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Spider-Vice

RDR2 Appreciation Thread

Spider-Vice

This is a positive thread. Use the "Constructive Criticism" thread to complain about the game.

 

Have a question? Please use the "RDR2 Quick Questions" thread.

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j850

So far, I am enjoying the game very much and love to play single player with mods to make it more fun.

On 1/6/2020 at 12:37 PM, Marcinguy said:

I recently jumped into the SP to mess around and do the new bounties on PS4. I realized that I really missed the essence of this game while playing online. SP is like riding through a real time recreation of an Ansel Adams photo set. It's truly the most beautiful game world created up to this point in my opinion. It seems that the graphics online are a bit downgraded overall, which is a shame, but there is always the SP mode to soak it all in. I've recently been exploring the area west of Tumbleweed and reminded myself why it's one my favorite all time games.

 Yeah I play SP 99% of the time, it is really a great game for being singleplayer.

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On 3/19/2020 at 9:37 PM, Mister Pink said:

Very nicely put.

 

I can't remember what it's like to play as John as I haven't got to the epilogue and it's been a few years since I played RDR. But I agree, Arthur for me, has my favourite Rockstar protagonist now. I really felt I could identify with him. He's rogue, a badass but he has that conscience and some sort of a moral compass that evolves and matures. I think one of the lines that Arthur says to Marston is like "remember, it wad Dutched that changed, not us." While that might feel true, Arthur definitely changed and whether it was his own mortality knocking on this door other just getting older and wiser, it was a great character-arc. 

 

Whatever they did to write RDR2, I do hope they continue it. I would rate RDR's tale up there with all the great writing I've watched in TV shows like The Wire, The Sopranos. Boardwalk Empire.I think the story is so well crafted that it would be hard for them to f*ck up a series. I could definitely watch a beautiful TV series, based in the RDR universe. 

It's awesome you've been able to do a year long plus walkthrough. I'm sure the whole story has likely been spoiled for you, and being a moderator doesn't help, and ME mentioning spoilers in this thread so nonchalantly doesn't help either. lol.

 

For, me personally, I already kind of predicted a lot of it, as a lot of us likely did. The leaked map gave a lot away actually. But, what amazes me about Rockstar's games, is that the replays for me are always much better than the first playthrough. It's like I have no big question I need answered. I have no sunset I'm chasing, I just lose myself in the world and all the little things start to feel important, and the story kind of lingers in the background while I create my own journey through the world.

 

It's like rewatching the Sopranos. the first time through I just became gripped on the Mafia stuff, the murders, the black humour, and was excited to see what happened next. The next time I watched the whole series I focused on a lot of dialogue that can be easily missed, and lot of the jokes became funnier because I knew the characters and the situations more, and a lot of the murders and season finales were more of a cathartic release from all the great stuff in-between all of that.

 

The third rewatch of the whole series was a revelation. All the family drama that I at times in the past found boring seemed like the real genius of the show. I swear there's a dinner scene, with the whole family, including Uncle Junior and the Mouth of Darkness herself Livia, maybe episode 2, where the back and forth between the family, and the camera cuts, are so fluid and rhythmic it's like "watching" music. There is no dinner scene in the history of television that is more fascinating, absurd, yet utterly realistic.

 

Anyway, there's a scene/joke in the Sopranos that captures what I love about the show AND Red Dead Redemption 2, which I want to mention quickly, seeing as there's lot of Sopranos fans on this forum.

 

In the Pilot, Tony asks Junior if he's still coming to Anthony Junior's birthday party. There's a line where Tony says, "Now don't buy anything expensive, we're not going to spoil this kid."

 

Then in the third episode, filmed I think at least a year after the pilot, Uncle Junior is complaining to his no 2 Mickey about Tony. And there's this wonderful line at the end of his rant: "You know I bought that son of his a 300 dollar surfboard!?" The scene cuts right there and I fell in love with the show. 

 

Here was a joke, a throwaway line in a way, very easy to miss and not take in, that is set up in the pilot, at a time where the creators of the show couldn't foresee the show being picked up for a full series, which finally has a punchline, a pay off, two whole episodes later. The creators remembered the set up, they remembered to give us the punchline, they didn't insult our intelligence. 

 

And that is why RDR 2 is my favourite game in a long, long time. It's slow as hell like the Sopranos, because it has so much detail. The more you play it, the more it gives you, the more patient you are with it, the more patient the game is with you and your journey. It never insults your intelligence.

 

Yeah, there are glitches, some lazy bits here and there, some retconning here and there which originally annoyed me. Yet there is still no story on this medium quite like it. It's almost archaic in nature. No other developer writes like that anymore. Everything is so fast now. Or I'm just old and slow, I don't know.

 

Two and a half playthroughs and I come on this forum and still see people mention stuff I never saw or heard once in the game. I'm still drawn to it after 6 months of trying to avoid it and play other games. To the point where I'm ready to ditch my current game and start over again.

 

Here's hoping you can get another year plus playthrough out of this game, or the next. Here's hoping I can get another 3 month play through out of it, and I'm sure I will. Probably starting tonight.

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CASH_BONE

I lent my copy of RDR2 to a friend a few weeks before corona lockdown and now i have no chance to get it back for a least another 3 weeks and im getting itchy to play again, for the first time i wished i'd have bought a digital version of the game lol. 99% of games i drop after i completed the story and don't play again for a few years but i'm desperate to get back into this after only a few months since playing it last

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Adrenalist

To improve is rudimentary, to prefect divine. 
 

I’ve spent 3-5 hundred hours from the free roam post up following ch1. I spent the first 50 doing a light tread unfog and exploration, followed by a foot-by-foot and only have transversed about a third of the map on the eastern, heading west. 
 

The thought that has been put into everything is unbelievable. 
 

The animals - You guys went from a handful to a real life representation in a single gen. The amount of heart that was put into this openly refutes the mockery presented to us on other platforms. 
 

The loot - The expansion of loot hasn’t been easy for R*. Environment>Loot. But there still is a growth in RDR2 that needs acknowledgement. The quality>quantity when it comes to presentation. It has a result that makes the user feel like items weren’t thrown in just for the sake of variety. I hope that trend continues. 
 

Horses couldn’t be better. They just couldn’t. 
 

The chaos of nature is absolutely perfected. 
 

The elbows on everyone are 100% perfect. It’s the first game I’ve played where someone took the time to get the geometry right on elbows. 
 

The ladder system is improved in a major way. I fell to my death about 33.3% of the time when trying to snag a chute before air time in V, but I know I’d never have that issue again. Well done. 
 

Sounds are superb. Music hasn’t gotten old yet. Witcher 3 would be the runner up on background music I almost never tired of, but even that music got old to me. I still have yet to want to turn RDR2 off because the music is getting old. 

 

The sky is perfect. 
 

The waters and their reflection.. perfect. 
 

The people, conversations, and number of unique faces are certainly improved.

 

But the environment takes precedence here. And it has been executed brilliantly. The crunching of snow, the falling of snow off branches, the rumble of cacti, the road system can easily confuse when going a different direction from a well known route. Every building is unique. And it takes a keen eye to establish reused trees. I really had to look for it to see it. It was perfect. 
 

It’s been an honor to explore this game, my 30 seconds spent roaming by each tree doesn’t even come close to the time of what each dev spent in the same spot. I honestly feel like I’m not giving enough time to enjoy the work that’s been put into this game. And I’m giving a ton. It’s a wonderful thing, really. You’ve executed a diabolical plan on making 99% of the users feel inadequate. 😆 Brilliant. 
 

It reminds me of when everyone was complaining about getting 100% and the “100%” bar got lowered. Now I don’t think I’ve watched a tutorial on YouTube without some fog on the map. 😏 These two things have been two of a few of the greatest trolling escapades from R*. At least to me. 
 

In closing, every time I give this disc a spin, I’m awestruck. It simply doesn’t get old. It may never. And as familiarity becomes accomplishment in itself, it’s a feat that continues to amaze. 
 

Never reject the uphill. While the growth has been exponential, it still needs continuous growth to survive. If it isn’t growing... it is dying. Much love. 

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SneakyDeaky
Posted (edited)

Just had the best random shootout ever.

 

Was in Rhodes saloon, chapter 2, two Raiders come to the bar to tell me to leave, a Gray is at the other end of the bar, but I'm not leaving because I want to eat and sleep, so i try to ignore it. He keeps telling me to leave, it starts to piss me off. I go to antagonize him, but I screw up with my controller and I end up antagonizing the Gray. I don't quite know what happened next, but suddenly both are shooting at me, but they miss, and a Raider shoots the Gray, and all hell breaks loose between them. 

 

Me, two Raiders and two grays end up shooting the whole place to hell. I ran to the balcony upstairs, thinking I could escape and jump onto my horse - doesn't work lol. I had to run out, hipfire and all, through the saloon as bullets were flying.

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Cutter De Blanc
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I got super lucky and finally busted out Susan in poker. Went all in first shot out of the box, she called my bluff and I won with an Ace high. Seems like it's the only way to beat her.

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DEADWOODZ

This is pretty incredible!

 

 

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PuerAzaelis

How do you guys take all these incredible vids from these different perspectives?

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SneakyDeaky
On 5/7/2020 at 5:25 PM, Cutter De Blanc said:

I got super lucky and finally busted out Susan in poker. Went all in first shot out of the box, she called my bluff and I won with an Ace high. Seems like it's the only way to beat her.

Seeing as you brought it up who can we play Poker with? Out of the blue yesterday I played with Swanson for the first time, after playing poker probably 100 times by now.

 

Reverend Swanson

Susan Grimshaw

John Marston

Lenny Summers

Simon Pearson

Uncle

Leopold Strauss

 

Anyone else? I want to play with Dutch and Micah, that would be real awkward. Would that snake let Dutch win? Probably.

On 5/9/2020 at 5:38 PM, DEADWOODZ said:

This is pretty incredible!

 

 

This made me want to build a RDR inspired diorama

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Alexlecj

I just like doing nothing in this game.

 

Traveling at snail pace is the best.

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Cutter De Blanc
16 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

Seeing as you brought it up who can we play Poker with? Out of the blue yesterday I played with Swanson for the first time, after playing poker probably 100 times by now.

 

Reverend Swanson

Susan Grimshaw

John Marston

Lenny Summers

Simon Pearson

Uncle

Leopold Strauss

 

Anyone else? I want to play with Dutch and Micah, that would be real awkward. Would that snake let Dutch win? Probably.

I think that's it. I don't really see Dutch playing any game he might stand a chance of losing

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Petko
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On 5/6/2020 at 8:08 AM, SneakyDeaky said:

I don't quite know what happened next, but suddenly both are shooting at me, but they miss, and a Raider shoots the Gray, and all hell breaks loose between them.

One of my favorite things to do in Rhodes is to make The Grays fight with the law. Of course the prefered option is if they antagonize me first. That way I don't get a wanted level.

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DEADWOODZ

Literally before i hit the hay, i jump on the game and just endlessly stroll through the woods at dusk with the weather set to misty (on pc). Still amazes me to this day on what R* achieved!

 

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Greenape4life

Im A long paragraphs kind of guy, but I think this game made me absolutely speechless. GOAT of gaming for me, no doubt

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Dark Rosewood Varnish
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On 5/12/2020 at 5:59 PM, DEADWOODZ said:

Literally before i hit the hay, i jump on the game and just endlessly stroll through the woods at dusk with the weather set to misty (on pc). Still amazes me to this day on what R* achieved!

 

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Exactly this. I just wished the in game day cycle was slower so these specific parts of the day would last longer. Slowly trotting through the woods in Lemoyne during sunset is truly a majestic experience. RDR2 is one of the few games over the years that's been able to meet and surpass my expectations. 

 

On 5/9/2020 at 5:38 PM, DEADWOODZ said:

This is pretty incredible!

 

 

 

Great video. Interesting scene at 1.10, I've never known NPC's to walk across that bridge.

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Sadie Adler

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ArthurMorganRDR

I love the story, doing a third playthrough right now on PC.

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TheOriginalGunslinger

I love when this musical piece starts playing during the loading screens. It’s my favorite one. The loading screen music alone gets me excited before jumping into my next adventure in this game.

 

 

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Mister Pink
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On 4/9/2020 at 11:28 PM, SneakyDeaky said:

t's awesome you've been able to do a year long plus walkthrough. I'm sure the whole story has likely been spoiled for you, and being a moderator doesn't help, and ME mentioning spoilers in this thread so nonchalantly doesn't help either. lol.

 

For, me personally, I already kind of predicted a lot of it, as a lot of us likely did. The leaked map gave a lot away actually. But, what amazes me about Rockstar's games, is that the replays for me are always much better than the first playthrough. It's like I have no big question I need answered. I have no sunset I'm chasing, I just lose myself in the world and all the little things start to feel important, and the story kind of lingers in the background while I create my own journey through the world....

Sorry I didn't respond to this earlier, I do appreciate your post. But yes, I thought, instead of having the magic 2nd playthrough, that I should try do everything I normally try "fix" in the 2nd playthrough done in the 1st. Does that make sense? I'm definitely going to do a second playthrough and there are some things I'll definitely want to do differently,  although not that much differently. However, I'm excited that my second playthrough should be on the Series X, perhaps in 4K, 60fps. 

 

I didn't really predict anything  because I made a vow to get out of the mapping topic and I abandoned looking at any info that might spoil the game. Basically, I went in to RDR2 on official marketing - which was just a few trailer videos. I did this for Fallout 4 and I'm doing it for Cyberpunk. I think avoiding the spoiling of details and overexposing myself to the games before their release greatly improves the experience. I would love to do this for GTA. 

 

Yesterday I got in a nice marathon 10-hour session. It's a year and a half in, 200+ hours of play and I only just discovered the hermit living in a little pocket of the map. I keep forgetting that half the map of the first game is unlocked at the end. I haven't even played it yet! That's going to be a nice reward. 

 

Mild, vague spoilers ahead. 

 

So, I'm on Chapter 6, and just just rescued Monroe. Man, I had water in my eyes when I met the nun at the station again.  I'm starting to feel genuine emapathy for Arthur. Here is a man who's life hasn't been great. He has a good soul but was dealt a difficult hand in life. He's dealt out death and pain to others but he's also been a great help for many people. It was spoiled for me what happens. And you know what, that's OK. I'm kind of feeling like this is goodbye through the illness. I'm kind of stretching out the last part of the game because I don't want to let go of Arthur.  But on the flipside, I want to see the new/old part of the map. I love how Arthur is so reflective. And when he does an act of kindness, and a person thanks him, he finds it hard to accept the thanks because he knows he's been bad. It is truly a story of redemption. One of the greatest stories I've ever played. I feel so lucky to have a game that speaks to me on so many levels. 

 

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Punkd

now some months have passed since i finished the story of rdr2, i started red dead online after i finished the story, but i never really got used to the online-mode (its so sad R* somehow wont put enough effort into red dead online as they did with gta 5 online, missed opportunity, after playing 200+ hours of the singleplayer-mode i just cant have the same fun while playing online, not to mention the huge amount of bugs/disconnets etc)

 

i am currently going through assassins creed odyssee (great game!), but i think i will soon start the campaign of rdr2 again and get lost in the wild west

some weeks ago i also replayed gta 4, its always nice to replay good games after a longer break

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Playing through the original has now given me a new-found appreciation for how fluently the horses move in this game

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