Bounty system

[guardian1816]

So I have been looking high and low and I havent been able to find a way around this problem.   I am early in the game and one incident caused me to have a several hundred dollar bounty in one of the areas.  Is there a way around this or is this area basically shut down for me until I come up with that amount of cash?

[Mach1bud]

I believe you can surrender and spend time in jail.

[guardian1816]

3 minutes ago, Mach1bud said:

I believe you can surrender and spend time in jail.

If you know how to go about doing that I am listening, but I just tried walking up to them unarmed and they shot me without question...also tried to switch to unarmed and open a chat dialogue, he will draw his gun.   I have tried getting killed, nope.  Turning myself into the police department (they could care less).  I have spent a couple hours on google and nobody even hints at anything outside of paying it.  They seriously need to put another system in place, like, shouldnt the bounty hunters I run in to every couple minutes be able to, ya know, claim the bounty??

[Mach1bud]

36 minutes ago, guardian1816 said:

If you know how to go about doing that I am listening, but I just tried walking up to them unarmed and they shot me without question...also tried to switch to unarmed and open a chat dialogue, he will draw his gun.   I have tried getting killed, nope.  Turning myself into the police department (they could care less).  I have spent a couple hours on google and nobody even hints at anything outside of paying it.  They seriously need to put another system in place, like, shouldnt the bounty hunters I run in to every couple minutes be able to, ya know, claim the bounty??

I will check in the strategy guide and get back to you if you don't figure it out by then.

[SuperD123]

I agree there needs to be a better system in place, every time i try and surrender they just kill me anyway.

[Mach1bud]

Looked it up in the guide. You are basically screwed until you get the money to pay you're bounty. You can only surrender if you have committed low severity crimes. 

[Pocket Fox]

10 hours ago, SuperD123 said:

I agree there needs to be a better system in place, every time i try and surrender they just kill me anyway.

 

Especially given the controls are very chaotic.

 

Someone said hi, I went to reply and aimed my gun at them "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!"

20 dollar bounty.

 

3 O'Driscalls call me out in the street, get to beating on me, I shoot them. "aaahhh get the sheriff!!!"

70 dollar bounty

 

An O'Driscall calls me out. I face them, and defuse. They keep on mouthing off, walk over and start punching me up. I punch them back "aahhhhh get the sheriff!!"

10 dollar bounty

 

My horse is in auto-run in cinematic mode, I collide with another person on horseback. Our horses fall over, they get up and start shooting me, I shoot them back. "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!!"

30 dollar bounty

 

I'm not even playing a villian, but I keep getting bounties on me for simple misunderstandings or just weird controls.

[guardian1816]

6 hours ago, Pocket Fox said:

 

Especially given the controls are very chaotic.

 

Someone said hi, I went to reply and aimed my gun at them "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!"

20 dollar bounty.

 

3 O'Driscalls call me out in the street, get to beating on me, I shoot them. "aaahhh get the sheriff!!!"

70 dollar bounty

 

An O'Driscall calls me out. I face them, and defuse. They keep on mouthing off, walk over and start punching me up. I punch them back "aahhhhh get the sheriff!!"

10 dollar bounty

 

My horse is in auto-run in cinematic mode, I collide with another person on horseback. Our horses fall over, they get up and start shooting me, I shoot them back. "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!!"

30 dollar bounty

 

I'm not even playing a villian, but I keep getting bounties on me for simple misunderstandings or just weird controls.

*For me* a couple hours into free roam. Get into a fight because retard walked in front of my horse   "ahhh get the sheriff!!"   HAHA  chase down the witness...whoops  he dead and now there are three witnesses.  Crap, well time to run, I got sh*t to do in this town and I have stuff on me and the horse so I dont go far...crap they find me.   Forced to defend myself because horse perma killed, which pisses me off.   Manage to get a bunch of them.  Yay?...crap I have a $350 bounty and $30 to my name.

 

WORD OF ADVICE:  Dont loot bodies near a town

 

I finally "fixed" 1 area after several hours of gameplay.  Ended up progressing the story a LOT for money.  They really need a new bounty system...I like what they were trying to do, but not what they did.  Needs some slight tweaks.

[JumpingKentFlash]

I don’t wanna be a bad guy, but I become one very quickly. I’m wanted everywhere from Valentine to Saint Denis by several hundred dollars. But you can do jail time and get the bounty off your head that way. When the lawmen appear, be unarmed and stand still. They’ll aim at you and one of them will run up to you and punch you out. Then you’re in the jail and when you get out there’s no bounty. 

It’s possible as long as you don’t try to run, don’t have weapons drawn and just stand still basically. Of course it’s a hassle to go through the jail cutscene, but it’s better to do that a few times than to look over your shoulder everywhere you go. 

 

Ive been trying to play this as I did in RDR1, but this game is very different from that. Different games, different approaches I guess.

[djb204]

I’ve spent hundreds of dollars trying to reset my West Elizabeth bounty but it always accumulates again. Blackwater, Greatplains, and Tall Trees are apart of West a Elizabeth so maybe the fact that the wanted level in these areas doesn’t go away is part of it? If so I shouldn’t have the option to pay and waste money on a bounty that won’t change anyway. Am I missing something?

[Lonely-Martin]

2 minutes ago, djb204 said:

I’ve spent hundreds of dollars trying to reset my West Elizabeth bounty but it always accumulates again. Blackwater, Greatplains, and Tall Trees are apart of West a Elizabeth so maybe the fact that the wanted level in these areas doesn’t go away is part of it? If so I shouldn’t have the option to pay and waste money on a bounty that won’t change anyway. Am I missing something?

West Elisabeth had a permanent bounty on the player until a certain point. 

[djb204]

1 minute ago, Lonely-Martin said:

West Elisabeth had a permanent bounty on the player until a certain point. 

Yes I’m aware, but paying that bounty is an option (which shouldn’t be). When I first played I had a $400 bounty in West Elizabeth. I paid it, but it did nothing. The game took my money though. I’m just suggesting that if paying it does nothing, then having the option to pay it shouldn’t exist. 

[Lonely-Martin]

Just now, djb204 said:

Yes I’m aware, but paying that bounty is an option (which shouldn’t be). When I first played I had a $400 bounty in West Elizabeth. I paid it, but it did nothing. The game took my money though. I’m just suggesting that if paying it does nothing, then having the option to pay it shouldn’t exist. 

Ahh, my bad. Yeah should say not available, lol.

[Pocket Fox]

The sheriff in Valentine told me to leave...no reason. So I went 'defuse' and walked back to my horse. As I rode away (and by him) he shouts out, about me breaking the law for something and like 10 ppl pull guns on me.

 

And now Rockstar, being so clever with their controls make Left Trigger a requirement to both talk to people and converse....and point your heckin gun at them. Cuz yeah, why not? Like making a car with one pedal, it's both the brakes and the accelerator.

 

So I press LT, AIM the gun at the sheriff, rather than talk and surrender....

 

So, a heckin massacre proceeds to take place. 90 dollar bounty.

 

I think I have earned like 150 on bounties for criminals and spent about 500-700 on my own bounties and I am not going on shooting sprees, I am roleplaying a paragon ffs. This bounty system and the controls are atrocious. Left trigger to both talk to someone or point your god damn gun at them. On horseback press left bumper to PUT MY GUN AWAY...oh...it's also the button to PULL A BIGGER GUN OUT!!   aaahhhh!!!! 

 

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[Trashdog1999]

I agree it’s ridiculous. Every little thing you do there is a witness running to get the law. Steal a ramdom horse, Npc calling the law. Like how do they even know whether the horse is yours or not. And it’s seems like there is an endless supply of sheriffs in the this “Wild West” and even after you get into a shoutout with them and they end up killing you the bounty stays on you. 

[fryday]

in rdr1 you could cover your face with the bandana before committing a crime, but when i do this in rdr2, i will still loose honor, why?

[Bother]

I'm about 25% of the way through the story and have finally reached a point of exasperation with the bounty system. OK, so I took a train to St. Denis, ended up killing a bunch of people (with no bandana), and got smacked with a $225 bounty. Fair enough. But, for example, when rescuing Micah from the jail in Strawberry, a job that I didn't even want to do, he started killing lawman indiscriminately, and the mission then prompted me to do the same thing in order to escape... after fighting our way out I got hit with a $250 bounty! Despite wearing a bandana the whole time. I should've been able to demand that Micah pay, or at least kill him out of spite or something... but when I got back to camp nobody even said anything about it! Like it didn't even happen. I paid the bounty as I thought it was a one-off, but it keeps happening... Just robbed the train with John, robbed some passengers, ended up killing the lawmen (who were shooting on us), and bam... $75 bounty. Despite wearing a bandana, and it being the middle of the night.

It doesn't make any sense. I love the immersive slow style of the free-roam game, but the interplay between the missions and bounty system is driving me crazy. They have to fix it, surely. Right now all I want to do is wander around minding my own business. Not much of an outlaw...

[Fidzy]

On 10/28/2018 at 8:45 AM, Pocket Fox said:

 

Especially given the controls are very chaotic.

 

Someone said hi, I went to reply and aimed my gun at them "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!"

20 dollar bounty.

 

3 O'Driscalls call me out in the street, get to beating on me, I shoot them. "aaahhh get the sheriff!!!"

70 dollar bounty

 

An O'Driscall calls me out. I face them, and defuse. They keep on mouthing off, walk over and start punching me up. I punch them back "aahhhhh get the sheriff!!"

10 dollar bounty

 

My horse is in auto-run in cinematic mode, I collide with another person on horseback. Our horses fall over, they get up and start shooting me, I shoot them back. "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!!"

30 dollar bounty

 

I'm not even playing a villian, but I keep getting bounties on me for simple misunderstandings or just weird controls.

Hahaha I know your pain. I caught some O'Driscalls robbing some poor old man in Valentine so I shot them up and got a bounty for it, I also started a bar fight in Valentine with some mountain man and accidentally killed him, receiving another bounty. To top it off, I got a red 'scanning' zone randomly out of the blue so I wonder if lawmen found some bodies I hid hours earlier.

I've only got a $250 bounty in New Hanover but Jesus it's hard to earn cash to pay it off, I'm sick of fighting off bounty hunters every 20 minutes.

[Lock n' Stock]

I think it's kind of bullsh*t how surrendering is only a thing at lower bounties. In the original you could simply just holster your weapon and stand still. Not sure why they did away with this.

[Sonny_Black]

On 10/28/2018 at 4:45 PM, Pocket Fox said:

 

Especially given the controls are very chaotic.

 

Someone said hi, I went to reply and aimed my gun at them "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!"

20 dollar bounty.

 

3 O'Driscalls call me out in the street, get to beating on me, I shoot them. "aaahhh get the sheriff!!!"

70 dollar bounty

 

An O'Driscall calls me out. I face them, and defuse. They keep on mouthing off, walk over and start punching me up. I punch them back "aahhhhh get the sheriff!!"

10 dollar bounty

 

My horse is in auto-run in cinematic mode, I collide with another person on horseback. Our horses fall over, they get up and start shooting me, I shoot them back. "aahhhh get the sheriff!!!!"

30 dollar bounty

 

I'm not even playing a villian, but I keep getting bounties on me for simple misunderstandings or just weird controls.

-If a feller is kind and says hi, and then you aim a gun at him, what do you expect?

-Yes usually you can't just murder someone and get away with it if people sees you, people and the law does not care if you are defending yourself. But if you fight with them by hand, and knocked them out you will not be wanted and people with stay out of your business.

-Not true, you don't get wanted by defending yourself with you hands.

-If there was anybody around and if you killed that person, I can't see how you got wanted.

 

In any case, If you can't figure how to learn the controls, it's on you..not the game.

Edited October 30, 2018 by anthony

[guardian1816]

Man, I was riding around minding my own business and trying to get the challenge of dragging somebody 3300 feet with a lasso.  Some random guy came by and saw it...that jerk called the cops!  Complete BS  

[White Shark]

Lol what are you guys doing?! You're like a bunch of bumbling criminals or way too trigger happy.

 

But I do get where you're coming from. I guess I'm just a much more slower paced, relaxed gamer in RDR2. 

[Pocket Fox]

6 hours ago, anthony said:

-If a feller is kind and says hi, and then you aim a gun at him, what do you expect?

-Yes usually you can't just murder someone and get away with it if people sees you, people and the law does not care if you are defending yourself. But if you fight with them by hand, and knocked them out you will not be wanted and people with stay out of your business.

-Not true, you don't get wanted by defending yourself with you hands.

-If there was anybody around and if you killed that person, I can't see how you got wanted.

 

In any case, If you can't figure how to learn the controls, it's on you..not the game.

 

-LB to holster gun while on horse. LB is also to remove rifle from your horse. So when I go LB, LT thinking; holster pistol and begin conversation. Instead, I pull out a rifle and aim at him. Not exactly favorable lol.

 

-3 guys screaming they'll kill you and beating the crap out of you. Well, it's a videogame. If we want to play realism, then why doesn't the sheriff come in and arrest them for beating on me. 

 

-Thanks for telling me what did and did not happen in my game. So this is a glitch then? Like the time I sat down to play 5 finger fillet and my hud disappeared and I couldn't stand up, had to reload a savegame. An O'Driscall calls me out, I select defuse and stand there, he walks over and punches me, I then punch him back and knock him dead. Wanted! I've also been held up on the road by bandits/gang members by a woman pretending to be injured, only to have her try and rob me. I refused to pay her money, she shot at me, I shot her. When a rider comes along they investigated it as a crime scene.

 

-Horses collide in cinematic mode, the other rider starts shooting at me. I shoot back, kill them. I get on my horse, pet her. Then another rider comes along and I get the whole a witness is approaching etc.

 

I'm not having a cry "game is too hard, game is so buggy" I'm sharing my experiences. The controls are chaotic, R* has added a lot of depth and interaction to this game and there's simply a limitation with how much you can put into a controller. This can make for some clumsy circumstances, such as holding a pistol on horseback and tapping LB to holster, instead pulls out a rifle. I'm having fun, despite the crowded control system and bugs; even the game breaking bugs that force a savegame to be reloaded because Arthur got stuck in a chair.

 

The game is fantastic, a masterpiece, but it's not some flawless diamond or without it's faults, bugs or some poor design choices here and there. Sorry, that seems to upset some.

[Sonny_Black]

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3 guys screaming they'll kill you and beating the crap out of you. Well, it's a videogame. If we want to play realism, then why doesn't the sheriff come in and arrest them for beating on me. 

If the sheriff was here he would have probably shoot them..I've read here a few days ago, that after an altercation in the saloon the bartender pulled out a weapon and shot Arthur, the sheriff was just arriving and then shot the bartender. In any case, I knocked out some fellers like that and I've never been wanted, unless you kick them when they are on the ground and it's considered as a murder.

 

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I've also been held up on the road by bandits/gang members by a woman pretending to be injured, only to have her try and rob me. I refused to pay her money, she shot at me, I shot her. When a rider comes along they investigated it as a crime scene.

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 the other rider starts shooting at me. I shoot back, kill them. I get on my horse, pet her. Then another rider comes along and I get the whole a witness is approaching etc.

I've been in a similar situation where I shot a guy in Lemoyne talking sh*t near some road signs, I shot him directly then I looted him. Just a few moments later, a rider came along, did not have any problem, he just ride away.

But then, a different situation with a lot of bodies; some bounty hunters tracked me so I was hiding behind a rock to ambush them, but at the same time a rider come and arrive cautiously at the scene with a rifle in his hand. Same as the other situation, did not have any problem with this rider.

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The controls are chaotic

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-LB to holster gun while on horse. LB is also to remove rifle from your horse. So when I go LB, LT thinking; holster pistol and begin conversation. Instead, I pull out a rifle and aim at him. Not exactly favorable lol.

I don't get it, LB/L1 is used to pulled out and holster weapons whether you are on your horse or on foot, LT/L2 is used to aim when a weapon is equipped and aim at someone to interact with when you don't have any weapons equipped. I don't see the issue.

[Gallows]

On 10/29/2018 at 7:36 AM, fryday said:

in rdr1 you could cover your face with the bandana before committing a crime, but when i do this in rdr2, i will still loose honor, why?

Because Honor is your personality. You also lose Honor when stealing even though you are not caught.

[guardian1816]

2 hours ago, anthony said:

If the sheriff was here he would have probably shoot them..I've read here a few days ago, that after an altercation in the saloon the bartender pulled out a weapon and shot Arthur, the sheriff was just arriving and then shot the bartender. In any case, I knocked out some fellers like that and I've never been wanted, unless you kick them when they are on the ground and it's considered as a murder.

 

 

There might be something to this, I have never spent anytime trying to science this particular point, but in Valentine one day I needed to die for some odd reason.  So I walked up and started antagonizing some random dude.  Finally, he pulled a gun on me and the law mowed him down and left me alone.