Next DLC Speculation Thread Mk VII

[Ukranium911]

48 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

R* like to make a song and dance about their updates to GTA Online, but we've never had something like what the Casino has had before were there are in-game updates prior to an update. The closest we've had to any pre-update buildup was The Guest List last year, and even then, that was more just a bunch of login bonuses.

 

Given the last couple of weeks/months surrounding the topic of monetization in gaming drawing attention from the US Government, have we considered the idea that R* might not focus this update so much on the Casino opening up and letting us gamble potentially GTA$ including Shark Card money, but more on the (possible) fact they're making a huge sandbox rebalancing after updating the feedback system?

People’s need to stop with this QOL nonsense.  They put updates in the game to sell shark cards.  “We made the game play better, fixed errors” doesn’t sell shark cards.  Why is this so hard for some to understand?

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

15 minutes ago, Ukranium911 said:

People’s need to stop with this QOL nonsense.  They put updates in the game to sell shark cards.  “We made the game play better, fixed errors” doesn’t sell shark cards.  Why is this so hard for some to understand?

What are you on about? They brought enough QoL updates over the past years. What game are you playing? And ofcourse does QoL sell sharkcards. Who would buy in-game currency on a game that's not optimized via little QoL updates? All of those little things do add up to complete an entirely playable game.

How do you think a 6/7 year old game like GTAO still brings in millions of dollars? That's right, Updates and QoL changes.

Edited June 10, 2019 by MrARCO

[fire_and_blood]

3 minutes ago, Ukranium911 said:

People’s need to stop with this QOL nonsense.  They put updates in the game to sell shark cards.  “We made the game play better, fixed errors” doesn’t sell shark cards.  Why is this so hard for some to understand?

If you make updates to sell sharkcards only, you won’t have any players left after the third update. Mixing both is the right formula imo. 

 

+ they do QOL improvements each updates (small or big, it’s still a fact). 

[Agent 14]

Just now, fire_and_blood said:

If you make updates to sell sharkcards only, you won’t have any players left after the third update. Mixing both is the right formula imo. 

 

+ they do QOL improvements each updates (small or big, it’s still a fact). 

"We've nerfed the auto shotguns and explosive rounds due to being to powerful to prevent potential griefing against players but don't mind us adding two different variations of the oppressor the khanjali a deluxo a Batman car a James Bond car the lazer the Hydra and every other griefing tool as long we make some money"

[Lonely-Martin]

14 minutes ago, Ukranium911 said:

People’s need to stop with this QOL nonsense.  They put updates in the game to sell shark cards.  “We made the game play better, fixed errors” doesn’t sell shark cards.  Why is this so hard for some to understand?

Of course it does, lol. 

 

If a player logs on and isn't sure yet, like most noobs could easily be with the overwhelming amount of content to a new player here, they should start small if they do buy cards to minimise losses if they end up disliking it.

 

If they like what they see, they buy more potentially. If the game is a broken mess and they quit, no more cards can be sold to that customer.

 

And an old game at that needs more care than a new one if to keep up and appeal to today's market too.

Edited June 10, 2019 by Lonely-Martin
Autospell fail

[DomM]

15 minutes ago, Ukranium911 said:

People’s need to stop with this QOL nonsense.  They put updates in the game to sell shark cards.  “We made the game play better, fixed errors” doesn’t sell shark cards.  Why is this so hard for some to understand?

This couldn’t be further from being right, I hate when people take the high ground and say “why is this hard for people to understand” as if people are lacking common sense when they are in fact wrong 

Also I can guarantee you there will be QOL stuff in the next update so let’s end that there 

[Gat_2011]

Sweet dreams from a lunatic: we'll bet $GTA at casino and eventually/hopefully get paid/rewarded with AP points

[Pedinhuh]

1 hour ago, Ukranium911 said:

People’s need to stop with this QOL nonsense.  They put updates in the game to sell shark cards.  “We made the game play better, fixed errors” doesn’t sell shark cards.  Why is this so hard for some to understand?

I love these random guys who comes out of nowhere and simply says that we are all wrong, they look so cute thinking they're right.

Edited June 10, 2019 by Pedinhuh

[Lonely-Martin]

3 minutes ago, Gat_2011 said:

Sweet dreams from a lunatic: we'll bet $GTA at casino and eventually/hopefully get paid/rewarded with AP points

I'd rather the whole system get a rework but don't foresee it, but adding ways to get AP quicker is gonna be an easy positive for me.  

[Agent 14]

 what is QQL?

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

Just now, Agent 14 said:

 what is QQL?

QoL. Quality of Life.

[Ukranium911]

18 minutes ago, fire_and_blood said:

If you make updates to sell sharkcards only, you won’t have any players left after the third update. Mixing both is the right formula imo. 

 

+ they do QOL improvements each updates (small or big, it’s still a fact). 

This makes sense.  Keep in mind every update includes bug fixes.  So RS does do both.  But you will never see update centered around QOL.  What sells cards are: 1) new things to buy; 2) new activities to do (often behind paywalls).  We may be saying same thing.

Edited June 10, 2019 by Ukranium911

[Banshee513]

2 minutes ago, Agent 14 said:

 what is QQL?

Quality of life

[Lonely-Martin]

4 minutes ago, Agent 14 said:

 what is QQL?

QoL? Quality of life.

 

Just tweaks to make things more gamer friendly. Balance mainly is one area that's suffered with each new more powerful/flexible toy.

 

With R* adding a new feed back site, this is the first DLC since and many of us are hoping R* does a little more than remove glitched outfits or fix money glitches. 

Edited June 10, 2019 by Lonely-Martin
LOL, I thought I'd be ninja'd when more replies popped up as I typed. Gotta love the speculation thread when it's buzzing!

[Zak Ras]

6 minutes ago, Agent 14 said:

 what is QQL?

Quality of Life.

 

Stuff like;

Saved Outfits

Weapon Locker

Mental State Colouring

Vehicle Icons

Assistant -> Retrieve Vehicle from Impound

The Nightclub always being a single vehicle sale.

Edited June 10, 2019 by Zak Ras

[kenmy13999]

1 minute ago, Lonely-Martin said:

 R* does a little more than remove glitched outfits or fix money glitches. 

They don't seem to like merge glitches either, harmful and fun glitches

[Agent 14]

Thank you all for answering my question. 

 

I understand a little bit better now xD I was lost wondering what that acronym meant. 

 

 

 

I do hope they don't fix the CEO office telescope glitch as messing around adding hats glasses and masks to the character is harmless. 

 

If they should fix something it should be god mode and money glitches and glitches that makes the game unplayable.

 

Also nerf the damned jets.

Edited June 10, 2019 by Agent 14

[Guest Billy Russo]

I might return to this game again if they actually open up the Casino finally. It should have been done years ago. Will give me a reason to waste all my money. 

[fire_and_blood]

7 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

QoL? Quality of life.

 

Just tweaks to make things more gamer friendly. Balance mainly is one area that's suffered with each new more powerful/flexible toy.

 

With R* adding a new feed back site, this is the first DLC since and many of us are hoping R* does a little more than remove glitched outfits or fix money glitches. 

Anyone knows what would be the top feedback’s requests from the community? 

 

I wonder what comes top in terms of requests on the Gta’s feedback, could give us an idea of what to expect I guess (if they do listen to us this time) 

[TermedSaturn942]

1 minute ago, Billy Russo said:

I might return to this game again if they actually open up the Casino finally. It should have been done years ago. Will give me a reason to waste all my money. 

that is if they actually add gambling. god i hope i get me some slots. i wanna gamble without any skill or brains required.

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

3 minutes ago, Agent 14 said:

I do hope they don't fix the CEO office telescope glitch as messing around adding hats glasses and masks to the character is harmless. 

 

Dont sweat it. That one is in the game from the very beginning. 

[Lonely-Martin]

5 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

They don't seem to like merge glitches either, harmful and fun glitches

I don't think any outfit glitch has ever hampered a job I'm on at all TBH. I don't get why they don't add many to the stores or as VIP options in the inventory when a CEO/biker. 

 

Seems to tick every box. Popular, requested, stops people looking up how elsewhere (exposing them to more) and more importantly for R*, would sell well, possibly increasing the odd card sale. (Though just the one outfit is less likely to be considered a card boom, lol).

[Agent 14]

Just now, MrARCO said:

Dont sweat it. That one is in the game from the very beginning. 

Yeah but rockstar has a track record of being fun gestapos. Patching harmless glitches like the launch into the air glitch and deleting harmless outfits like the cops and garbage men uniforms we were able to copy from when adversary modes were first introduced.

[TermedSaturn942]

i'm surprised at the fact that almost all ancient launch glitches are all still here, i think.

[Lonely-Martin]

5 minutes ago, Agent 14 said:

I understand a little bit better now xD I was lost wondering what that acronym meant. 

This place is great fun for that, lol.

 

EWO, DDH, AW, SASSAASSAAASASSS or whatever last year's filler DLC (<-- another one) was. Good times.

[Agent 14]

3 minutes ago, TermedSaturn942 said:

i'm surprised at the fact that almost all ancient launch glitches are all still here, i think.

Nah I've tried the tattoo shop launch glitch years ago and it was patched.

 

 

And I think (not sure) they patched the creator mode glitch that had you dupe birds so you can try to get the IAA badges.

Edited June 10, 2019 by Agent 14

[Thomas The Dank Engine]

5 minutes ago, Agent 14 said:

Yeah but rockstar has a track record of being fun gestapos. Patching harmless glitches like the launch into the air glitch and deleting harmless outfits like the cops and garbage men uniforms we were able to copy from when adversary modes were first introduced.

They dont fix those glitches because "F you, players". They patch those glitches because it brings stability issues to the server. Clipping our of bounds with tanks can cause mayor lagg to the people surrounding the player. If a glitch is totally harmless against players or the server then R* could care less. A lot of wallbreaches still exist, even when they included deathbarriers. 

The beach launch glitch with the boathouse and the tank still exists btw.

Edited June 10, 2019 by MrARCO

[Agent 14]

4 minutes ago, MrARCO said:

They dont fix those glitches because "F you, players". They patch those glitches because it brings stability issues to the server. Clipping our of bounds with tanks can cause mayor lagg to the people surrounding the player. If a glitch is totally harmless against players or the server then R* could care less. A lot of wallbreaches still exist, even when they included deathbarriers. 

Wall breach should definitely be patched. Because people use them for the wrong reasons. While I can agree with you that launch glitch can bring destabilization to the game. Most people who tried these glitches did them on private lobbies with friends who were also doing them. I understand why they patched it. But some people miss the days where we could just go in private lobbies and have fun with glitches like the launch one.

[kenmy13999]

3 minutes ago, MrARCO said:

. If a glitch is totally harmless against players or the server then R* could care less.

 

Pretty sure my garbage man outfit were pretty harmless against both players and server, same with my paramedic outfit, have a lot more but I think you get my point

[RaigeGames]

45 minutes ago, Ukranium911 said:

People’s need to stop with this QOL nonsense.  They put updates in the game to sell shark cards.  “We made the game play better, fixed errors” doesn’t sell shark cards.  Why is this so hard for some to understand?

 

21 minutes ago, Ukranium911 said:

This makes sense.  Keep in mind every update includes bug fixes.  So RS does do both.  But you will never see update centered around QOL.  What sells cards are: 1) new things to buy; 2) new activities to do (often behind paywalls).  We may be saying same thing.

Belittling other players because you think you're always right is not fruitful discussion.

 

As everyone else has said, QoL changes absolutely sell shark cards. Who is going to keep playing a game that is frustrating to play? Last update they shortened the cooldown time for calling your personal vehicle and people went nuts over the change because it improved gameplay for a lot of people.

 

Secondly, no one that I've seen is asking for an update just centered around QoL updates, they're asking for content updates with accompanying QoL changes. Is that so wrong to ask for improvements to the game?