The RDR2 Beta Hunt

[Darealbandicoot]

Ffs stuff like the overalls were recycled into Red Dead Online. Rockstar are pricks cutting all the good stuff and leaving the sh*tty outfits. 

 

Also the closed gunslinger was meant to be the default but they f*cked up and made the off hand version the default for whatever stupid reason. 

[Stuart Lugsden]

Theres something I've noticed and it's something I haven't seen anyone else bring up. In the final version of "Pouring Forth Oil IV" it's just Arthur, John, Charles and Sean and they do the missions in their normal clothes. The second trailer shows us that in the beta version Bill and Lenny wear suppose to be part of it and they and Arthur are wearing their black robbery jackets. If you look very carefully you can just see Sean and Charles wearing their own unique black jackets. John can be seen in the far back but you can't make out his clothing because of his distance and because of how dark it is but it's obvious that he's also wearing a black jacket and possibly a unique one. Rockstar reused Charles jacket for "American Venom" and using a mod you can find Sean's one. I bet Johns one is still in the game files somewhere. I would post pictures but it's not letting me for some reason. Also I'm new here. 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 17, 2021 by Stuart Lugsden
Made a mistake

[morestacks4me]

9 hours ago, Stuart Lugsden said:

Theres something I've noticed and it's something I haven't seen anyone else bring up. In the final version of "Pouring Forth Oil IV" it's just Arthur, John, Charles and Sean and they do the missions in their normal clothes. The second trailer shows us that in the beta version Bill and Lenny wear suppose to be part of it and they and Arthur are wearing their black robbery jackets. If you look very carefully you can just see Sean and Charles wearing their own unique black jackets. John can be seen in the far back but you can't make out his clothing because of his distance and because of how dark it is but it's obvious that he's also wearing a black jacket and possibly a unique one. Rockstar reused Charles jacket for "American Venom" and using a mod you can find Sean's one. I bet Johns one is still in the game files somewhere. I would post pictures but it's not letting me for some reason. Also I'm new here. 

 

 

 

 

you can send a pic here by uploading it to imgBB first and then sending it here from there and it will appear properly

[BAGS00]

5 hours ago, morestacks4me said:

you can send a pic here by uploading it to imgBB first and then sending it here from there and it will appear properly

Do you know how to post a pic from a smartphone?

[sefus]

1 minute ago, BAGS00 said:

Do you know how to post a pic from a smartphone?

you could also use catbox.moe

[BAGS00]

2 hours ago, sefus said:

you could also use catbox.moe

It worked, just posting beta Arthur to test it

[Stuart Lugsden]

14 hours ago, morestacks4me said:

you can send a pic here by uploading it to imgBB first and then sending it here from there and it will appear properly

 

14 hours ago, morestacks4me said:

you can send a pic here by uploading it to imgBB first and then sending it here from there and it will appear properly

I'm still trying to figure this site out  

[morestacks4me]

8 hours ago, Stuart Lugsden said:

 

I'm still trying to figure this site out  

you're just pressing on a blue button in the middle of the screen on this site, uploading photo, then sending it here

[Stuart Lugsden]

On 10/18/2021 at 6:36 PM, morestacks4me said:

you're just pressing on a blue button in the middle of the screen on this site, uploading photo, then sending it here

Still can't upload them. Why is this site so complicated? 

[stag3coach2]

7 hours ago, Stuart Lugsden said:

Still can't upload them. Why is this site so complicated? 

Go to imgur.com, upload your image there, copy the url link and past it onto the post.

[Cheddarhead7]

On 10/3/2021 at 8:11 AM, morestacks4me said:

earlier this year i did find voice files of when Dutch and Arthur are getting a suit, and then i think Bill meets them on a carriage after the shopping. There was also something else but i forgot. It's in the files

Did you find any voice files involving Molly for that mission? I know she was originally supposed to be at the party too

[morestacks4me]

On 10/27/2021 at 2:37 PM, Cheddarhead7 said:

Did you find any voice files involving Molly for that mission? I know she was originally supposed to be at the party too

I've uploaded a video with Molly's voicefiles from that mission a while ago, check it out. Her lines are at the start of the video

[Lemoyne outlaw]

i found this on the red dead redemption mysteries subreddit. it is not my find and i take no credit. im just sharing something interesting i found.

 

apparently there were meant to be two more plants to be able to pick and use.

 

 

[BAGS00]

On 10/13/2021 at 10:10 AM, Darealbandicoot said:

Ffs stuff like the overalls were recycled into Red Dead Online. Rockstar are pricks cutting all the good stuff and leaving the sh*tty outfits. 

 

Also the closed gunslinger was meant to be the default but they f*cked up and made the off hand version the default for whatever stupid reason. 

Since you pointed this out I can't really wear the gunslinger outfit anymore without noticing it, it just looks wrong, no idea how they messed it up.

[Edward RDRIII]

I was just thinking here, maybe Rockstar changed Arthur's hair and beard color to light brown because if it was still dark brown John would look even more similar to him during the Epilogue, considering he already uses the exact same hair and beard model as Arthur, excepting for the different scars on their faces.

[stag3coach2]

4 hours ago, Dudu RDRII said:

I was just thinking here, maybe Rockstar changed Arthur's hair and beard color to light brown because if it was still dark brown John would look even more similar to him during the Epilogue, considering he already uses the exact same hair and beard model as Arthur, excepting for the different scars on their faces.

The thing is that for what I red it seems that originally epilogue Marston was going to be like the NPC John Marston, the JMRP does not invent anything, they are using what Rockstar already left in the game files but for some reason I can't understand they dumped in the last moment and created this weird mutant hybrid we have today.

 

[Edward RDRIII]

1 hour ago, stag3coach2 said:

The thing is that for what I red it seems that originally epilogue Marston was going to be like the NPC John Marston, the JMRP does not invent anything, they are using what Rockstar already left in the game files but for some reason I can't understand they dumped in the last moment and created this weird mutant hybrid we have today.

 

The second Rockstar decided to turn John into what he is now was probably when they also decided to change Arthur's hair and beard colors as well, giving strenght to my theory.

Edited November 28, 2021 by Dudu RDRII
Comment corrected.

[ThanatOr]

12 hours ago, stag3coach2 said:

The thing is that for what I red it seems that originally epilogue Marston was going to be like the NPC John Marston, the JMRP does not invent anything, they are using what Rockstar already left in the game files but for some reason I can't understand they dumped in the last moment and created this weird mutant hybrid we have today.

 

i think that is just a placeholder model for screenshots and trailers so they don't show the "older" marston, it seems weird to me that the model jmrp uses isn't even finished and actually only the head is modeled, remember they did the same for sick arthur by, well, not making him sick in a cutscene where he is sick in the actual game

[RedDeadRus]

It's holdout machine, and it looks like it was cut out. Daan found some animation string for this device.

Apparently, as in RDR1, we could cheat during the game, which is undoubtedly interesting, but they refused this idea. I think we could have bought this device from fence, or received it during the "A Fine Night of Debauchery" mission, where we used it, but then decided to replace it with Strauss, but this is just my guess.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2021 by RedDeadRus

[EnergiDaan]

I found remains of the Hosea's version of the fenton outfit

 

 

I'll try to find the rest

Edited December 6, 2021 by EnergiDaan

[EnergiDaan]

On 11/30/2021 at 3:55 PM, RedDeadRus said:

It's holdout machine, and it looks like it was cut out. Daan found some animation string for this device.

Apparently, as in RDR1, we could cheat during the game, which is undoubtedly interesting, but they refused this idea. I think we could have bought this device from fence, or received it during the "A Fine Night of Debauchery" mission, where we used it, but then decided to replace it with Strauss, but this is just my guess.

 

 

I did not find this, Alzair found it

[stag3coach2]

8 hours ago, EnergiDaan said:

I found remains of the Hosea's version of the fenton outfit

 

 

I'll try to find the rest

It's amazing how much content was cut from this game.

[RedDeadRus]

Speaking of more finds, rollschuh2282 recently found another cut-out character who gave 5 additional cut-out missions on the Guarma — Senor Andreas Colon (or Senor Andrea Scolon, but it seems more that the first option is more accurate).

His missions could be completed both for Arthur and for John. I don't know much about his missions yet, we only know that in the first mission he seemed to meet drunk at a table in some location (it looks like there is a navmesh at this place, because when rollschuh2282 teleported to these coordinates, instead of teleporting to the surface, he falls endlessly).

Even in the last mission, he was lying on the beach, which is a remnant from Guama, where he used sketchbook and umbrella and a boat was involved.

An opium pipe that belonged to him was also found.

Regarding his appearance, there are quite a lot of unused remnants left of him. Daan discovered that the texture of his face is literally the texture of Cornwall's face, but changed up. Maybe the face and even the voice of the Senor could later go to Cornwall, but it is known for sure that they are somehow connected.

Daan decided to use the Cornwall model without a beard to conditionally restore the Senor, a vest and a hat remained from him.

 1) Beta-Arthur with beta duster coat and bald Cornwall with Senor hat (Daan screen)

 

  2) Unique model (Daan: ignore chain and necktie, i couldnt remove those with rampage)

[EnergiDaan]

Complete Melvin Outfit

[Stuart Lugsden]

8 hours ago, EnergiDaan said:

Complete Melvin Outfit

I've always wondered if Arthur and Hosea wear meant to wear different outfits in that mission because doing them in regular outfits feels odd. 

[EnergiDaan]

On 12/6/2021 at 2:47 PM, RedDeadRus said:

Speaking of more finds, rollschuh2282 recently found another cut-out character who gave 5 additional cut-out missions on the Guarma — Senor Andreas Colon (or Senor Andrea Scolon, but it seems more that the first option is more accurate).

His missions could be completed both for Arthur and for John. I don't know much about his missions yet, we only know that in the first mission he seemed to meet drunk at a table in some location (it looks like there is a navmesh at this place, because when rollschuh2282 teleported to these coordinates, instead of teleporting to the surface, he falls endlessly).

Even in the last mission, he was lying on the beach, which is a remnant from Guama, where he used sketchbook and umbrella and a boat was involved.

An opium pipe that belonged to him was also found.

Regarding his appearance, there are quite a lot of unused remnants left of him. Daan discovered that the texture of his face is literally the texture of Cornwall's face, but changed up. Maybe the face and even the voice of the Senor could later go to Cornwall, but it is known for sure that they are somehow connected.

Daan decided to use the Cornwall model without a beard to conditionally restore the Senor, a vest and a hat remained from him.

 1) Beta-Arthur with beta duster coat and bald Cornwall with Senor hat (Daan screen)

 

  2) Unique model (Daan: ignore chain and necktie, i couldnt remove those with rampage)

Its not bald cornwall, it's cornwall's head model with the Senor Andreas Colon face texture, the white pants and hat are unique to him and the vest is unique too. I only the vest didnt have textures left. 

[CurtisGodfrey]

Quote

Early RDR2 HUD seen on Rockstar's GDC Making the Believable Horses video. Mini map was smaller and the Players cores were located at the top right corner.

 

Edited December 11, 2021 by CurtisGodfrey

[RedDeadRus]

On 12/11/2021 at 5:43 AM, CurtisGodfrey said:

 

The radar is very similar to RDR1, it seems they switched to it after the square radar from GTA V. In general, this screenshot reminds me very much of those black-and-white photos from patents, it seems that the same version of the build is approximate.

[Spider-Vice]

The vegetation in that video is also more reminiscent of GTA V than final RDR2.

 

Also, here's RDR2 2 months into development (according to the dev) while they were testing horses. Nothing extraordinary but still interesting to see that it was just a prototype for testing horse locomotion.  

 

 

[stag3coach2]

3 hours ago, RedDeadRus said:

 

Another thing to notice is that the trees behing Arthur look different from the ones of the final version, maybe they changed the 3d models?