The RDR2 Beta Hunt

[Vivienne]

While we have some places from 2016 that doesn't drastically changed, Twin Stack Pass was one of those, where Rockstar was a far away from the final version even a year before the release.

2016 (jesus, how it changed):


Final [PS4]:

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2017 (there is impossible to made 1:1 shot from Trailer 2 without debug/R* Editor, so originally i shooted only Dakota River (nothing interesting, tbh) and only after noticed Twin Stack):


Final [Social Club]:

 

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Even clouds try to help me with a clear view at Twin Stack [PS4]

 

Edited November 18, 2018 by AwkwardTwinkie

[wagszilla]

That first group validated my gripes about the climatology xD

[KENNYOUT3]

there's a reason why i like the rdr1 map instead of rdr2. it feels like the wild west. i get that they were going for a different vibe with the setting. but it jus doesn't feel like the "west" when theres greenland everywhere instead of a dead sand desert colored look to everything. i mean they were obviously coloring the world the way the west would look. but then tarzan joined the art team and then it allllll went ta sh*t

Edited November 18, 2018 by KENNYOUT3

[Vivienne]

And while comparing Twin Stack with Trailer 1 and Final, i notice something interesting about characters from the first trailer.

1. Sadie

She already a gunslinger with her horse, but wears a yellow shirt, which was on her a way before that. 


Funny enough, on this may R* published a screenshot, where she wear this shirt in unknown place

Story spoiler:

Spoiler

I assume she originally was on the mission where we need to kill mafia boss, which happened in Chapter 4, where she wears this shirt

2. Charles 

In his early design he wears a jacket and shirt (?)


Ponytail propably was a default, not after some chapters


3. Xavier

Early design. Looks more stylish, then in final


4. Lenny

Early design, not that much changed, as i believe, but still


5. Micah and Xavier wears a clothes from Chapter 1, which they will never use again


 

[KENNYOUT3]

7 minutes ago, AwkwardTwinkie said:

And while comparing Twin Stack with Trailer 1 and Final, i notice something interesting about characters from the first trailer.

1. Sadie

She already a gunslinger with her horse, but wears a yellow shirt, which was on her a way before that. 


Funny enough, on this may R* published a screenshot, where she wear this shirt in unknown place

Story spoiler:

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I assume she originally was on the mission where we need to kill mafia boss, which happened in Chapter 4, where she wears this shirt

2. Charles 

In his early design he wears a jacket and shirt (?)


Ponytail propably was a default, not after some chapters


3. Xavier

Early design. Looks more stylish, then in final


4. Lenny

Early design, not that much changed, as i believe, but still


5. Micah and Xavier wears a clothes from Chapter 1, which they will never use again


 

this backs up my earlier theory about charles hair being like that ever since the beginning and not jus after a certain chapter

Edited November 18, 2018 by KENNYOUT3

[Tez2]

In the leaked online intro picture, the trees and rocks look horrible.

Spoiler

It's not surprising as the pic was taken during the mid-development period.

Notice the rocks, they look the same as GTA V

You can go to the same location and compare the two.

Edited November 18, 2018 by Fun 2

[Pepperjack]

1 hour ago, Fun 2 said:

In the leaked online intro picture, the trees and rocks look horrible.

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It's not surprising as the pic was taken during the mid-development period.

Notice the rocks, they look the same as GTA V

You can go to the same location and compare the two.

Well its just the achievement art so it doesn't really matter

[Tez2]

9 minutes ago, Pepperjack said:

Well its just the achievement art so it doesn't really matter

It's like the story feed pics, taken in-game.

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People are comparing trailers here, I don't see how's that different from this.

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

I think we should establish that we should take events, missions and gameplay happening in different locations and times within the trailers with a grain of salt. All too often do I see a "mission x originally took place in location y according to the trailer". While some of those might be legit beta changes, at lot of those are likely Rockstar changing the location specifically for the trailers in order to hide spoilers or to make the shot look better. (Agent Milton in Balckwater in RDR II's Second Trailer, The ending cutscene of GTA V being re-purposed to look like it's taking place during Blitz Play during the gameplay trailer and stuff like that) Marvel does this all the time with filming scenes specifically for trailers. I mean I think it's still cool to point out these changes but I just don't want people thinking these changes were made in the beta. 

[Vivienne]

On 11/19/2018 at 4:13 AM, Fun 2 said:

In the leaked online intro picture, the trees and rocks look horrible.

  Reveal hidden contents

It's not surprising as the pic was taken during the mid-development period.

Notice the rocks, they look the same as GTA V

You can go to the same location and compare the two.

Ok

Leaked:


Final:

[wagszilla]

This is kind of a no-sh*t thing if you read the leaked stuff.

 

But several towns have a dude in-front of a little kiosk shop with scales in front of it.

 

He was prob the guy you'd take your Gold Ore in exchange for money.

 

I wonder if the mining community and Beryl's Dream and whatever the last gang hideout was were originally gonna be more fleshed out.

[TableTennisChamp]

On 11/19/2018 at 9:22 PM, AwkwardTwinkie said:

Ok

Leaked:


Final:

What I'm wondering is what is going to be removed or downgraded to facilitate 32 players? I remember GTA online had some differences with street signs, lights, and other various objects being removed in Los Santos when compared to singleplayer. Another obvious difference was the lack of animals and less pedestrians of course.

Edited November 21, 2018 by AddamHusayin

[Jabalous]

"You have to love yourself a fire" speech of Dutch in Trailer #3. Anyone heard it in the game? If not, then it's Beta content, or was made for the trailer only. 

[Darealbandicoot]

11 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

"You have to love yourself a fire" speech of Dutch in Trailer #3. Anyone heard it in the game? If not, then it's Beta content, or was made for the trailer only. 

That's not Dutch it's a speech Reverend Swanson says at the campfire randomly in chapter 2.

[rollschuh2282]

35 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

That's not Dutch it's a speech Reverend Swanson says at the campfire randomly in chapter 2.

Yep.

@luke73tnt i told you it isn't dutch 

[Ehrmantraut]

I think this thread should be tagged as spoiler but anyway.

 

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In the released game, even though you can start the dinossaur's bones side-mission (A Test of Faith) with Arthur, only John can finish it, since there's bones in New Austin too. However, as you can see in the video below, there's lines recorded in case you somehow finish the mission with Arthur, probably hinting that Arthur was able to enter New Austin in the beta (or there was no bones in New Austin)

 

Starts in 8:43

 

 

Does the scene below ever happens in the game? It's probably from a campfire reunion, not a mission, but I can't seem to remember this happening.

You can see in the trailer 3 starting in 0:40

 

[KENNYOUT3]

GTA Series Videos found that if u glitch to new austin u can still collect all the dinosaur bones as arthur. theres even audio recorded for arthur in the final cutscene FOR completing this mission. crazy

 

 

 8:48

[Sonny_Black]

17 minutes ago, KENNYOUT3 said:

GTA Series Videos found that if u glitch to new austin u can still collect all the dinosaur bones as arthur. theres even audio recorded for arthur in the final cutscene FOR completing this mission. crazy

 

 

 8:48

It's like those screenshots and gameplay clips where Arthur is seen in Black Water and Tall Trees.

He was definitely supposed to go there at one point, sadly they changed that.

Edited November 21, 2018 by anthony

[Psyperactive81]

On 10/31/2018 at 12:49 AM, AwkwardTwinkie said:

Glad someone made this thread!

I *found the place from old leaked screenshot

???-2016



2018
 

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*I actually tried to find this place, but after 30 minutes of search i realized that it was place from a mission, which was already marked on my map, lol

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this is from one of the Stranger Missions, where you hunt for the 4 gunslingers for an interview. (can't remember the name of the mission)

 

[Darealbandicoot]

59 minutes ago, Mafia Assassin® said:

I think this thread should be tagged as spoiler but anyway.

 

  Hide contents

In the released game, even though you can start the dinossaur's bones side-mission (A Test of Faith) with Arthur, only John can finish it, since there's bones in New Austin too. However, as you can see in the video below, there's lines recorded in case you somehow finish the mission with Arthur, probably hinting that Arthur was able to enter New Austin in the beta (or there was no bones in New Austin)

 

Starts in 8:43

 

 

Does the scene below ever happens in the game? It's probably from a campfire reunion, not a mission, but I can't seem to remember this happening.

You can see in the trailer 3 starting in 0:40

 

Yep I heard that in game. Its chapter 2 as well 

Also, Arthur has clothes ONLY available in New Austin with New Austin specific names. He even reacts to sick people in Armadillo. 

[Vivienne]

On 11/19/2018 at 8:18 PM, TheTechPoTaToCHIP said:

I think we should establish that we should take events, missions and gameplay happening in different locations and times within the trailers with a grain of salt. All too often do I see a "mission x originally took place in location y according to the trailer". While some of those might be legit beta changes, at lot of those are likely Rockstar changing the location specifically for the trailers in order to hide spoilers or to make the shot look better. (Agent Milton in Balckwater in RDR II's Second Trailer, The ending cutscene of GTA V being re-purposed to look like it's taking place during Blitz Play during the gameplay trailer and stuff like that) Marvel does this all the time with filming scenes specifically for trailers. I mean I think it's still cool to point out these changes but I just don't want people thinking these changes were made in the beta. 

While they made decent job to hide spoilers in trailers, this official screenshots kinda *spoiles game's biggest twist:

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*Spoiles, if you on Chapter 6 and remember this screens, like me
 

4 hours ago, anthony said:

It's like those screenshots and gameplay clips where Arthur is seen in Black Water and Tall Trees.

He was definitely supposed to go there at one point, sadly they changed that.

Those screenshots and clips were definitely made to avoid spoilers. I didn't finished the epilogue yet, but maybe strangers and findings from Armadillo and New Austin were originally in Arthur territory? Because i remember in 2016 leak there was said, that you 

Spoiler

play as John in Epilogue. So R* probably knew from the start, that Artur will not visit places far then Blackwater, but later they decided to gave Arthur's content to John.

 

[Cutter De Blanc]

A little thing, but Arthur also has lines recorded for ordering the Roast Beef in the Tumbleweed Saloon

 

Unless some other Saloon sells roast beef too

Edited November 21, 2018 by Cutter De Blanc

[Hondaslayer]

I think I got roast beef at the saloon in Saint Denis.

[wagszilla]

7 hours ago, Mafia Assassin® said:

I think this thread should be tagged as spoiler but anyway.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

In the released game, even though you can start the dinossaur's bones side-mission (A Test of Faith) with Arthur, only John can finish it, since there's bones in New Austin too. However, as you can see in the video below, there's lines recorded in case you somehow finish the mission with Arthur, probably hinting that Arthur was able to enter New Austin in the beta (or there was no bones in New Austin)

 

Starts in 8:43

 

 

Does the scene below ever happens in the game? It's probably from a campfire reunion, not a mission, but I can't seem to remember this happening.

You can see in the trailer 3 starting in 0:40

 

 

9 hours ago, Jabalous said:

"You have to love yourself a fire" speech of Dutch in Trailer #3. Anyone heard it in the game? If not, then it's Beta content, or was made for the trailer only. 

I made a post compiling all the Trailer quotes and attaching the mission/chapter/etc it relates to.

 

I’m missing one or two but most are there

 

The camp story from Hosea happens in Clements Point.

 

Full Post here:

 

[Ehrmantraut]

7 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Yep I heard that in game. Its chapter 2 as well 

Also, Arthur has clothes ONLY available in New Austin with New Austin specific names. He even reacts to sick people in Armadillo. 

It's a minor thing, but what caught my attention is that Sadie was not using that outfit while Sean was still in the gang

 

18 minutes ago, wagszilla said:

The camp story from Hosea happens in Clements Point.

Interesting, I'll try to see this story, since I'm on chapter 3.

[Hondaslayer]

1 hour ago, Hondaslayer said:

I think I got roast beef at the saloon in Saint Denis.

Ignore me, I went there again. I must have ordered Prime Rib.

[Sonny_Black]

5 hours ago, AwkwardTwinkie said:

Because i remember in 2016 leak there was said, that you

What was this leak exactly? and was it legit?

[Vivienne]

2 hours ago, anthony said:

What was this leak exactly? and was it legit?

It was on Reddit and after few trailers people start to believe it. It was definitely legit.

Recap of that leak: https://www.dualshockers.com/red-dead-redemption-2-leak-2016-true/

Edited November 22, 2018 by AwkwardTwinkie

[Sonny_Black]

20 minutes ago, AwkwardTwinkie said:

It was on Reddit and after few trailers people start to believe it. It was definitely legit.

Recap of that leak: https://www.dualshockers.com/red-dead-redemption-2-leak-2016-true/

Interesting, yes I see..they had somehow planned to 'make disappear' Arthur and put John as playable after the story since some times then.

[silly_nate]

2 hours ago, AwkwardTwinkie said:

It was on Reddit and after few trailers people start to believe it. It was definitely legit.

Recap of that leak: https://www.dualshockers.com/red-dead-redemption-2-leak-2016-true/

So weird how every leak turned out to be true.

this, the map, trusted reviews...

were there any others?