The RDR2 Beta Hunt

[Vivienne]

7 minutes ago, silly_nate said:

So weird how every leak turned out to be true.

this, the map, trusted reviews...

were there any others?

This screenshot and that's all.

[Vivienne]

"Back to Gomorrah" mission

1. Bank's interior changes

2017:


Final:


- Different chair
- No bag on Atrhur's shoulder

2017:


Final:



- Different picture on wall
- No bags in vault
- No deposit boxes in vault
- No chandelier in vault

2. Downes 

2017:


Final:


- Originally guy wore a jacket
- One more score bag on the cart

3. And the most obvious change of entire mission - it was set on early morning

2017:


Final:

[Vivienne]

And i followed Fun2 recomendation to check out achivements arts. And yes, this is a holy grail of beta stuff, like it was with GTA V

The most interesting find at this moment: In the mission "The First Shall be Last" we was a little bit closer to the Blackwater? Buildings location is different. And check out Xavier.



Final:

Edited November 22, 2018 by AwkwardTwinkie

[Darealbandicoot]

You can't wear the everyday shirt like this outside of the 3 gunslinger outfits and if you try to modify it in any way it closes up the collar. 

https://imgflip.com/i/2n6k97

https://imgflip.com/i/2n6ksa

https://imgflip.com/i/2n6kv9

Edited November 22, 2018 by Darealbandicoot

[Sonny_Black]

41 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

You can't wear the everyday shirt like this outside of the 3 gunslinger outfits and if you try to modify it in any way it closes up the collar. 

https://imgflip.com/i/2n6k97

https://imgflip.com/i/2n6ksa

https://imgflip.com/i/2n6kv9

I love how the duster coat had a bulky and baggy look, a shame they changed that..

[DiEgOw_CrAzY]

Also, I coudn't find this bandana anywhere. I guess It's beta too

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2018 by DiEgOw_CrAzY

[Darealbandicoot]

1 hour ago, DiEgOw_CrAzY said:

Also, I coudn't find this bandana anywhere. I guess It's beta too

 

 

 

Yep! I was just about to point this out that it's MIGHTY strange to have a clothing section called Bandanas when only ONE bandana is in the game 

[DiEgOw_CrAzY]

On 11/22/2018 at 6:18 AM, AwkwardTwinkie said:

And i followed Fun2 recomendation to check out achivements arts. And yes, this is a holy grail of beta stuff, like it was with GTA V

The most interesting find at this moment: In the mission "The First Shall be Last" we was a little bit closer to the Blackwater? Buildings location is different. And check out Xavier.



Final:

Yes, those screens give us some details of how the game was

Edited November 25, 2018 by DiEgOw_CrAzY

[Darealbandicoot]

3 hours ago, DiEgOw_CrAzY said:

Yes, those screens give us some details of how the game was

Is it just me or does it look like the Blackwater in the social club photo is the RDR1 version but with RDR2 textures? 

[Cutter De Blanc]

1 minute ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Is it just me or does it look like the Blackwater in the social club photo is the RDR1 version but with RDR2 textures? 

Nah, still no law office built

On 11/21/2018 at 1:08 PM, Hondaslayer said:

I think I got roast beef at the saloon in Saint Denis.

You didn't they have Prime Rib

[DiEgOw_CrAzY]

6 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Yep! I was just about to point this out that it's MIGHTY strange to have a clothing section called Bandanas when only ONE bandana is in the game 

I remember when this screenshot was released, I really loved this clothing combination. Went throught the campaign guessing this bandana was selled only on Black water or Armadillo, but well, It doesn't

[Vivienne]

As i understand, we can now freely post here spoiler stuff without hidden them, yes?

I'm right now at Epilogue and found some interesting beta stuff:
 

Spoiler

1. Originally, John have from the start long hairs and had different default outfit




2. In the mission "Gainful Employment" we need to catch a guy with bald hair, but in Achivement's art he isn't bald. lol.



3. In the mission "Fatherhood, for Begginers" John and Jack never got off their horses when they were at the river. 



4. In the mission "Fatherhood, for Idiots" John in a Cowboy outfit. In the final version he will put on a suit 2 missions later.

And this mission was probably set at early morning.



5. In the mission "Jim Milton Rides, Again?" Mr. Geddes had a hat



6. In the mission "Home Improvement for Beginners" there was a cart with a roof

 

[Darealbandicoot]

5 hours ago, AwkwardTwinkie said:

As i understand, we can now freely post here spoiler stuff without hidden them, yes?

I'm right now at Epilogue and found some interesting beta stuff:
 

  Reveal hidden contents

1. Originally, John have from the start long hairs and had different default outfit




2. In the mission "Gainful Employment" we need to catch a guy with bald hair, but in Achivement's art he isn't bald. lol.



3. In the mission "Fatherhood, for Begginers" John and Jack never got off their horses when they were at the river. 



4. In the mission "Fatherhood, for Idiots" John in a Cowboy outfit. In the final version he will put on a suit 2 missions later.

And this mission was probably set at early morning.



5. In the mission "Jim Milton Rides, Again?" Mr. Geddes had a hat



6. In the mission "Home Improvement for Beginners" there was a cart with a roof

 

Makes you wonder if John's NPC hairstyle was customizable 

[DiEgOw_CrAzY]

6 hours ago, AwkwardTwinkie said:

As i understand, we can now freely post here spoiler stuff without hidden them, yes?

I'm right now at Epilogue and found some interesting beta stuff:
 

  Hide contents

1. Originally, John have from the start long hairs and had different default outfit




2. In the mission "Gainful Employment" we need to catch a guy with bald hair, but in Achivement's art he isn't bald. lol.



3. In the mission "Fatherhood, for Begginers" John and Jack never got off their horses when they were at the river. 



4. In the mission "Fatherhood, for Idiots" John in a Cowboy outfit. In the final version he will put on a suit 2 missions later.

And this mission was probably set at early morning.



5. In the mission "Jim Milton Rides, Again?" Mr. Geddes had a hat



6. In the mission "Home Improvement for Beginners" there was a cart with a roof

 

About John's hair, I've seen It and It makes me mad, because Arthur's hair on John looks really odd. Any size or style. When I saw those screens, It gave me hope, but It's anywhere to be found

Edited November 26, 2018 by DiEgOw_CrAzY

[cp1dell]

Yeah, there should at least be the option to style it as his normal hair once you reach max length.

 

 Concerning Arthur in New Austin,  it’s one thing if the lines for him completing the dinosaur bones mission exist -  but the fact that in the present game it’s actually coded to use those lines and everything says something.  Along with the official guide from the companion app, showing Arthur in the legend of the east outfit,  it makes me wonder if there’s supposed to be some legitimate way to go to New Austin as Arthur.  Why else would they still leave in this scripted sequences for Srthur completing the mission?

 

 I understand story wise why you can’t go in to Blackwater, but you should be able to just sneak around and still have access to New Austin.

[Journey_95]

2 hours ago, cp1dell said:

Yeah, there should at least be the option to style it as his normal hair once you reach max length.

 

 Concerning Arthur in New Austin,  it’s one thing if the lines for him completing the dinosaur bones mission exist -  but the fact that in the present game it’s actually coded to use those lines and everything says something.  Along with the official guide from the companion app, showing Arthur in the legend of the east outfit,  it makes me wonder if there’s supposed to be some legitimate way to go to New Austin as Arthur.  Why else would they still leave in this scripted sequences for Srthur completing the mission?

 

 I understand story wise why you can’t go in to Blackwater, but you should be able to just sneak around and still have access to New Austin.

I still hope for some DLC set before RDR2 so we can explore Blackwater + New Austin with Arthur. 

[DiEgOw_CrAzY]

3 hours ago, Journey_95 said:

I still hope for some DLC set before RDR2 so we can explore Blackwater + New Austin with Arthur. 

I wouldn't count on that, If, and is a big If, there is any sp DLC, It mostly Will be Undead nightmare 2, but you can go to Black water and New austin as Arthur through a glitch. You should do that fast, cause Rockstar will surelly patch It in no time

Edited November 26, 2018 by DiEgOw_CrAzY

[Vivienne]

On 11/26/2018 at 11:01 AM, AwkwardTwinkie said:

3. In the mission "Fatherhood, for Begginers" John and Jack never got off their horses when they were at the river. 

That's definitely cut scene, but it appears on John's flashback, where you see moments that were in the game, exclude this one



More of that, John and Jack had different default outfits here. While in achievement art Jack has the same outfit, as in the final version

Edited November 29, 2018 by AwkwardTwinkie

[Darealbandicoot]

On 11/26/2018 at 4:28 PM, cp1dell said:

Yeah, there should at least be the option to style it as his normal hair once you reach max length.

 

 Concerning Arthur in New Austin,  it’s one thing if the lines for him completing the dinosaur bones mission exist -  but the fact that in the present game it’s actually coded to use those lines and everything says something.  Along with the official guide from the companion app, showing Arthur in the legend of the east outfit,  it makes me wonder if there’s supposed to be some legitimate way to go to New Austin as Arthur.  Why else would they still leave in this scripted sequences for Srthur completing the mission?

 

 I understand story wise why you can’t go in to Blackwater, but you should be able to just sneak around and still have access to New Austin.

Just got the legend of the east outfit for Arthur thanks to the New Austin glitch. You better act fast, Rockstar have a "No fun allowed, Play how we WANT you to play" policy. Even for single player. Example is Mexico. Red Dead Online uses a different version of the Single player map yet they patched Mexico for BOTH Single player and Online. 

On 11/26/2018 at 4:28 PM, cp1dell said:

Yeah, there should at least be the option to style it as his normal hair once you reach max length.

 

 Concerning Arthur in New Austin,  it’s one thing if the lines for him completing the dinosaur bones mission exist -  but the fact that in the present game it’s actually coded to use those lines and everything says something.  Along with the official guide from the companion app, showing Arthur in the legend of the east outfit,  it makes me wonder if there’s supposed to be some legitimate way to go to New Austin as Arthur.  Why else would they still leave in this scripted sequences for Srthur completing the mission?

 

 I understand story wise why you can’t go in to Blackwater, but you should be able to just sneak around and still have access to New Austin.

Plus don't forget that Arthur can wear all the unique hats and masks you can find in New Austin, Comment on how Armadillo is a living hell, and his own version of the points of interest in the journal. Arthur's sketches and handwriting are different to John's. Arthur was obviously meant to go here. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by Darealbandicoot

[cp1dell]

I pointed out in another thread that supposedly the clear bounty cheat works for WE/NA. This could explain why Arthur “functions” in NA even though he isn’t supposed to reach the area in normal gameplay.

[jje1000]

@AwkwardTwinkie

 

What do you think of this information? Saw it floating around and I wonder if it has any legs.

 

 

It certainly lines with with the whole idea that the New Austin we see is set in 1899 (considering the size of Thieves' Landing), along with journal entries and voiced reactions from Arthur.

 

Edited November 29, 2018 by jje1000

[Darealbandicoot]

1 hour ago, jje1000 said:

@AwkwardTwinkie

 

What do you think of this information? Saw it floating around and I wonder if it has any legs.

 

 

It certainly lines with with the whole idea that the New Austin we see is set in 1899 (considering the size of Thieves' Landing), along with journal entries and voiced reactions from Arthur.

 

Sounds legit. I have a feeling that the current dead or alive status over the RDR1 map was added very late in development as Arthur has no missions at all there whearas John kind of does. 

[wagszilla]

Where can you find the companion app cut content? 

[Oldsport]

6 hours ago, jje1000 said:

@AwkwardTwinkie

 

What do you think of this information? Saw it floating around and I wonder if it has any legs.

 

 

It certainly lines with with the whole idea that the New Austin we see is set in 1899 (considering the size of Thieves' Landing), along with journal entries and voiced reactions from Arthur.

 

where can we find the models 

[jje1000]

1 hour ago, wagszilla said:

Where can you find the companion app cut content? 

 

4 minutes ago, Oldsport said:

where can we find the models 

I have no idea, I'm just conveying some information that's been discussed. There probably is some forum where this is taking place, but I never got the chance to ask.

[Atari-Dude]

1 hour ago, jje1000 said:

 

I have no idea, I'm just conveying some information that's been discussed. There probably is some forum where this is taking place, but I never got the chance to ask.

Yeah, I'd really like to see these pieces of dialogue and models, too.

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

10 hours ago, jje1000 said:

@AwkwardTwinkie

 

What do you think of this information? Saw it floating around and I wonder if it has any legs.

 

 

It certainly lines with with the whole idea that the New Austin we see is set in 1899 (considering the size of Thieves' Landing), along with journal entries and voiced reactions from Arthur.

 

I'm a bit skeptical. The leaked map from 2016 specifically marked an area of the map in the grizzlies with "Prologue" meaning that the opening took place in the mountains since 2016 if not earlier plus the fact that New Austin wasn't even included makes me think that it's actually the opposite. Instead of the prologue taking place in New Austin and then being cut for time late in development (which would somewhat contradict the 2016 map), I'd say that New Austin wasn't initially part of the game and was added later on as either fan service or to add more biomes for Red Dead Online.

 

Side note, I may be missing something but does Arthur really have lines reacting to the stuff happening in New Austin? I may be a bit out of the loop but when I saw a video of someone exploring New Austin with Arthur, he remained completely mute when talking to the prominent NPCs and when he reacted to the sick people, he just used the same dialogue as when he's talking to someone who's drunk. I heard lines like "This town is a living hell" which could be specifically for Armadillo but maybe it could be used for another town. As for the dinosaur bones dialogue, maybe the bone placement was different when New Austin wasn't in the map yet, who knows.

 

Again, I'm slightly out of the loop when it comes to Arthur in New Austin but these are just my two cents about that.  

[Emmi]

For whatever stupid reason they changed John's iconic hair starting with Epilogue 1 ... I still don't know why they'd do that to us!

[The Jungz]

On 11/26/2018 at 7:41 AM, DiEgOw_CrAzY said:

About John's hair, I've seen It and It makes me mad, because Arthur's hair on John looks really odd. Any size or style. When I saw those screens, It gave me hope, but It's anywhere to be found

On these first pictures, it looks like John's model is the 1899 one. Maybe that's why he has the classic hair and not black Goldilocks.

[jje1000]

5 hours ago, TheTechPoTaToCHIP said:

I'm a bit skeptical. The leaked map from 2016 specifically marked an area of the map in the grizzlies with "Prologue" meaning that the opening took place in the mountains since 2016 if not earlier plus the fact that New Austin wasn't even included makes me think that it's actually the opposite. Instead of the prologue taking place in New Austin and then being cut for time late in development (which would somewhat contradict the 2016 map), I'd say that New Austin wasn't initially part of the game and was added later on as either fan service or to add more biomes for Red Dead Online.

 

Side note, I may be missing something but does Arthur really have lines reacting to the stuff happening in New Austin? I may be a bit out of the loop but when I saw a video of someone exploring New Austin with Arthur, he remained completely mute when talking to the prominent NPCs and when he reacted to the sick people, he just used the same dialogue as when he's talking to someone who's drunk. I heard lines like "This town is a living hell" which could be specifically for Armadillo but maybe it could be used for another town. As for the dinosaur bones dialogue, maybe the bone placement was different when New Austin wasn't in the map yet, who knows.

Arthur does make journal entries and sketches of some of points of interest and animals (armadillo, gila monster) in New Austin as well. I still think that the size of some of the towns (I.e. Thieves Landing) point to it being set in 1899.

 

It could be the other way around, perhaps New Austin was added later on in development, and some of the points of interest (i.e. The dinosaur quest) were shifted over into New Austin to at least give John something to do.  Maybe Arthur might have been granted access to New Austin later in the campaign? 

 

I'm sure people are already digging into the game files considering that mods have already been made for jailbroken PS4s and the game's music has been ripped, but no one really knows for now- it's something that people will eventually find out, IMO.

 

Edited November 30, 2018 by jje1000