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RDR 2 Mysterys *SPOILER*

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Cheddarhead7
9 hours ago, Iroquois said:

Anyone else found the person in the treehouse?

The one near MacFarlane's Ranch? Yeah, haven't found a way to get in though.

 

Not even Dynamite worked

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Cutter De Blanc

There apparently is a Vampire in Saint Denis,  he's listed in the credits as Vampire 

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Jason
2 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

There apparently is a Vampire in Saint Denis,  he's listed in the credits as Vampire 

I dunno about him being an actual vampire, but yea. There's a wolfman and a giant too.

 

There's really a ridiculous amount of stuff hidden away and no doubt there's still a lot of stuff people haven't found yet.

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VercettiGuy
13 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

There's really a ridiculous amount of stuff hidden away and no doubt there's still a lot of stuff people haven't found yet.

I played every day, 4 hours for the last 3 weeks and I haven't found any of that stuff.

 

And I'm loving it. It means there are so many things I still get to find, so the game won't get boring for the next year or two.

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Deadman2112

 

..::Edit::..

Nevermind 

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AUScowboy

Wooow, so this game is filled with creepy stuff. I found this cabin by the snake shaped rock mound. It appears to be the house of an old west Dr Frankenstein of sorts. Built himself a manmade mutant/Piggsy looking creature. Here's a video of it and the location

 

 

And then I encountered a S&F mission that seems to be contingent on finding the cursed treasure maps. Has bodily possession and seeming reference to the Lovecraftian Old Ones...

 

https://youtu.be/JjkPgTRM4-U

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SneakyDeaky

I just met the blind soothsayer outside Blackwater while as John during the Epilogue. 

He said there are two strangers I will meet; One is from this world, the other is from another. One is full of hate. As for the other, he's not sure what plans he has for John.

It's obvious the man from another world is the Strange Man from "I know You" but who is the other stranger?

Is he referencing someone from RDR 1 or perhaps a new stranger mission during the Epilogue?

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2 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

I just met the blind soothsayer outside Blackwater while as John during the Epilogue. 

He said there are two strangers I will meet; One is from this world, the other is from another. One is full of hate. As for the other, he's not sure what plans he has for John.

It's obvious the man from another world is the Strange Man from "I know You" but who is the other stranger?

Is he referencing someone from RDR 1 or perhaps a new stranger mission during the Epilogue?

I think the one from "this world" and "full of hate" might be Edgar Ross? At least it sounds like that to me.

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Deadman2112

@SneakyDeaky

 

Yes...

Black hat man: I know you John...

John: Really? Well mister, I don't recall us ever meeting.

Black hat man: Oh I know you, from way back.

 

The black hat is the one from another world. Each time you come across him John asks him what his name is, but he never says.

 

The final time you meet him is outside of John's ranch just before the end of "Redemption".

 

John asks his name again, but once again he doesn't tell him. John then gets frustrated, draws his gun and demanded he tell him by saying something along the lines of...

Don't make me kill you.

To which the black hat man replies..

oh many have tried.

 

Then the black hat man politely and simply turns his back and starts to walk away and says... 

"Oh you'll know me soon enough"

(Or something to that affect) 

John then fires, yet the bullets pass right through him and a moment later he disappears right before John's eyes.

 

The other is Edgar Ross. The one who killed him.

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Xboxeddy

So I was in this shack at the Manzanita trading post in tall trees and under the floorboards was a photo titled Norwegian photo, it was of a man a woman and baby on the back was written UREN! I think this means impure. 

 

I then checked the chimney and found a newspaper article written in a foreign language it wouldn't give me the option to press X to read and the font was pretty poor on the clipping. 

 

Anyove else found this?

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SneakyDeaky
14 minutes ago, Xboxeddy said:

So I was in this shack at the Manzanita trading post in tall trees and under the floorboards was a photo titled Norwegian photo, it was of a man a woman and baby on the back was written UREN! I think this means impure. 

 

I then checked the chimney and found a newspaper article written in a foreign language it wouldn't give me the option to press X to read and the font was pretty poor on the clipping. 

 

Anyove else found this?

I found the picture earlier during my first outing to that region. Never found the newspaper though, good find. I found another picture under another floorboard in a completely different location about a week ago. I wonder if there is any connection. My 2nd playthrough of this game is going to be LONG. I am going to search every nook and cranny this time.

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Xboxeddy
1 hour ago, SneakyDeaky said:

I found the picture earlier during my first outing to that region. Never found the newspaper though, good find. I found another picture under another floorboard in a completely different location about a week ago. I wonder if there is any connection. My 2nd playthrough of this game is going to be LONG. I am going to search every nook and cranny this time.

I've only been able to find one video on YouTube and nothing really "on the line"

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silly_nate
8 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

It's obvious the man from another world is the Strange Man from "I know You" but who is the other stranger?

Abraham Reyes

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DEADWOODZ
6 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

I found the picture earlier during my first outing to that region. Never found the newspaper though, good find. I found another picture under another floorboard in a completely different location about a week ago. I wonder if there is any connection. My 2nd playthrough of this game is going to be LONG. I am going to search every nook and cranny this time.

Funny enough, i only found the the photo...guess i'll be going back there.

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MarlboroMan1995
15 hours ago, SneakyDeaky said:

I just met the blind soothsayer outside Blackwater while as John during the Epilogue. 

He said there are two strangers I will meet; One is from this world, the other is from another. One is full of hate. As for the other, he's not sure what plans he has for John.

It's obvious the man from another world is the Strange Man from "I know You" but who is the other stranger?

Is he referencing someone from RDR 1 or perhaps a new stranger mission during the Epilogue?

Given he is full of hate I would assume Herbert moon. 

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Deadman2112
On 11/14/2018 at 11:24 PM, MarlboroMan1995 said:

Given he is full of hate I would assume Herbert moon. 

Lol no.

 

He is referring to...

Edgar Ross.

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The government man who set John on the path of hunting down his old gang, and also kills John at the end of RedDead Redemption

 

http://reddead.wikia.com/wiki/Edgar_Ross

 

 

 

The other man he is referring to is simply known as...

"The Mysterious Black Hat Man"

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He even sets John on a side mission called "I Know You" in Redemption.

 

http://reddead.wikia.com/wiki/Strange_Man

 

I personally suspect the Black Hat Man is one of two people in RDR2 based on the clues I have been on the path of but I still need more to put it together. I'll post more when and if I find them. Anyway these are my top two picks at the moment...

 

 


Either he is...

Josiah Trelawne
Also know as Giuseppe Muldon
(But Josiah might be the missing Gavin. Read his boi and you'll see why I suspect this. However, him being an English Man may all be an act. )
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http://reddead.wikia.com/wiki/Josiah_Trelawny

Or the Black Hat man could be...

Edmund Lowry Jr

The Serial Killer in RDR2
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http://reddead.wikia.com/wiki/Edmund_Lowry_Jr.

 

I'm not sure which of the two he is, but I'm hunting the clues to figure it out.

 

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Deadman2112

Also this might be helpful for folks who are not up on the back story...

 

Here is one of the better brake downs of the Redemption story lines...

 

 

The thing I think he gets wrong in his review is...

 

Bill and John were never really friend. Gang members yes, but friends would be a stretch. Although the members of the gang seam to have a different interpretation of friendship then what I personally would consider a friend. So I may be wrong in that.

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MarlboroMan1995

@Deadman2112 I was about to disagree with it being Ross instead of Herbert and show you why. But then I read “he’s not for sure what plans the other guy has for John”. So yeah, your right. No doubt about it being Ross!

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SneakyDeaky

Nothing big, but I found this "mysterious writing" on the wall in Blackwater and IDK if it's a point of interest or what, but it gets marked in your journal.

https://streamable.com/jmmxs
 

Spoiler

g1nloa7


The "I wonder who lived in this strange house" entry is regarding something else.

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Deadman2112

Two things to get at with this post.

Sorry if it's a bit long but have a lot of ground to cover...

 

First...

The strange man (See post above)

Still looking into this. Coud be either or neither lol.

 

Although I could be wrong about the serial killer...

...but the voce is so different. However game makers often replace voice actors all the time especially minors roles.

So maybe?

 

Also, he does say as you bring him to jail...

"You will remember my name."

 

...maybe he's just a fan of the strange mans work? Like some "crazy guy" trying to emulate him?

 

...or perhaps he was somehow possessed by the strange man?

Maybe that would be a reason he would say something like that?

 

This could even tie into the pagan ritual and the pentagram found in the game.

...possibly even the events that took place at the Indian Reservation.

 

As of now, I've hit a brick wall so, I don't know...

 

 

 

Ok. The next thing I wanted to talk about is...

Not what I was expecting to find.

The quote from GTAV...

Receive an EE from our ancestors ...comes to mind regarding this subject.

 

So, at this point I'm sure most, if not all of you have seen the speculations regarding the links between GTAV's cult the Epsilon Program, and several things found in this game.

 

I have to admit, at first I was adamantly opposed to this idea, but the links may even go further then you think.

 

For those who don't like this idea, stick aground. You may find you are wrong.

 

So I'm just going to jump right into it...

Dutch is constantly reading and quoting a book (found just outside of his tent at base camp in chapter 2) that can be read called "The American Eden" and another called "American Inferno" (found in his tent. Same chapter) by Evelyn Miller. 

 

(Side note: funny the inferno is a side quest at the end of the game. He even mentioned flying like an egal, something the Epsilon Program talks about)

 

Dutch quots the books often and little clues are given here and there.

 

In one book you can almost hear the words of the Epsilon program but different. As if they took their ideology from this book as the base of their religion.

 

And as intriguing as that idea may be...

 

It's looking like his books didn't spawn one group

...they spawned two.

 

A lot like how the Bible is one book but several ideologies or theologies have spawned off of it.

 

I say that because of this...

 

The video starts off with Dutch reading a passage from one of the books found in the video below...

At the end of the video I show what popped into my head when he said it.

 

 

One thing that definitely stands out...

Dutch seems to have a philosophy that appears to be more aligned with the altruist cult rather then the Epsilon program.

 

So the big question in my mind is...

Did Dutch or maybe just one of these books create the altruist cult?

...or at the very least plant the seeds that would later grow into it?

 

The altruist, just like Dutch also retreated to the mountains simply to avoid interaction with anyone who didn't share their beliefs. 

Yet one of the books say do not become a hermit and hide yourself away.

 

If you listen closely to their interactions, Dutch is constantly at odds with Lenny and his youthful ideas.

...Much like how the altruist cult dislikes the youth for their ideas.

 

I'd like to know what you folks think...

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MCMXCII

So uh... the mysterious stranger is in RDR2. I'm pretty sure he is death. His f*cking cabin that you find in the woods is freaky as sh*t. When I found this video about him being in the game, I got chills.

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Deadman2112
1 hour ago, Jon Jon said:

So uh... the mysterious stranger is in RDR2. I'm pretty sure he is death. His f*cking cabin that you find in the woods is freaky as sh*t. When I found this video about him being in the game, I got chills.

That reminds me

I'm sure you and others have noticed when riding along you often find camp sites being raided by the hill-folk.

 

Funny thing is at each of them there is an easel tipped over on the ground.

I know the strange man has paintings that change over time.

 

I'm starting to think that the hill-folk are just looting the site and the two dead people are victims of the strange man...

Edited by Deadman2112

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Boozey St John

I was doing some exploring in Ambarino, there's a train tunnel located right on Cattail Pond. 

 

Once you enter the tunnel, in huge white letters on the left side says 

"I SEEK AND I FIND"

 

Can't examine it, but I took screenshots of it on my PS4... Don't know how to post them on here using mobile.

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silly_nate

^ I think that’s a cheat but I’m not too sure. 

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Cutter De Blanc
1 hour ago, silly_nate said:

^ I think that’s a cheat but I’m not too sure. 

It is.

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Deadman2112

Edit

N/M

I'll just keep this to myself 

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Deadman2112

Edit

This post was a complete disaster lol

Thank you cutter for pointing that out.

 

I've fixed it and will be on the next page.

Edited by Deadman2112

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Cutter De Blanc

It's scorer not sorcerer 

 

"When the great Scorer comes

 To mark against your name

It doesn't matter if you win or lose

It's how you play the game"

 

Or something like that.  But yeah scorer, as in a guy who keeps score

Edited by Cutter De Blanc

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