each other over the course of several years. During this time both families took part in such activities as, raiding, ambushing and assassinating one another. Ultimately resulting in the death of not only family members on both side's of the dispute, but apparently hired guns as well.

 

(...basically, suggesting that the story characters were the Hired Guns. lol

Nice way to tie that into the story R*.)

 

Several newspaper reports from the time alluded to the idea that this was not really about a dog, but rather it was about a white lightening/moonshine territorial standoff between the two families.

 

(Just like the Braithwaites and the Gray's)

 

Another interesting side note regarding the two families...

 

It was also rumored that the two families were possibly related by way of a secret marriage. 

 

(Just like the Braithwaite girl and the Gray boy.)

 

Very cool way to tie the history of the location into the story.

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Deadman2112

[Hmmm nice bike]

I think the only obvious ones are Lemoyne (Louisiana), Ambarino (Colorado) and New Austin (the desert parts of Texas, plus some New Mexico and Arizona thrown in as well). West Elizabeth might be Kansas or Oklahoma, and New Hanover is most likely based on Kentucky/Tennessee/West Virginia with the eastern-most portion probably being something like Virginia.

[eastriver]

New Hanover, specifically The Heartlands is at least loosely based on Nebraska because the two large rocks closely resemble a real life natural landmark. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courthouse_and_Jail_Rocks

The rest of the Heartlands is also probably inspired by Kansas and Oklahoma.
But New Hanover is a big state which also includes Annesburg, Roanoke Ridge, Van Horn, and Cumberland Forests, and I honestly have no clue where those parts of the state are inspired from.

 

Lemoyne is your 'southern' state that mostly draws inspiration from Louisiana.

Saint Denis is loosely based off New Orleans.

Braithwaith Manor is closely resembles a real life plantation in Louisiana https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Alley_Plantation
Caliga Hall closely resembles are rea life plantation in West Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Plantation

 

I have no idea if New Austin, West Elizabeth, or Ambarino have landmarks that closely resemble real life landmarks. Can't say anything more about them other than stuff like New Austin is a desert state so it's probably inspired by Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas.

Edited February 21, 2019 by IG_

[Oldsport]

i still think parts of lemoyne is based on florida

[Middle Class Roadman]

So is Roanoke Ridge based on parts of Arkansas? 

[DEADWOODZ]

Van Horn Trading Post is based on:

 

Natchez, Mississippi 

 

 

 

 

[Jabalous]

3 hours ago, Oldsport said:

i still think parts of lemoyne is based on florida

What makes you think so? 

[PapasHota]

Cholla Springs is based on Sonora Desert and Diez Corona is based on Monument Valley

[Daniel0000]

Annesburg has got to be in Arkansas even the type of trees and landscape they use around the town looks like Arkansas not to mention its right above lemoyne which is clearly Louisiana and right next to new hanover which in my opinion has to be texas and maybe a little oklahoma  and the others Mexico  Colorado and mabye a little North Dakota 

[MostWantedMVP]

Saint Denis is based on New Orleans. Incredible.

 

 

 

 

[GinsengElixir]

On 2/22/2019 at 10:19 PM, DEADWOODZ said:

Van Horn Trading Post is based on:

 

Natchez, Mississippi 

 

 

 

 

Wait...which picture is the actual game? 

[Trademark Da Skydiver]

On 6/1/2019 at 4:54 AM, Daniel0000 said:

Annesburg has got to be in Arkansas even the type of trees and landscape they use around the town looks like Arkansas not to mention its right above lemoyne which is clearly Louisiana and right next to new hanover which in my opinion has to be texas and maybe a little oklahoma  and the others Mexico  Colorado and mabye a little North Dakota 

Annesburg is Pittsburgh , northern Roanoke ridge is parts of Ohio , Pennsylvania, Virginia & Kentucky all in one big nutshell as Van horn is Mississippi as well as bluewater marsh to an extent , the heartlands is Nebraska , Arkansas and Kansas (Valentine is loosely based off of Wichita, Kansas) , Tall Trees , Big Valley & West grizzlies is Colorado , Great Plains is Kansas & Missouri, hennigans stead is southern Oklahoma & northern Texas while the rest of new Austin is Texas , Arizona, Nevada and southeastern California 

[Trademark Da Skydiver]

Blackwater , Missouri https://i.imgur.com/mA1zLsS.jpg

[Oldsport]

@Trademark Da Skydiver where do u get valentine was based off witchita ?

[Trademark Da Skydiver]

47 minutes ago, Oldsport said:

@Trademark Da Skydiver where do u get valentine was based off witchita ?

Red Dead wiki 

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48 minutes ago, Oldsport said:

@Trademark Da Skydiver where do u get valentine was based off witchita ?

Which makes sense because Wichita was a booming livestock town in the late 1800s as well 

[evang56432]

On 2/8/2019 at 6:26 PM, UndeadPotat0 said:

I don't think any of the grizzlies is in Canada tho that'd be cool. If a separate country was in the game it would have been mentioned.

I think lemoyne is just Louisiana in it's entirety. 

I don’t agree with this. I believe Lemoyne has Mississippi influence as well as some Georgia because of the red soil. West Texas is majority desert and Texas is home to the Pala Duró canyons when if you compare it to new Austin and the top part of new Austin near hennigins stead it looks very similar. I would say new Austin is solely Texas with some New Mexico. West Elizabeth I would say is the Oklahoma East Texas and maybe some Kansas. Ambarino is definitely not the Appalachian mountains because they have Rocky Mountain bull elk, which are found in the Rocky Mountains which leads me to believe that that ranges anywhere from Colorado to Wyoming. Also keep in mind this is a western themed game so I don’t think Virgina is in it and that the most east state possible would be Georgia. 

 

[Mr.Yeti.-]

I'd say that Ambarino is more of (Colorado, and the pnw vibes) and the heartlands is probably Kentucky, Tennessee, and definitely Kansas (because Valentine seems to be based off of Wichita, Kansas). the great plains is no doubt inspired by Missouri(because Blackwater looks very similar to a real town/city in Missouri) and maybe eastern Oklahoma. I think hennigans stead has southern Oklahoma, and northern Texas vibes, the rest of New Austin is no doubt western Texas(because that's where the desert part of the state is in), Arizona, New Mexico, and southern California. And I don't really know what big valley is inspired by. eastern Lemoyne is obviously inspired by Louisiana and Scarlatt Meadows is inspired by western Mississippi and a little bit of Georgia(imo). Roanoke is probably inspired by western Arkansas, and parts of Mississippi.(because Van Horn is loosely based off of Natchez, Mississippi). This is all I know at the moment, feel free to let me know what you think Big Valley is inspired by.       

[GinsengElixir]

On 6/21/2019 at 4:16 AM, Trademark Da Skydiver said:

Red Dead wiki 

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Which makes sense because Wichita was a booming livestock town in the late 1800s as well 

More of a city. Wichita was quite big even then with loads of brickwork buildings.

 

Seems more like Ogallala, Nebraska.

[Failed Again]

To bad we never got to Tahiti

[ilovebender.com]

On 11/1/2018 at 9:28 AM, copperrobber said:

This seems accurate imo

Cred: Bretmaverick777

This has me quickly trying to figure out now where on the game map everything south of Canada is in the Grizzlies to put me as close to Seatle, WA or anywhere in Oregon, and I also now feel a lot more sorry for my horse named 'Car' on RDR2 Online.

On 7/27/2019 at 6:21 PM, Failed Again said:

To bad we never got to Tahiti

... Yet.

[Oilfieldguu]

The heartland oil fields and refineries are Cleveland Ohio for this time period 

[BootyWarrior]

 Cumberland Falls, Kentucky

 

 Cumberland Falls, New Hanover 

 

[Cory07]

I know the game mentions it takes place in the East and that Lamoyne is in New York... Also there actualy is an La Moyne Ny. Alot of the northern area is in Pennsylvanian as well. 

[Middle Class Roadman]

Scarlett Meadows = Northern Louisiana 

[Cutter De Blanc]

Where is Big Valley supposed to be?

[LittleJesus]

2 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Where is Big Valley supposed to be?

Maybe western California? 

   - Real life Strawberry 

 

Spoiler

 

- Sierra Nevada

[Kilcrease]

Rhodes is very much Georgia-like and Sacrlet Meadows is more of a Deep South culture and feel.  Things blur a bit between being Georgia and Alabama, but it's very authentic.